Nationalize Canadian oil reserves!!!!

coldstream

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A model for Canadian Energy resources could be the Norwegian State Oil Company, which owns all the oil resources of the country, and is also responsible for refining and distributing it to the retail level. Canada should be energy self sufficient in energy, and should have pipelines that supply the entire country with energy. Not that i think that the rabid free marketeers in our federal government (both Conservative and Liberal) have the vision for that.

Nor do our present leaders have the courage or character to separate themselves from their American puppet masters, to whom they grovel shamelessly. If the Albertans threaten to let the country freeze in the dark again for implementing a propietary national energy program, then just move in the Army. These rednecks are all yap and no bite. :smile:
 

Socrates the Greek

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LOL, so you just want everything handed to you on a golden platter??? Give it a rest.


See Risus you got me all wrong, I told you I have made big doe in my time and today my friend at the age of 60 I am not broke, what ever I have acquired in my life has been earned with hard work and style. .
 

Zzarchov

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So if this is all oil "through Canada" and entitlted to all Canadians, but no one outside our borders...

Why shouldn't these provinces just decide they aren't Canadians and that therefore the oil isn't entitled to the rest of us at all (being outside their borders)

I don't believe in nationalizing peoples property just because other people would like it. You can live without oil.
 

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A model for Canadian Energy resources could be the Norwegian State Oil Company, which owns all the oil resources of the country, and is also responsible for refining and distributing it to the retail level. Canada should be energy self sufficient in energy, and should have pipelines that supply the entire country with energy. Not that i think that the rabid free marketeers in our federal government (both Conservative and Liberal) have the vision for that.

Nor do our present leaders have the courage or character to separate themselves from their American puppet masters, to whom they grovel shamelessly. If the Albertans threaten to let the country freeze in the dark again for implementing a propietary national energy program, then just move in the Army. These rednecks are all yap and no bite. :smile:

Coldstream, you are on the mark my friend. I am baffled with this heavy red neck thinking (my oil is in Alberta, pay world price of get lost). We are not far from the $150 level per barrel and should gas at the pump reach $2,25 per litter as it is predicted, the economy in Canada is going to sh!t all over the Conservatives, they have the power to stabilize but knowing that they are broke with no ideas of economic substance and doe these f uckers in Ottawa are playing stupid. Every time Bush has asked Harper to go south for a visit Snow White has come back empty. Nothing but a Bush con puppet.
 

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So if this is all oil "through Canada" and entitlted to all Canadians, but no one outside our borders...

Why shouldn't these provinces just decide they aren't Canadians and that therefore the oil isn't entitled to the rest of us at all (being outside their borders)

I don't believe in nationalizing peoples property just because other people would like it. You can live without oil.

You must be so Green, do you live in a cave?
What, in the middle of the winter with -30 do you not use energy to heat your house?
It will take 100 years to completely set up a new infrastructure not depended on oil.
While the losers today in Ottawa are f ucking with people’s livelihoods.
 

Zzarchov

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You must be so Green, do you live in a cave?
What, in the middle of the winter with -30 do you not use energy to heat your house?
It will take 100 years to completely set up a new infrastructure not depended on oil.
While the losers today in Ottawa are f ucking with people’s livelihoods.


You mean besides electricity? Im cool with nuclear power. Its far more efficient than oil. It can also be decentralized in a pinch if you really want to.

Lots of people live in countries without any oil and do just fine.
 

Socrates the Greek

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You mean besides electricity? Im cool with nuclear power. Its far more efficient than oil. It can also be decentralized in a pinch if you really want to.

Lots of people live in countries without any oil and do just fine.

Home heating may be fine,
3 cars in the family $110 to fill up x 3 = $330 per week, that gets expensive totaling the whole month in order for three members in a family to go to work and take care of every day driving needs.
 

Socrates the Greek

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You blame the cons for everything under the sun here in Canada....it's not too much of a stretch to think you would blame them for world problems too.


Gerryh, first off I don’t blame the Cons for world problems. I blame these f uckers for secretly trying to get me to pay for their election over spending, for collecting stupid profits on gas tax on tax and the rest of the sh!t. You think I am out of order for squawking? I know one thing I don’t nock people with good intention. I nock f uckers who say they are transparent but in real life they are nothing but sh!t.
 

gerryh

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maybe I'm wrong ( I doubt it though) but the cons didn't bring in the present Gas Tax. Mulrooney may have been responsible for the GST but the Libs had originally said they would axe it...and didn't...yet the cons have cut it by 2 points. SO....where did all this "over taxing" come from? Conservative governments or Liberal governments?
 

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maybe I'm wrong ( I doubt it though) but the cons didn't bring in the present Gas Tax. Mulrooney may have been responsible for the GST but the Libs had originally said they would axe it...and didn't...yet the cons have cut it by 2 points. SO....where did all this "over taxing" come from? Conservative governments or Liberal governments?

Gerryh, the Conservatives may have droped the GST which makes optics look good. BUT, I personally and I am sure others on the same topic may agree with me, the bottom line is that in secrecy behind closed doors the Snow White loser according to Elections Canada got caught attempting as you know to make voters who did not vote for the Cons to pay for the election over spending. It should be elegal for the Cons to be charging TAX on the GST. That alone must produce more than the 2 stupid present these f uckers are braging about the cut on the GST. Snow White M Fs.
The topic at hand is to nationalize oil and gas reserves in Canadian soil.
 
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gerryh

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Gerryh, the Conservatives may have droped the GST which makes optics look good. BUT, I personally and I am sure others on the same topic may agree with me, the bottom line is that in secrecy behind closed doors the Snow White loser according to Elections Canada got caught attempting as you know to make voters who did not vote for the Cons to pay for the election over spending. It should be elegal for the Cons to be charging TAX on the GST. That alone must produce more than the 2 stupid present these f uckers are braging about the cut on the GST. Snow White M Fs.
The topic at hand is to nationalize oil and gas reserves in Canadian soil.


Of course it is...and that's only because you have real problem honestly answering who is responsible for what.

As for the charges brought by Elections Canada...it's a drop in the bucket and not worthy of the air time it is getting....it's not shawinigate....


Let me also reiterate..I am a Liberal supporter and have been for 30 years. Next Election I will once again vote Liberal. Unlike you, it appears, I have no misconceptions concerning the Liberal's OR the cons.

As for Nationalizing the oil industry in Canada....once again I say...you want to tear this Country apart, go for it, because I can gauantee the people of Alberta wil NOT stand for another NEP and the seperatists in this province are just waiting for another NEP type program from the Feds to kick start their agenda.
 

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Of course it is...and that's only because you have real problem honestly answering who is responsible for what.

OK, I have said here before that, the Government of the day when it comes to performance should be savvy enough to keep the Country from reaching the theater of deficit after deficit while the country sinks in red ink.
So, when you see that these bone heads have spend $12B to entice Canadians and they are having a terrible time selling their charisma to the Canadian people it frustrates the hell out of me. I simply want them to run the government like a fine RR car. Not like some Junker running on badly warn old tires.

As for the charges brought by Elections Canada...it's a drop in the bucket and not worthy of the air time it is getting....it's not shawinigate....


Elections Canada made it clear that the Cons were on the wrong path. I am a lib, vote for the libs and these losers behind closed doors are dreaming stupid vindictive creative accounting practices while Elections Canada says “hey wait a minute that is not fair”, my great friend I will take shawinigate over scum reaping me off when I am not in the same room as them.
Let me also reiterate..I am a Liberal supporter and have been for 30 years. Next Election I will once again vote Liberal. Unlike you, it appears, I have no misconceptions concerning the Liberal's OR the cons.

I have no misconceptions either, but the devil I know I trust far better than the devil who I will never get to know!

As for Nationalizing the oil industry in Canada....once again I say...you want to tear this Country apart, go for it, because I can gauantee the people of Alberta wil NOT stand for another NEP and the seperatists in this province are just waiting for another NEP type program from the Feds to kick start their agenda.


One thing we should keep in mind is that in a day of extreme world crisis the resorce called energy under Canadian soil belongs to Canada. In a world map when you look at it and say that, Canada has rich oil reserves people will understand what you are talking about. But for instance if we said to someone in another country oh, there is lots of Oil in Alberta, chance is that Alberta is less known to many around the world and ask where is Alberta and of course the answer is? Canada!, WHO SHOULD THE OIL BELONG TO? In my view Canada. In a crisis such as IRAN going to a war with the US in the near future, then we will be talking about these again because then the price of crude may go above $300. At this height the Canadian economy will collapse if industries subjected to the such high prices for gas, you can be sure they will go out of business. Should this madness get out of hand Alberta and Nova Scotia gerrish may find that there is a future easement on their province
 
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Lineman

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;-)Not so nice is it when someone else dictates the rules. Screw Ontario! With the west's electric, oil, grain and all kinds of other natural resources it would be nice to draw a new border straight north of Thunder Bay (T-Bay would not exist without the west's resources). Ontario and Quebec have run this country long enough and since they refuse to do anything to give the west more say in running it then let 'em rot. Long live the Northwest republic of the Americas!;-)
 

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;-)Not so nice is it when someone else dictates the rules. Screw Ontario! With the west's electric, oil, grain and all kinds of other natural resources it would be nice to draw a new border straight north of Thunder Bay (T-Bay would not exist without the west's resources). Ontario and Quebec have run this country long enough and since they refuse to do anything to give the west more say in running it then let 'em rot. Long live the Northwest republic of the Americas!;-)

So much hypocrisy isn't it Lineman, One question I have a problem with is, if raw resources under the Canadian soil belong to the provinces the resource is in, (what happens to the human resource when the federal Government in a moment of National crisis they call in the army?), if the army appearance to be lucking in human numbers to do the job, than the Government calls in the mandatory draft in order to bring the Army up to snuff. So, how dose it become that human beings are subjected to this reality and energy belongs in a completely self serving theater.