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UFO Disclosure: Don’t Rush to Gush

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.” - Stephen Hawking[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Yesterday, the [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]British government released[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] some of its heretofore top secret files on UFO sightings, just hours after the Vatican surprisingly announced, “[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]belief in God and aliens is OK.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]” Today, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Russian Muslims and Jews admit existence of UFO-people[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]. Also yesterday, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]NASA announced [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]the discovery of an object in our Galaxy astronomers had been searching for for 50 years. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Maybe it’s just the season for it. On May 11, 2001, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]The Disclosure Project[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]announced[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] the National Press Club event on the subject. Mexico held their international [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]press conference[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] to release their UFO sightings files on May 11, in 2004. “[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]On May 11, 1962 NASA pilot Joseph Walker said that one of his tasks was to detect UFOs during his X-15 flights[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif].” Two of the most [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]notorious UFO photos of all time[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] were taken on a farm in Oregon on May 11, 1950. OK, I know it’s not May 11, but we’re not far off. Interesting to note anyway.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Britain is not the first country to release some of their x-files. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]France released[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] some of theirs in March, 2007. Of course Mexico back in 2004. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Brazil in 2005[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] (May 20, by the way). [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Canada, Spain, Chile and Peru[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] have also released theirs, but according to that article, and point well made, information on ’sightings’ doesn’t necessarily equate to coming out and saying, yes, there are aliens, and here they are.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]This article[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] so aptly asks, “what do Britain’s ‘X Files’ tell us, and why have they been released now?” Maybe some kind of imminent and inevitable contact is in the works and they’re trying to acclimate us to the idea. Or, they just can’t hide it anymore. Or, these governments are all in cahoots to completely deceive us all, masterminding some kind of worldwide deception, a la [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Project Bluebeam[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif], to consolidate power and hypnotize us for awhile longer yet, so that we don’t notice all the other possibilities around us, like escape to a higher dimension, for example. Check out this YouTube video, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Fake UFO Attack Plan[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif].[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]The [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]religious question[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] always comes to mind, which is why it’s interesting to note when the Vatican noses in on UFO questions, as it [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]has done before[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]. Religion has been used as a way to control and conform, and certainly the Catholic Church is keen enough to keep a hold onto theirs, so their participation in this manipulation is not surprising. If something is coming and they know it (and you can be sure, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]they would know[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]), they are going to want to be in on it all from the get-go. Many people have theorized about aliens in the Bible, suspicious entities behind the New Age movement, ancient genetic engineering, and interspecies warfare. Contact will change everything we think we know both in terms of history, science and technology, not to mention politics and religion. It’s a very delicate subject that might need to be reinterpreted for the next era, if the present powers want to play a role.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]So, if the aliens do finally land on the White House lawn, who is ultimately responsible for helping us believe this is a good thing? Whose agenda would this be serving? Should we be paying attention to the fact that these things might be happening just before a much-anticipated theorized shift in consciousness in 2012? Does the timing have anything to do with Planet X, global warming, world war or some other kind of potential global catastrophe? Should we trust our government if they support our new space brothers? Should we be wary if they don’t?[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]In the UK, there has been a [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]huge rise in UFO sightings[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]. Russia is [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]building a UFO center[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] for sightings, research and observation. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]ABC News reported[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] that Arizona firefighters are being trained for UFO and alien contact. A couple of months ago, rumors suggested [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]the UN had been involved[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]in secret meetings regarding the issue, according to sources alleged by Exopolitics Institute’s Dr. Michael E. Salla. This meeting was [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]corroborated by a French aviator [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]involved in the talks, and then later had to be [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]clarified[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] as sources were withdrawn. Perhaps it is as [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Dr. Salla had previously noted,[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] as well as [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Dr. Greer[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] of the Disclosure Project, that divulging the truth of alien visitations might also unveil the truth about alternate energy sources, which the current powers-that-be don’t want for obvious reasons. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]UFO disclosure doesn’t make me giddy. It makes me very serious, concerned and thoughtful. Once one gets past the idea that there are such entities, one quickly finds talk of the [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]many alien races.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif] If that is the case there are likely many different agendas, possibly varying philosophies, capabilities and wisdom, and they might not all be love, peace and harmony. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]If they did seem loving, peaceful and helpful, that would be great; I’d like to hear them tell us about the latent and inherent powers we all possess, as spiritual beings, to rise above our present condition. These are truths referred to by our greatest spiritual sages, and ones I’ve experienced firsthand. Therefore, I wouldn’t want to see them set themselves up as the new powers-that-be. We don’t need an alien messiah bringing another round of brainwashing.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]On the other hand, I will accept there may be some good guys out there. Who knows if they’re interplanetary or interdimensional – or even both. They may indeed arrive to remind us of peace and love. Perhaps they might even teach us some interesting science and technology that could better our world. But certainly not if it demands our reverence or worship, or an even further consolidation of our world’s elite power structure. The subject is so enormously complicated and full of implications we haven’t thought of yet, we all need to be extremely careful what bandwagon we jump on. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Going back to Stephen Hawking; let’s not assume anything. If there are aliens and they do make their presence known, let’s not rush into anything. Be discerning. Be wise, thoughtful and balanced. Be open-minded, but not gullible. Ask the right questions. Even if they tempt us with radical free energy devices or world peace; be forewarned. Things may not always be as they seem. Remember to ask, whether they are here to serve man, or [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]serve man for dinner[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif].[/FONT]

 

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Thank you so much, Quandary!!

Finally the "Authorities" reveal the truth to us. There are UFO!!!

My late husband was convinced of their existence decades ago! He and a couple of friends would occasionally park at the edge of Lake Ontario at night and watch the sky, being sure they saw Ufos. That was back in the seventies.

...[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]and they’re trying to acclimate us to the idea.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Definitely! They can't keep the lid on the facts much longer. To avoid a people-panic they had to always leave it as a "possibility", but perhaps now the time has come to let us know what they have discovered, and what they have been up to until now.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]We don’t need an alien messiah bringing another round of brainwashing.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]I believe they want to help us as their space brothers in need. BUT... I admit it's a little scary, to say the least.
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Thursday, May 1, 2008 Minister of Defense Paul Hellyer - Alien Contact I wish I were in a mood for good humour, but I am not. We are hell-bent in the direction of destroying our planet, and we appear to be doing precious little about it. Decades ago visitors from other planets warned us about where we were headed, and offered to help. But instead, we, or at least some of us, interpreted their visits as a threat, and decided to shoot first and ask questions afterward. The inevitable result was that some of our planes were lost; but how many were due to retaliation, and how many were a result of our own stupidity is a moot point.
Films and Shows: Wilbert Smith, one of the first Canadians to take an active interest in the subject of UFOs, asked the visitors about the accidental destruction of our aircraft by flying into the vicinity of a flying saucer. The response: we were informed that although a few of our aircraft had come to an unfortunate end by what they considered colossal stupidity of our pilots, they were now taking corrective measures to avoid our aircraft. I asked them what happened, and they said, 'Well, the fields around the saucers in order to hold them up, in order to produce the gravity differential, the time field differential which were necessary to operate the ship, these sometimes produced field combinations which reduced the strength of materials to the point where they were no longer strong enough to carry the load that the materials were expected to carry'.
Music: Now, as we know, aircraft, particularly, the military type, are built with a rather small factor of safety, and in these regions of reduced binding, the materials are no longer strong enough to carry the load and the craft simply comes apart. This didn't satisfy our military chiefs who must have thought that it was more important to secure American nuclear superiority- even though using it would result in the annihilation of us all- than to take the hint and start moving the planet back from the brink of a global holocaust. They, the military, must have been and still are, so paranoid that they feel it necessary to use the visitors technology to fight them off, rather than welcome them as partners in development- though they may have seconded some renegades to assist in what can best be viewed as diabolical developments. Stephen (Bassett) has said that talking about UFO's is passé and that we should be talking about exo-politics. In theory, I agree, but in reality we have a problem when official U.S. policy insists that UFO's don't exist. The veil of secrecy must be lifted-and now, before it is too late. It is ironic that the U.S. would begin a devastating war-allegedly in search of weapons of mass destruction- when the most worrisome developments in this field are occurring in your own back yard. It is ironic that the U.S. should be fighting monstrously expensive wars in Iraq and Afghanistan allegedly to bring democracy to those two countries when it, itself, can no longer legitimately claim to be called a democracy when trillions of dollars have been spent on projects about which both the Congress and the Commander in Chief have been deliberately kept in the dark.
Books: How much has been accomplished in sixty years of feverish activity by some of the most highly educated minds in the U.S.? Has America developed flying saucers that are visually indistinguishable from the visitors, as alleged? And if so, what do they propose to do with them? Even more critical, what progress has been made in the development of clean energy sources that could replace fossil fuels and save the planet from becoming a veritable wasteland? Who has the answers? Someone does, but apparently they aren't telling either secretaries of defence or presidents because they do not have a need to know. In a story told by Dr Stephen Greer, President Clinton was asked a question by White House reporter Sarah McClendon about why he didn't do something about UFO disclosure. Clinton replied, 'Sarah, there is a government inside the government and I don't control it'. Excuse me. Doesn't the Commander in Chief and the person who allegedly has his finger on the nuclear trigger have a right to know what his subordinatess are doing? The people of the United States who have paid the bills have a right to know. The people of the world demand to know because it is our descendants, too, whose lives are in mortal jeopardy. It is time for the people of the U.S. to launch a new war against the evil of lies, deceit, and darkness, and go all out to win the victory of truth, transparency, and light? Paul T. Hellyer Former Vice-Premier and Minister of Defence Toronto - Canada

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I've remember reading about two types of Aliens - Nordics and Greys, Anybody know of any others?

 

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In a story told by Dr. Stephen Greer: President Clinton was asked a question by White House reporter Sarah McClendon about why he didn't do something about UFO disclosure. Clinton replied, Sarah, there is a government inside the government and I don't control it.
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X-Conference at the National Press Club, Washinghton D.C., April 21, 2008
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I've remember reading about two types of Aliens - Nordics and Greys, Anybody know of any others?

Which ones are the insect-looking guys? Hollywood likes reptilian. I'm kind of inclined to think in terms of energy rather than physical body.

 

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I've remember reading about two types of Aliens - Nordics and Greys, Anybody know of any others?

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+2]"In those days giants [nephilim] were in the earth, the men of renown of whom ancient tales are told". [/SIZE][/FONT]

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The word which is translated, "giants", in the King James version of the Bible is, in Hebrew, "Nephilim", which means, "Those who fell, or ... the fallen ones". Jude, the brother of Jesus describes them as "angels, having left their first estate in heaven". These fallen angels came to earth for their own purposes, to interfere in the development of human civilization.[/FONT]
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Scripture uses other names to describe these degraded fallen angels and their descendents in addition to the word Nephilim, they are...
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  [*]Rephaim - from the root rapha = spirits, shades Gen. 14:5
  [*]Anakim - race of giants Num. 13:33 descendents of Nephilim
  [*]Emim - the proud deserters, terrors, race of giants Gen. 14:5
  [*]Zuzim- the evil ones, roaming things Gen. 14:5
  [*]Zamzummims - the evil plotters, Deut. 2:20
  [*]Zophim - watchers, angels who descended Num. 23, distinct from "holy watchers" aligned with God
  [*]Sepherim - the many. . . .[/FONT]

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[FONT=Arrus BT, Helvetica][SIZE=+3]Seraphim,Cherubim & Ezekiel's Wheels[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arrus BT, Helvetica][SIZE=+3]Aliens,Nephilim & the Days of Noah[/SIZE][/FONT]

[SIZE=+2]Do not rejoice O Philistia, all of you, for the rod of your striking is broken, because a viper (Antichrist) comes forth from the root of the snake (Satan) and his fruit is the fiery flying seraph.Isaiah 14:29[/SIZE][FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]What is a "seraph"? The root form of "seraphim" in Hebrew connotes the members of the angelic host whose distinguishing characteristic is brilliance,or fire. According to Isaiah, these brilliant angels are the tools of Satan himself, the angelic host following him in his rebellion, and the forces behind Satan's End Times Deception... Ufo phenomena.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]For specifics on how the Antichrist will use the fiery flying seraphim, checkout UFOs and Antichrist: Cydonia Mars and End Time Deception[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]The book of Revelation gives a description of demonic miracles manifested by the false prophet on behalf of the Antichrist for the world to see. The most prominent of these is the calling down of fire from heaven, as the prophets of Baal were unable to do in Elijah's day. God ALLOWS the Antichrist to counterfeit miracles on an unprecedented level during the Tribulation. Consequently, Israel and the world will believe the Antichrist, (ministered to by the rebel angels disguised as "aliens" bearing ET technology and wisdom) is the true god.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Many believe the most blatant example of UFOs in the Bible is the account ofEzekiel and the Wheels. Although there are many accounts in the Bible thatdo indeed support the fact that ancient man was visited by the rebel B'naiElohim, fallen angels pretending to be "aliens mistaken for gods", thisreference to "wheels" and "creatures" in Ezekiel does not describe UFOs.[/SIZE][/FONT]

• [FONT=Arrus BT, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]"Now as I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel upon the earth beside the living creatures one for each of the four of them. As for the appearanceof the wheels and their construction ... the four had the same likeness being as it were a wheel within a wheel. The four wheels had rims and they had spokes, and their rims were full of eyes round about. And when the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them and when the living creatures went, the wheels went with them, for the living creature was in the wheel." Ezekiel 1[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Ezekiel's Wheels with Living Creatures Refers to the[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Zodiac and the Gospel in the Heavens[/SIZE][/FONT]


[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Far from being aliens in UFOs ... Ezekiel's living creatures refer to the four points of the zodiac, THEY ARE CHERUBIM. The zodiac alludes to the coming of Christ. Cherubim reflect the glory of God, the zodiac reflects the glory of God, they are all interconnected, according to God's plan.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]The "wheels within wheels" are the terrestrial planets going around in their orbits, "and when the living creatures went", that is, when the constellations of the zodiac went around in the heavens, "the wheels went with them," the planets in their orbits went around with them,"for the living creature was in the wheel", the constellations orbit along a "wheel" as do the planets. As for the "eyes all around", this refers to the Zophim, the Watchers (from the same root as eyes) - and their other celestial counterparts.[/SIZE][/FONT]


The Nephilim


[FONT=Arrus BT, Helvetica][SIZE=+2]UFO'S And Alien Abduction are Nothing New[/SIZE][/FONT]


[SIZE=+2]Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah, so also will be the coming of the Son of man. For as they were in the days before the flood...[/SIZE]
[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Just what was going on in the "days before the flood"?[/SIZE][/FONT]

• [SIZE=+2]The B'nai Elohim saw the daughters of Adam, that they were fit extensions. And they took wives for themselves from all those that they chose...The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when the B'nai Elohim CAME IN TO the daughtersof Adam, and they bore to them -- they were Powerful Ones which existed from ancient times, the men of name. (from the Interlinear Hebrew Bible Genesis 6)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]Baalhazor," [FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica]Lord of the fortresses" provides a connection between Baal and the god of theAntichrist. Baal was lord of war and of the sky. Many titles were given to Baal by adding endings to his name. Some examples found in scripture are Baalbamoth= Lord of the high places, Baalzebub= Lord of those who fly,or, flit. Zebub is a Hebrew verb which means to flit from place to place.[/FONT][/SIZE]

• [FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Baalis identified as Satan by Jesus himself, Matt.10:25 Mark. 3:22 Luke 11:15.[/SIZE][/FONT]
  
  
  [FONT=Arrus BT, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]The Antichrist will honor Satan, called Baal, Lord of Fortresses, Lord of the High Places , Lord of those who quickly fly (in the high places), Prince of the Power of the Air, and obviously Prince of the Power behind flying craft in the high places...ufos.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Incredibly, the Bible explains where Satan currently resides, and connects him with forces in the atmosphere. . . Paul says we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers, with wicked spirits in high places, literally, "in the heavens" "in the aerial regions" Eph.6:12. Hence Satan is called "the prince of the Power of the air" "the prince of the aerial host" Eph.2:2. The confederation of rebel angels is seated in the atmospheric heaven in the spaces above and around our world. This fundamental of scripture contradicts many traditional concepts of "hell" as the domain of the deviland his minions . King David recognized this fully when he wrote:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=+2]For who in the sky (the atmosphere),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]shall be ranked with Jehovah,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]who among the sons of the mighty[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]is like Jehovah? Psalm 89:6[/SIZE]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]While the New Testament uses the Greek word "demon" to refer to these "sons of the mighty", the Old Testament uses revealing descriptive names. Words which describe these beings, such as b'nai Elohim, "sons of God", Zophim, "the watchers", and Malakh, "messengers", (translated angel in English), are used for the "aerial host" often regardless of alignment. New Testament demons were understandably associated with evil, since originally the Greek term diamon meant "any deity", and the Bible consistently portrays only one God. There are three main terms for demons in the New Testament: daimonion (demon;60 times, 50 in the Gospels); pneuma (spirit; some 52 times) usually witha qualifying adjective such as akatharton (unclean; 21 times) or poneron (evil; 8 times); and angelos (7 times of demonic agencies). Daimon (demon), the term commonly used in classical Greek, appears only once (Mark 8:31) (Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology - Walter A. Elwell(Ed))[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Scripture explains that Satan and his host of fallen angels rule over this planet, it also details a hierarchy of demonic echelons.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Jesus Christ explained to his apostles what events would immediately precede his second coming,"It shall be exactly as in the days before Noah entered the ark". Matt24:38 , Luke 17:27. What is the significance of this statement and how does it relate to Ufos? The Flood epic Gen. 6 begins with a strange accountof the "sons of God" (b'nai Elohim), taking wives from among the daughtersof Adam.[/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]"In those days giants [nephilim] were in the earth, the men of renown of whom ancient tales are told".[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The word which is translated, "giants", in the King James version of the Bible is, in Hebrew, "Nephilim", which means, "Those who fell, or ... the fallen ones". Jude, the brother of Jesus describes them as "angels, having left their first estate in heaven". These fallen angels came to earth for a serious purpose.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The "fallen ones" sought to merge with the bloodline of Adam, because of the promise to send a redeemer through Adam's kinsman. The Hebrew says that the Sons of God saw that the women were a fit "extension", for they sought to extend themselves into this realm from the spirit realm, as well as to extend themselves into the "children of the promise" the lineage of Adam. Satan tried to prevent the eventual birth, in the distant future, of the Messiah.[/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The mating of human beings with angels resulted in hybrid creatures, evil spirits with human bodies. The human \ angel hybrids began to corrupt and destroy the humanrace, resulting in the Deluge, "the end of all flesh" except Noah and his family.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Scripture uses other names to describe these degraded fallen angels and their descendents in addition to the word Nephilim, they are. . . .[/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Rephaim- from the root rapha= spirits, shades Gen. 14:5[/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Anakim - race of giants Num. 13:33 descendents of Nephilim[/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Emim- the proud deserters, terrors, race of giants Gen. 14:5[/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Zuzim- the evil ones,roaming things Gen. 14:5[/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Zamzummims- the evil plotters, Deut. 2:20[/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Zophim- watchers, angels who descended Num. 23, distinct from "holy watchers" aligned with God[/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Sepherim- the many. . . .[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The book of theJubilees remarks that Jared or Yeh-red, an Old Testament patriarch, was so called because in his days the angels descended upon the earth - Yaw-rad"descend". It is interesting to note that "Jordan" comes from that same root word denoting "descent, coming down or falling" - Yar-dane"the place of the descent". Jordan, "place of the descent", is located in the ancient boundary of Israel. Israel is currently a major location for sightings,and the fallen angels in disguise as "aliens".[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The Book of Enoch explains that the Sons of God descended first onto the mountain called Hermon which in Hebrew means desolation, in the land of Jordan the placeof the descent. The rebel angels intended to thwart God's plan for the earth by destroying the descendents of Adam. Satan's goal in organizing the nephilim / human hybridization program was to pollute the bloodline that would produce Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the Kinsman Redeemer. Now that it is so close to the end times, satan has orchestrated human/rebel angel interaction on a grand scale. The plan is now to prevent any flesh from being saved.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]By manipulating human genetics, whether through the guise of "alien abduction" or by supplying willing mortal accomplices with the proper technology... there is currently being created humanoid hybrids who are not-quite-human. These gentically altered humans are no longer Sons of Adam, and no longer able to be saved by the Kinsman Redeemer. The second wave of hybrid "nephilim creation" is satan's last effort to destroy all Sons of Adam, so that none can be redeemed when Jesus Christ returns at the End of the Age.[/FONT]

[SIZE=+1]2 Thes 2:9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness ofunrighteousness in them thatperish;becausethey received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie ...[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Matthew 24:24[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.[/SIZE]

[FONT=Arrus BT, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]We are told that the endtime delusion is so strong that it will deceive the whole earth into accepting the antichrist. This lie of the end times will even fool many who think they are now Christians. This website is intended to counter the End Time Delusion, so that fewer people will be seduced by The Lie when it is allowed to come on the earth in full force.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Even though the Bible is full of references to Extraterrestrials, the popular notion that Elijah was taken up in a UFO is false. Significantly, the accountof Elijah testing the prophets of Baal delineates the separation between the false gods, the many manifestations of the fallen angels on Earth, and the True God ELOHIM.[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Elijah gathered the priests of the "baals" with the people of Israel, and proposed a challenge, a contest between God and gods:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+2]"THIS DAY SHALL THE TRUE ELOHIM BE REVEALED."[/SIZE][/FONT]

• [SIZE=+1]1 Kings 18:24 And you shall call on the name of your god; and I[/SIZE]
  [SIZE=+1]I will call on the name of Jehovah; and it shall be,[/SIZE]
  [SIZE=+1]the god who answers by fire, he is the God.[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]18:38 And fire fell from Jehovah and burned up the burnt offering, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and the water that was in the trench was licked up by it. And all the people saw, and fell on their faces, and said[/SIZE]

[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+2]"Yehovah, He is THE ELOHIM![/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+2]Yehovah, He is THE ELOHIM!"[/SIZE][/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+2]Deut. 6:4 Hear O Israel,[/SIZE][/FONT]
  [FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+2]the Lord your God, the Lord is one.[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Literally translated, Duet 6:4 declares, "Shema Israel, Yehovah Elohim, Yehovah echad!"[/SIZE][/FONT]
  [FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+2]I AM Gods, I AM unified.[/SIZE][/FONT]
  

[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Clearly, the definition of the name "Elohim" signifies the one God who is the Father and the Son and the Spirit. This is why God is able to declare:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+2]The testimony of two witnesses is true.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+2]I AM that bear witness of myself, and the Father[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+2]who sent me bears witness of me. (John 8:17)[/SIZE][/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]The Bible declares"At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall a matter be established".( Num. 35: 30; Deut. 17: 6, Matt. 27: 16). It is also interesting to note that it is the second person of the Trinity that is especially called "the faithful witness" (Rev. 1:5).[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial Narrow, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]The fact that Elijah himself will take part in the first 3 &1/2 years ofthe tribulation as one of the witnesses of Rev.11 further demonstrates the prophetic nature of the historic challenge between Baal and God in 1Kings 18. In the end times Satan will counterfeit the miracle of fire falling from heaven to persuade the people of the world that Antichrist is God (Rev 13:13) with the help of the "fiery flying seraphim".[/SIZE][/FONT]

 

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[SIZE=+3]Satan-Prince of the Power of the Air, Lord of those that Fly, Intelligence behind UFO manifestations and alien encounters[/SIZE]

• [FONT=Courier New, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]"[The occultist] is brought into intelligent communication with the spirits of the air, and can receive any knowledge which they possess, or any false impression they choose to impart...the demons seem permitted to do various wonders at their request." - G.H. Pember, "Earth's Earliest Ages and Their Connection with Modern Spiritualism and Theosophy" (1876)[/SIZE][/FONT]
  
• [FONT=Courier New, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]"UFO behaviour is more akin to magic than to physics as we know it... the modern UFOnauts and the demons of past days are probably identical." -Dr. Pierre Guerin, FSR Vol. 25, No. 1[/SIZE][/FONT]
  
• [FONT=Courier New, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]"The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demon -ological phenomenon..." - John A. Keel, "UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse"[/SIZE][/FONT]

[SIZE=+1]The causes behind UFO sightings, abductions, and other paranormal phenomena are more malignant and awesome than any theory scientists have proposed . The tribulation, or End Times will officially begin when (Dan.9:27) Israel signs a treaty with the head of the government of unified Europe to establish a Jewish temple in Jerusalem and resume the ancient sacrificial system of worship there.[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]The man who signs this treaty for Israel will be unique, he will be believed by many to be the long awaited Messiah of the Jews. Bible prophecy calls him the Antichrist. This Antichrist is described in detail in scripture.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]Careful investigation of these texts reveal a connection between Antichrist and the phenomena of UFOS.[/SIZE]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+1]Daniel 11 describes the Anti christ:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+1]"He shall not regard the God of his fathers, YHWH,[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+1]nor the desire of women[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+1]nor love any god, for he shall magnify himself above all.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+1]But in his place he shall honor the god of fortresses,[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+1](the Hebrew phrase is, Ala Mahozine), and he shall honor a god[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+1]whom his fathers (the Jews), did not know (literally, AN ALIEN GOD)."[/SIZE][/FONT]

 

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UFO SIGHTINGS KEEP ROLLING IN
FROM CANADA

HBCC UFO Research
By, Brian Vike
January 28, 2008

Reports from Canada are coming in as usual, but in one province UFO sightings are way up for this time of the year. A massive 73 reported written sightings and a number of telephone interviews places the total for Ontario to a whopping 81 cases as of May 15, 2007 to come into HBCC UFO Research which is located in Houston, British Columbia and UFOINFO located in the United Kingdom.

A number of UFO reports came in during the months of January and February, but it was in March when a flurry of fireball sightings were reported, then an unexpected huge number of cases were received directly after the fireball/meteor event. Witnesses are still writing up, and sending in some amazing cases, such as the recent triangular UFO sighting which just took place in Oshawa, Ontario where multi colored lights were moving around it in all directions and if that wasn't enough of an amazing event, in flew a "massive" triangular craft witnessed by three people who drew up an excellent diagram

Other UFO reports rolled in from Burlington, Toronto, Brockville, Whitby, St. Catharines, Brampton, Ottawa, Uxbridge, Bowmanville, Enterprise, Flesherton, Forest, Mississauga, Sarnia, Hamilton, Thornton, Wellesley, Ancaster, Jordon, Sudbury, Ajax, Bonfield, Newmarket, Grimsby, North Bay, London, Rice Lake, Kitchener, Orangeville, Belleville and Port Colborne and there are other areas as well.

Also many other UFO groups have received sighting reports out of Ontario as well. If one was to add all these into what HBCC UFO Research and UFOINFO has received so far, the total would be much greater. We are only in the middle of May and most UFO sightings are reported in the warmer months. There may be a record number coming out of the province before this year ends. We shall see.

Some of the objects that have been reported are lights, but lights doing some unusual maneuvers. Many triangle sightings, disk shaped craft along with silver round objects staying stationary and then shooting off at an incredible rate of speed. The list goes on!

As for the other provinces here in Canada, from what HBCC UFO Research and UFOINFO have received, it appears one heck of a lot slower than what is taking place in Ontario.

British Columbia sightings number 18, Nova Scotia - 2, Saskatchewan - 1, Quebec - 1, New Brunswick - 1, Alberta - 12, Manitoba 5 and New Foundland - 1.

The question I'm asking myself is why the large numbers of sightings in Ontario? Why has the Ontario media completely ignored what is happening in their own province? There seems to be more questions than answers as to what is happening in the skies over Ontario.

Something I have been so impressed with, and very grateful to many of these witnesses, is that they are willing to take the time with me on the telephone to either gather more details on the UFO experience, or are willing to speak openly with me for the radio show I host on UFOs.

What we would like to request is, if anyone in the province of Ontario has witnessed a UFO event, would you either contact me here at HBCC UFO Research or contact UFOINFO with a detailed report on what was seen.

The same goes for any other province here in Canada, please file your sighting reports. Also if you have experienced a sighting that goes back many years, these sighting reports are just as valuable to us, so please do get them in.

Thank you from Brian Vike - Director of HBCC UFO Research and Mr. John Hayes at UFOINFO.

Source: HBCC
http://canadaufo.blogspot.com/2008/01/ufo-sightings-keep-rolling-in-from.html

 

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UFO EVENTS
GRANISLE, HOUSTON, TELKWAS, HAZELTON
BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA

HBCC Research
By, Brian Vike
December 10, 2007

*HBCC UFO Research Quick Audio Report on roughly What Took Place Here On November 29, 2007.*

Hazelton, British Columbia - Major UFO Sighting.

On November 29, 2007 at 4:30 a.m. to approximately 9:00 a.m. on a ranch in Hazelton, British Columbia a man woke up in the early hours of the morning, looked out one of the windows of his home to spot something very unusual in the morning sky. He watched for a while then went and grabbed his spotting scope. What he witnessed through his scope took him by surprise. It was a huge ball of extremely bright white light, which turned out to be a "large" cigar shaped craft hovering in the sky over his ranch. The craft did move from time to time to a different part of the sky, but never really leaving the ranch area. At one point it moved over top of, and sat stationary half way down a mountain on the ranch called Roche Debulle. (Pictures of the mountain and ranch are included in links which were provided by the witness's sister).

Before I write down the eyewitness account of what was seen, I should note that the sister of the witness wrote an email to me over the event. She lives down on the lower mainland outside of Vancouver, B.C. In her email she told me the date of the sighting, which was on November 29, 2007 and the time was from 4:30 a.m. to approximately 9:00 a.m., which would have been daylight hours just before 9:00 a.m.

Her sister's email report to me was short as she gave her telephone number so I could call and talk to her personally about what her brother saw.

Number of witnesses: 1 Number of objects: 7 Shape of objects: Cigar shape through spotting scope.

Sister's full description of event/sighting: Good morning Brian, I've never heard of you until my girlfriend found your site after I was telling her what happened the other night (which was up north here in Hazelton, British Columbia). I live in Ladner, BC. My brother lives in Hazelton. My brother called me at 5:00 a.m. and I was on the phone with him until approximately 8:00 a.m. He watched as a craft hovered low on his ranch for about 4 hours. Other crafts, a total of seven zipped all around, what we are calling the command ship which remained on the ranch and in plain view the entire time.

Her brothers phone number is (removed by HBCC UFO Research) I tried calling the number on your 1 888 # but it seems to be a fax.

I (sister) can be reached at (phone number removed by HBCC UFO Research). I will be available for a call all day today.

HBCC UFO Research Note: The lady's brother phoned and woke his sister up at 5:00 a.m. This shows how exciting and amazing the sighting was over the man's ranch, they both stayed on the telephone for 3 hours, finally hanging up and later just after 9:00 a.m. the brother called his sister back to say the objects had left the area. Fascinating !

I telephoned the fellow who witnessed a sighting of multiple objects in Hazelton and got his feedback on what was seen.

The witness was at home on his ranch and had fallen asleep on his couch. At around 4:30 a.m. he woke up, but he told me he wasn't really asleep, more like just laying there hoping to catch a nap. The fellow decided to get up and head upstairs to his bedroom and flicked the TV on and immediately tuned it off and jumped into his bed. In his bedroom he has a large picture window which looks over his ranch. The man says it is beautiful land, as he can see his ranch, horses and Roche Debulle (mountain).

Bedroom picture window

He said it was a clear night and he was looking up at the night sky when he saw 4 to 7 objects, which were up at a good altitude and had red and green lights on them. As he watched, and looking over towards a foothill on his ranch he noticed an extremely bright light which also was very large in size. The man watched it for a good period of time and eventually it moved over top his property and stopped and hovered. I asked the witness roughly how low the object was, and he told me it was about half the height of Roche Debulle which is a beautiful mountain at the back of his property. (What ever this craft was, it was really low in altitude)

East window facing Roche Debulle where it moved and hovered

The witness said this low hovering main craft was just a big yellow colored light until he brought out his spotting scope and was able to really see some kind of shape to it. It turns out this object was like a giant cigar. All the other six objects which were green and red in color sat stationary much higher above and in a straight line across the night sky.

Due to the main crafts brightness he only saw a ball shaped light. It was only when he used his spotting scope that he could actually see shape to the object.

He was afraid to take his eyes off the thing just in case he missed something, but did eventually move down stairs to make a cup of coffee and was still able to observe the object from his kitchen window and it still sat there for a long time afterwards. Finally dawn started to break and when night turned to day the craft rose up, straight upwards and eventually just disappeared. The man told me he was able to watch the craft rising up until he wasn't able to view it anymore. As for the line of colored objects, they seemed to disappear due to the oncoming brightness from the daylight. That was it, an amazing UFO event !

Interesting audio clip about the November 29, 2007 sightings in Hazelton, Telkwa, Granisle and Houston British Columbia, Canada

Updates takes us through until December 10, 2007 from January 1, 2007

Ontario - 191 reported sightings
British Columbia - 136 reported sightings
Alberta - 36 reported sightings
Nova Scotia - 15 reported sightings
Quebec - 13 reported sightings
Manitoba - 20 reported sightings
Saskatchewan - 10 reported sightings
New Brunswick - 9 reported sightings
Newfoundland - 3 reported sightings
Yukon - 1 reported sighting

Total number of Canadian reported sightings so far for 2007 is 434 cases.

See Granisle, Houston and Telkwa, British Columbia, Canada sighting descriptions in the address below.
http://www.hbccufo.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3380

 

[Lester]

when she was about five,my neice once asked me -" who are those people with the big eyes that come into my room" I'm hoping that was a dream she was having. creeped me and my sister out.

 

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when she was about five,my neice once asked me -" who are those people with the big eyes that come into my room" I'm hoping that was a dream she was having. creeped me and my sister out.

There was a time when i lived on the road, with a horse and cart, many nights i spent watching the night skies, on two occasions i saw "comet " type shapes in the skies, on both occasions i was in company ,one of them was in bright day-light,there was nothing on the news about them, but they were there .!!And what ever we saw was real.! As we all commented ,"what the f**k was that" Theses more going on up there that we know.? Too many sighting some in formations, the fingers got to come out of the dam sometime.!!

 

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The nephilim pre Noah's flood

"When men began to increase on earth and daughters were born to them, the divine beings saw how beautiful the daughters of men were and took wives from among those that pleased them. The LORD said, 'My breath shall not abide in man forever, since he too is flesh; let the days allowed him be one hundred and twenty years.' It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth - when the divine beings cohabited with the daughters of men, who bore them offspring. They were the heroes of old, the men of renown." - Genesis 6:1-4

The nephilim

Who were these Giants of old these star visitors.?
Names and Misdeeds of the Watchers
Names and Misdeeds of the Fallen Angels (aka the Five Satans) in 1 Enoch 69:4-12. (1 Enoch gives other lists of the names of the fallen angels as well.) This passage is odd because it mentions angels that are not mentioned elsewhere.

1. Yeqon - "one who misled all the children of the angels, brought them down upon the earth, and perverted them by the daughters of the people"
2. Asb'el - "one who gave the children of the holy angels an evil counsel and misled them so that they would defile their bodies by the daughters of the people"
3. Gader'el - "he who showed the children of the people all the blows of death, who misled Eve, who showed the children of the people (how to make) the instruments of death (such as) the shield, the breastplate, and the sword for warfare, and all (the other) instruments of death to the children of the people"
4. Pinem'e - "demonstrated to the children of the people the bitter and the sweet and revealed to them all the secrets of their wisdom. Furthermore he caused the people to penetrate (the secret of) writing and (the use of) ink and paper"
5. Kasadya - "he who revealed to the children of the people (the various) flagellations of all evil - (the flagellation) of the souls and the demons, the smashing of the embryo in the womb so that it may be crushed, the flagellation of the soul, snake bites, sunstrokes, the son of the serpent, whose name is Taba'ta"

Names of other fallen angels - Semyaz, Aristaqis, Armen, Kokba'el, Tur'el, Rumyal, Danyul, Neqa'el, Baraqel, Azaz'el, Armaros, Betryal, Basas'el, Hanan'el, Tur'el, Sipwese'el, Yeter'el, Tuma'el, Tur'el, Rum'el, and Azaz'el - 1 Enoch 69:2

The nephilim (Aliens)

They there our in fossil records,." GIANTS"of old and ages past

 

[gopher]

Kanamit:

Hark - beware!!

 

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The skull on the left has larger brain area.?

 

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<H3 class=title_of_newsarticle>Russian Muslims and Jews admit existence of UFO-people

Moscow, May 15, Interfax – Islamic teaching admits extraterrestrial intelligence, the Muftis’ Council of Russia representative stated.

“According to the Holy Koran, the Almighty speaks about creation of various worlds. We know the world of people, jinns, plants and animals. Perhaps, we don’t know everything. The Creator can create anything. Other creatures may inhabit the worlds out of our reach,” the chairman of the international department of the Muftis’ Council Rushan Abbyasov was quoted as saying by the Moskovsky Komsomolets daily on Thursday.

He cited a Koran’s sura saying “Praise Allah, the Lord of the worlds!” and noted that thus the holy Muslim Book confirmed “that other civilizations may exist.”

“As to the question whether aliens bear original sin or not, there is no notion of original sin in Islam. In fact, the Koran says that if a baby dies, it goes right to the paradise because it is pure and innocent,” Abbyasov said.

Rabbi Zinovy Kogan said that “the Lord is the first cause for everything existing in micro and macro worlds.”

“It couldn’t be excluded that other creatures similar to man exist in other worlds,” he stressed.

The Moscow Patriarchate Department for External Church Relations secretary for inter-Christian affairs Fr. Igor Vyzhanov noted that the question of UFO-people existence had nothing to do with Christian dogmatics as it considered the question of saving human soul.

“I think that both Orthodox and Catholic theologians, if asked, will split up. Some will say: existing of extraterrestrial life is possible, how can we deny God’s creative power. The others will say that the earthy life is unique. Though this question is absolutely insignificant for the Church, it’s not even a scientific question, but just idle curiosity,” the priest concluded.

</H3>http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=4678