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Ron in Regina

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Scrum cancelled due to "security concerns"....CBC was late getting in line again?
Rebel and CBC had it out.
Seems CBC thinks only reporters on the liberal payroll should be allowed to ask questions.
(YouTube & Canada election 2025: The 3 biggest takeaways from the English language debate)

English debate media scum was cancelled over security reasons…that law enforcement & national security sources were unaware of? That’s…curious.
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Cancelled over the security of what? The head of the Leaders' Debates Commission cancelled a planned question-and-answer session between journalists (=CBC specifically) and party leaders scheduled to take place after Thursday's English-language debate, following heated exchanges between reporters (again, CBC specifically) and representatives of the right-wing media group Rebel News. Notice they don’t point out a bias, implied or otherwise, for the CBC?

The commission's executive director Michel Cormier also said Thursday he was not aware that Rebel News had registered as an official third party in the federal election when the commission gave the group more opportunities to question leaders following Wednesday's French debate than most mainstream outlets.

"I'm sorry to announce there will be no scrum tonight with the leaders, because we don't feel that we can actually guarantee a proper environment for this activity," Cormier told reporters immediately after Thursday's debate.

He refused to explain the decision.
 

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(YouTube & Canada election 2025: The 3 biggest takeaways from the English language debate)

English debate media scum was cancelled over security reasons…that law enforcement & national security sources were unaware of? That’s…curious.
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Cancelled over the security of what? The head of the Leaders' Debates Commission cancelled a planned question-and-answer session between journalists (=CBC specifically) and party leaders scheduled to take place after Thursday's English-language debate, following heated exchanges between reporters (again, CBC specifically) and representatives of the right-wing media group Rebel News. Notice they don’t point out a bias, implied or otherwise, for the CBC?

The commission's executive director Michel Cormier also said Thursday he was not aware that Rebel News had registered as an official third party in the federal election when the commission gave the group more opportunities to question leaders following Wednesday's French debate than most mainstream outlets.

"I'm sorry to announce there will be no scrum tonight with the leaders, because we don't feel that we can actually guarantee a proper environment for this activity," Cormier told reporters immediately after Thursday's debate.

He refused to explain the decision.
Radical Eco-Fascists
 

Ron in Regina

"Voice of the West" Party
Apr 9, 2008
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Carnage not being asked any important questions. AKA liberal media protecting their paycheques and CBC protecting its welfare.
The Green party — which the commission disinvited from the debates on Wednesday — posted on social media that something "doesn't add up" because Greens were silenced while Rebel News and True North got press credentials?

I didn’t realize that the Green Party was also butt hurt over not being recognized as an accredited press outlet either.

The commission said it dropped the Green party from the debates because it made a “strategic” (= bullshit & manipulative towards….) decision not to run candidates in every riding after initially telling the commission it would.

Cormier told CBC the Green party had "cooked the books" by telling the commission it intended to run candidates in the vast majority of ridings while telling media that it chose not to run candidates in some ridings to avoid splitting the vote.
Oh well…at least the CBC got to report on this ‘cuz queuing up to actually ask questions after the debate was for peasant's and peons, & not state funded non-independent media outlets.

Established in 2018 (so under who’s watch?), the Leaders’ Debate Commission has three jobs: Help the major broadcasters and parties agree on a format; set eligibility for the participating leaders; and accredited media wishing to cover the event and ask questions of the Leaders afterwards.
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If, as the commission points out, debates are important for reasons of public interest, then so, too, are scrums. They’re an opportunity for reporters to ask questions which may not have been asked, or sufficiently answered, during the debate. Hearing these answers can help Canadians decide how to vote.

This scrum was especially important, given that it’s been particularly difficult this election campaign to get answers from Liberal Leader Mark Carney who’s paused his campaign a number of times, leading to both Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and Bloc Québécois Leader Yves François Blanchet to accuse him of hiding. You cannot hide during a scrum, unless you’re Jagmeet Singh I guess.
There’s a good chance the Leaders’ Debate Commission cancelled the scrums because after the French debate the night before they received backlash from traditional journalists and outlets for the decision to accredit several alternative media journalists and really had no way to suddenly disallow them from participating the second night during the English debate….to protect whom from what again?

One element of debate organization that remained in the purview of the Commission was media accreditation. The 2019 debates created interest from journalists and media organizations interested in covering the events. The Commission received more than 200 requests for accreditation.

In its desire to provide an environment conducive to professionally responsible coverage, the Commission consulted with the Parliamentary Press Gallery, and ultimately decided to limit accreditations to professional journalistic organizations.

Four organizations were turned down because the Commission concluded they were involved in political activism. Two of the four organizations challenged the decision in Federal Court.

They obtained an injunction requiring the Commission to allow them to cover the debates and press availabilities of the leaders immediately following the debates. The court ruled on an interim basis that, among other things, the Commission did not follow the rules of procedural fairness in respect of its denial of accreditation and ordered the Accreditation of the two media outlets. As at the date of this report, the application for judicial review remains before the Federal Court.
Coming at the alternative media outlets in 2019 with the charge of being politically-activist probably wasn’t a good idea.

The claim could be made that all outlets are to some extent. It’s also not clear how the CAJ guidelines disqualify these alternative media sites. Because of this, it is likely the Federal Court will continually weigh in favour of the right for these outlets to ask questions at key debates, whether the CBC like them or their questions or not.
 
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Ron in Regina

"Voice of the West" Party
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Scrum cancelled due to "security concerns"....CBC was late getting in line again?
Rebel and CBC had it out.
English debate media scum was cancelled over security reasons…that law enforcement & national security sources were unaware of? That’s…curious.
This is very curious when you get to watch the video below, watching the police in the background watching this happen, & doing nothing. Very curious.
(YouTube & What REALLY Happened Outside the Leaders’ Debate? (CTV Caught Lying!))

Or, as CTV reported: The leader scrums that had been scheduled for after Thursday’s English-language debate were cancelled due to what sources were told were security concerns.

CTV News first reported the development while the debate was underway. Leaders’ Debates Commission executive director Michel Cormier later confirmed it, telling reporters the organizers don’t feel they “can actually guarantee a proper environment for this activity.” (??)

Cormier did not elaborate further or answer any questions from journalists.

CTV News senior political correspondent Mike Le Couteur said there were Montreal police on scene and other increased security measures in place.

Following the commission’s decision, Le Couteur said he saw right-wing media personalities arguing with organizers.

Le Couteur told CTV’s Power Play host Vassy Kapelos a number of them were seemingly “trying to grandstand” in the media centre, insisting they had a right to ask questions of the politicians and calling the system undemocratic, despite concerns that those same outlets had monopolized the question-and-answer period after Wednesday’s French-language debate….so some butt-hurt legacy media.

“What journalists do is they line up to wait for a question — one English, one French,” Le Couteur explained. “A number of those so-called reporters essentially tried to stack the deck and be there in line well ahead of the finish of the debate, so about 20 to 30 minutes ahead of it.”😳…so, nobody else thought to do that then?

In an interview earlier on Thursday, Cormier told Kapelos the debate-organizing body accredited the media sources to avoid a lawsuit.

“We lost (to Rebel News) twice in court,” Cormier told Kapelos ahead of the English-language debate. “We declined their accreditation request, both in 2019 and 2021, they went to court, and the court said, ‘You have no business in deciding what’s a journalist, you have to let them in.’”😂

“So, we had a back and forth through lawyers on this, and finally we decided that we couldn’t chance another defeat in court, which was just about certain because of the precedent,” Cormier also said.
Watching the law enforcement non-reaction and in turn non-response to that one dude slapping the other guys phone out of his hands…twice…is curious, as is the CBC Rosemary Barton spin not knowing that video of this exists.😅
You can start about the 10 minute mark, & it’s funny if you actually watch the video about first.
(YouTube & Complete CBC MELTDOWN—Watch the Room Go DEAD SILENT After Poilievre Leaves Carney STUNNED)
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Thankfully, in Canada we have the CBC as an unbiased state funded mouthpiece broadcaster to protect us from something something Trump, etc..
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Etc…& if you think that’s crazy the 10-15 minute stretch, wait till you see what happens at the 15 minute mark.😯
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Ron in Regina

"Voice of the West" Party
Apr 9, 2008
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Regina, Saskatchewan
Well, at this point, we are a week and a day away from the Canadian Federal election, & this is what the poll aggregate (338) is predicting:
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I can’t even use antidotal insight, as I’m in one of those two blue areas on the national map, so what I’m seeing personally is consistent with what’s being shown for Saskatchewan…but what I’m hearing from our 25-ish drivers & leased operators isn’t voting for red above…but then again even though they come from five different provinces, they are all on the same line of work…so there’s a parallel there, etc…
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Ron in Regina

"Voice of the West" Party
Apr 9, 2008
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Regina, Saskatchewan
Too late for this dude to throw his hat in the ring for Canadian PM, but I hear a vacancy opened up at the Vatican.
 

Ron in Regina

"Voice of the West" Party
Apr 9, 2008
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Regina, Saskatchewan
Both the Liberals and NDP released their costed election commitments over the weekend on Easter Sunday, ‘cuz Easter Sunday, making the Conservatives the final major federal party to do so.
Speaking Monday at a housing announcement in Toronto, Poilievre took aim at the spending plan promised by Liberal Leader Mark Carney, saying it shows no departure from the fiscal handling seen under former prime minister Justin Trudeau. He also confirmed he would be releasing his party’s platform “for all eyes to see” on Tuesday, “which will bring change to Canada.”

In terms of campaign commitments, Poilievre has to find a way to pay for promises such as an income tax cut that once fully implemented, would cost $14 billion a year.

While the Liberals and NDP attack Conservatives for seeking to do so through cuts to social programs like dental and pharmacare, Poilievre pledged this election to keep those programs in place, but instead slash spending on government consultants as well as foreign aid.