Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

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Avro

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Seeing as you only have evidence of warming but no evidence of causation perhaps you should enlighten us oh anointed one before casting us to the stake to be burned for crimes against um... the church of terribly piss poor science.. :roll:

You're a big boy and know how to use a computer, find out for yourself.

Quite frankly I'm a little a tired of replying to this kindergarden argument of "there aren't any SUV's on Mars, why is it warming?"
 

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You're a big boy and know how to use a computer, find out for yourself.

I have and I posted what I found here already. Walter has been doing a great job in tearing you a new one for your "green religion."

Quite frankly I'm a little a tired of replying to this kindergarden argument of "there aren't any SUV's on Mars, why is it warming?"

I don't doubt it - since YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE!! Lol :lol:



But don't let that challenge your "faith" you just have to believe in warming!
 

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I have and I posted what I found here already. Walter has been doing a great job in tearing you a new one for your "green religion."



I don't doubt it - since YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE!! Lol :lol:



But don't let that challenge your "faith" you just have to believe in warming!

Walter has done no such thing, he simply cuts and pastes and then I do the same debunking what he posted or exposing the author for what they are, shills for the carbon industry.

You know how to use google, have a peak or be blind.

If you don't buy into climate change, which is fine, surely you want to do something about polution, something you can actually see.
 

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Walter has done no such thing, he simply cuts and pastes and then I do the same debunking what he posted or exposing the author for what they are, shills for the carbon industry.

So what? The other arguments are coming from hippies and babyboomers who see this as their one last chance to f**k up the next generation before dying.

You know how to use google, have a peak or be blind.

As I said already, I did and I found that carbon as cause is BS. There is no evidence only speculation. The actual evidence shows carbon can't be the culprit!

If you don't buy into climate change, which is fine, surely you want to do something about polution, something you can actually see.

Oh yeah, I know global warming is real just like I know global cooling is real. Like mars is known to be a "living planet" so is earth and these are cycles the earth goes through just like mars does. I think what the green clerics don't like is that there isn't anything they can do about it. They are more afraid of nature than I am!

So ride a bicycle if you want but I happen to know it's a complete waste of time. Just like recycling is just plain BS.
 

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So what? The other arguments are coming from hippies and babyboomers who see this as their one last chance to f**k up the next generation before dying.



As I said already, I did and I found that carbon as cause is BS. There is no evidence only speculation. The actual evidence shows carbon can't be the culprit!



Oh yeah, I know global warming is real just like I know global cooling is real. Like mars is known to be a "living planet" so is earth and these are cycles the earth goes through just like mars does. I think what the green clerics don't like is that there isn't anything they can do about it. They are more afraid of nature than I am!

So ride a bicycle if you want but I happen to know it's a complete waste of time. Just like recycling is just plain BS.

So what? You said he was owning me when he did no such thing. Making things up eh?:lol:

Carbon isn't the cause of Marsian warming but it is here.

You know? Wow, I'd like to read your papers and thesis to prove this, perhaps you will get the Nobel when you publish it. I don't know for sure that man has created climate change but the eveidence suggests it. Plus, in the end any action to curb global warming will reduce pollutuion so it's a win win.

What have I done? I'm having solar panels fitted onto my cottage next year and two wind turbines places on my property up north as well as a small damn in a creek next to the cottage. At home I am have geo thermol heating and cooling system that only needs power for a pump and fan partially powered by solar energy. Even my lawn mower and whipper sniper is charged by solar power from the shed roof. My wife drives a prius and I am currently looking at getting a hybrid SUV but may wait to see where hydrogen technology goes.
 

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Btw, whats wrong with doing something about pllution in general?

Especially in large urban centers.
 

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Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla

I don't know for sure that man has created climate change but the eveidence suggests it.

bla bla bla bla

That's the whole point. No evidence suggests it. The models don't work. The carbon in the air is increasing with temperature or rather was, but now we're going into a cooling period, so carbon is going to go up and the temperature is going to go down - oops! On top of that no models using carbon as the reason for global warming work. THEY DON'T WORK!!!

I can't write a theses because I don't know what is causing it but I do know what isn't: CARBON!!!!!
 

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That's the whole point. No evidence suggests it. The models don't work. The carbon in the air is increasing with temperature or rather was, but now we're going into a cooling period, so carbon is going to go up and the temperature is going to go down - oops! On top of that no models using carbon as the reason for global warming work. THEY DON'T WORK!!!

I can't write a theses because I don't know what is causing it but I do know what isn't: CARBON!!!!!

Okay, I can't change what you think at all.

But it is.
 

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Btw, whats wrong with doing something about pllution in general?

There is plenty wrong with burdening our economy with this BS while China and India keep screwing us and don't do anything about pollution!!!

I'm all for helping the environment but not while turning Canada into a third world country!
 

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Okay, I can't change what you think at all.

But it is.

You believe it is? Where's your evidence?

I don't mean correlated data or pictures of bears on little islands of ice. I mean real honest to god evidence. You know, the sort that science used to be famous for?
 

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You believe it is? Where's your evidence?

I don't mean correlated data or pictures of bears on little islands of ice. I mean real honest to god evidence. You know, the sort that science used to be famous for?

I once thought as you and poked through blogs and web sites searching for evidence to counter anything Gore or any other person was trying to say about climate change. I took my arguments to the wrong person, my sister, she is a geophysicist and has close friends and peers who have studied climate. Real scientists doing real lab work not some carbon industry shill or right wing blogger who thinks the greens are coming for his Hummer. She took me the lab and introduced me to her colleages and we had a discussion, one in which I thought I could win, I was wrong. I believe, as a layperson that anthropogenic climate change is real and we must act. Even if it isn't real, the steps taken to attack it would reduced pollution, so in the end it's a win.

I don't know about you but I like clean air and water.
 

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That's the whole point. No evidence suggests it. The models don't work. The carbon in the air is increasing with temperature or rather was, but now we're going into a cooling period, so carbon is going to go up and the temperature is going to go down - oops! On top of that no models using carbon as the reason for global warming work. THEY DON'T WORK!!!

I can't write a theses because I don't know what is causing it but I do know what isn't: CARBON!!!!!


Ok, so Mars and Earth are both warming.

So what is the same on both of them that is causing them to both warm? It isn't the sun, because the ratios are wrong.

So enlighten us oh debunker. This argument of yours has been debunked before in this thread, but then you bring it up again.
 

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I know I'm still waiting for his proof, if he has any of it.

I'm not the one with the bogus theory - you are - you prove your theory.

My theory is well established. Weather patterns move in cycles. Some long some short. Read a book.

So far all GW conspiracy theorists have is that carbon is causing something that it has been proved is impossible for it to cause.
 
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Ok, so Mars and Earth are both warming.

So what is the same on both of them that is causing them to both warm? It isn't the sun, because the ratios are wrong.

So enlighten us oh debunker. This argument of yours has been debunked before in this thread, but then you bring it up again.

Look, just because the sun isn't causing GW doesn't mean that carbon is. You can't just pick something to blame this on.

This isn't an issue for the court of public opinion this is reality. You can't bully your way into correctness here. You have to prove it and so far you haven't and can't.

No one gives a flying **** what GW conspiracy nuts "think." The evidence is in and this whole warming thing has happened before, it is going to happen again and carbon has jack **** to do with it.
 

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Look, just because the sun isn't causing GW doesn't mean that carbon is. You can't just pick something to blame this on.

This isn't an issue for the court of public opinion this is reality. You can't bully your way into correctness here. You have to prove it and so far you haven't and can't.

No one gives a flying **** what GW conspiracy nuts "think." The evidence is in and this whole warming thing has happened before, it is going to happen again and carbon has jack **** to do with it.

....and you have proved something?

Nope......not yet.
 
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