Cadman Bribery Scandal

[elevennevele]

LIberals were far worse for all there scandals and rip offs. Lest we forget. When will people see the Fiberals for what they are. Pathetic grave diggers. I call this grasping for straws in a desperate attempt to regain some face, after losing it all and being ousted out of power. LOL. Now that has got to be a kick in the nuts. Oh well Liberals should have known that you can't play crooked forever, and they were bound to get caught eventually.

That is all it is to some of you, isn't it? Just politics and supporting one side over the other no matter what. There are other parties to vote for other than the Liberals. There is also abstaining ones vote and making protest through letters, or other forms of actions to at least be proactive in some way.

When are some of you folks going to finally see it. Can any of you folks honestly say that if any other party leading this country was involved in these types of actions, you would hold the same 'rah rah' sentiments you hold for this Harper Conservative Party?

Really, be honest with yourselves people. Stop filtering the truth. The man is caught on tape for God's sake!

 

[Colpy]

What does it take Colpy before you see Harper for what he really is? Harper said he didn't know in Parliament and now the tape contradicts that he did know. The tape also shows he knew a financial incentive was being offered for Cadman's vote, which is illegal and he is heard saying not to pressure the guy too hard which also confirms his allowance of the action. This under his leadership. HE IS RESPONSIBLE.

I think I'm starting to understand what happened, and yes, it was unethical........

The boys were trying to talk Chuck into re-joining the Conservative fold...........and somehow working it out that he keep his Parliamentary benefits if an election happened.....Remember, if Chuck toppled the government, an election (in which he COULD NOT RUN, too ill) would have been immediate.....Chuck would lose his job, and his benefits..........thus he had a great personal incentive to vote Liberal.




Now, I have the greatest respect for Cadman........ I don't think his personal welfare would have influenced his decision more than slightly.......but leave it to idiot politicians to NOT understand a man of principle........and to try to level the field by UNETHICALLY offering to remove any personal incentive to vote Liberal.

Not good, but not quite an upfront bribe, either.

Harper never said he knew they were going to bribe him.....he said he knew they were going to talk about extension of benefits....I don't think he was up on details, as he knew they would fail.......


Somebody's head needs to roll.

Does anybody know about the employment benefits of MPs?

would they, by chance, include a million dollar life insurance policy?

Then again, maybe not:
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...885364-cp.html

 

[Avro]

I think I'm starting to understand what happened, and yes, it was unethical........

The boys were trying to talk Chuck into re-joining the Conservative fold...........and somehow working it out that he keep his Parliamentary benefits if an election happened.....Remember, if Chuck toppled the government, an election (in which he COULD NOT RUN, too ill) would have been immediate.....Chuck would lose his job, and his benefits..........thus he had a great personal incentive to vote Liberal.




Now, I have the greatest respect for Cadman........ I don't think his personal welfare would have influenced his decision more than slightly.......but leave it to idiot politicians to NOT understand a man of principle........and to try to level the field by UNETHICALLY offering to remove any personal incentive to vote Liberal.

Not good, but not quite an upfront bribe, either.

Harper never said he knew they were going to bribe him.....he said he knew they were going to talk about extension of benefits....I don't think he was up on details, as he knew they would fail.......


Somebody's head needs to roll.

Does anybody know about the employment benefits of MPs?

would they, by chance, include a million dollar life insurance policy?

Then again, maybe not:
[URL="http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...885364-cp.html"]http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...885364-cp.html[/URL]

Martin a Cretien said they never knew about what was going on with adscam.

I'll believe Harper if you believe them.

 

[Lester]

Cadman seemed to be an honourable man, put yourself in his shoes if you were dying and not expected to live out the year, how would you like to go out? with the dignity and respect of your peers or engaged in some sort of skullduggery- money doesn't mean much to a dying person- we come into this world naked and broke and thats the way we leave.

Lester

 

[wallyj]

This is starting to blow up on the libs. Cadman has said that he was not offered anything by any party.Cadman told Duffy that he voted with the libs to ensure his INSURANCE benefits would be maximized. His family has said that he told them about an offer from the conservatives. Someone is lying,so much for integrity. There is no documentation,even if such a policy was likely.The author cannot back up any claims,except hearsay and in an interview with cbc he comes across as a total fool. He is offering copies of the tape with Harper for sale. Paul Martin wrote the foreword for the book and probably leaked the story.The end result of all this is Cadman's family is being humiliated by a desperate party that has no policies or ethics. This is a short sad story,but speaks volumes about the liberals.

 

[wallyj]

My apologies for the two too many posts my computer all of a sudden decided to have a mind of it's own. Sometimes I type to fast though and hit buttons before I know it.

No matter how you say it or which language ,it is always the same.Cheers.

 

[OakServe]

This is starting to blow up on the libs. Cadman has said that he was not offered anything by any party.Cadman told Duffy that he voted with the libs to ensure his INSURANCE benefits would be maximized. His family has said that he told them about an offer from the conservatives. Someone is lying,so much for integrity. There is no documentation,even if such a policy was likely.The author cannot back up any claims,except hearsay and in an interview with cbc he comes across as a total fool. He is offering copies of the tape with Harper for sale. Paul Martin wrote the foreword for the book and probably leaked the story.The end result of all this is Cadman's family is being humiliated by a desperate party that has no policies or ethics. This is a short sad story,but speaks volumes about the liberals.

in the article i linked in the opening post, it states quite clearly that cadman admitted he was offered financial incentives in a CKNW interview, the audio of which is preserved on tape.

 

[wallyj]

in the article i linked in the opening post, it states quite clearly that cadman admitted he was offered financial incentives in a CKNW interview, the audio of which is preserved on tape.

Maybe, he was offered financial incentives,such as being under the conservative group insurance plan. Was it a million dollar life insurance policy? Very doubtful. Also,he is quoted in three seperate media sources that he was not offered anything by ANY party... This is a tempest in a teapot,that can only hurt his family. The liberals do not care about reputations,witness the Mulroney/Schrieber fiasco.They used him(Cadman) and threw him away. Chucky's bride is probably wishing that she never ever talked to this sleazeball writer.

 

[wallyj]

Did I say sleazeball? He is offering to sell the tape for $500 to media organizations. Light up the pipe,another crack investigative journalist shows his similarity to the liberals. He is probably dreaming of becoming the next governor-general between hoots.

 

[OakServe]

i think it's funny that even when the conservatives admit on tape to offering financial inducements to a sitting MP there's still people who find a way to attack the liberals out of all this.

are you really that blinded by your bias?

 

[wallyj]

i think it's funny that even when the conservatives admit on tape to offering financial inducements to a sitting MP there's still people who find a way to attack the liberals out of all this.

are you really that blinded by your bias?

Financial inducements to help out in an election campaign are not a one million dollar bribe that the LIBERALS and their friends in the media are screaming about. Can you tell the difference,or are you so eager to smear Harper that you are blinded? Third party hearsay is not evidence. This whole 'scandal' will turn out to be as empty as the liberals ethics.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

The Neo Cons are the inventors of morality not for them to obied by, for the masses only. They are just as sleazy as their predecessors lying Brian. Good thing elections are here soon.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

LIberals were far worse for all there scandals and rip offs. Lest we forget. When will people see the Fiberals for what they are. Pathetic grave diggers. I call this grasping for straws in a desperate attempt to regain some face, after losing it all and being ousted out of power. LOL. Now that has got to be a kick in the nuts. Oh well Liberals should have known that you can't play crooked forever, and they were bound to get caught eventually.

Hey harleyhunny, please refrain from trying to convince the masses that NEO CON **** don't smell. If you want to truly compare who got ousted between the Libs or the Neo Cons don't forget what happened to the Tories after Mulrony 13 year exile with only two seats in the house, so refrain from stupid commentary like the libs got kicked at the balls when in fact they went through the transition still holding onto more than 100 seats in the house, 100 to 2 pathetic NEO cons may the true grave NEO CON diggers stand up and be emberesed, so don't make stupid statements like that, LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Canada has prospered more under the Libs than they have under the NEO CON quarter smile.

 

[wallyj]

No doubt,Harper and the rest of the baby-eaters are so vile,corrupt and just plain mean that they should be brought down at the very first opportunity. Well ,maybe the second ,or third,or fourth, or fifth etc. So far in this whole Cadman affair,the only person who should be charged is Paul Martin. It is an offence to have knowledge of a bribe or an attempt to bribe an MP and not report it. So either he doesn't think this matter is worth the paper it is written on,or he believes that liberals do not have to obey the law. No,he probably believes both. You remember Paul Martin,the top lib in Quebec who knew nothing about sponsorship contracts. The guy who said his company CSL only recieved $38,000 in gov't favours and contracts when it was actually something like $162 million. Yeah ,that guy.

 

[OakServe]

No doubt,Harper and the rest of the baby-eaters are so vile,corrupt and just plain mean that they should be brought down at the very first opportunity. Well ,maybe the second ,or third,or fourth, or fifth etc. So far in this whole Cadman affair,the only person who should be charged is Paul Martin. It is an offence to have knowledge of a bribe or an attempt to bribe an MP and not report it. So either he doesn't think this matter is worth the paper it is written on,or he believes that liberals do not have to obey the law. No,he probably believes both. You remember Paul Martin,the top lib in Quebec who knew nothing about sponsorship contracts. The guy who said his company CSL only recieved $38,000 in gov't favours and contracts when it was actually something like $162 million. Yeah ,that guy.

i dislike martin, but all i know is that martin apparently wrote some of the foreword of the book.

i haven't seen anyone say he had a copy of the book or that he had read it even, or if he did read it that the book had the parts referring to the financial inducements in it yet.

you need to back up your claims with some sort of evidence.

 

[RomSpaceKnight]

All politicians are cut from same cloth. Fit of jacket may be a bit different, lapels wider or such but they are all the same. Put the Conservatives in power for multiple majority terms and they will stink as bad as any Liberal. Freeloading, pompous swaggering braggarts the whole lot,

I figure best bet is Conservatives in provincial goverment for local fiscal responsibility and Liberals in federal goverment for slight left of center or centrist policies. With the NDP lurking in background as country's conscience. F the Bloc.

 

[wallyj]

All politicians are cut from same cloth. Fit of jacket may be a bit different, lapels wider or such but they are all the same. Put the Conservatives in power for multiple majority terms and they will stink as bad as any Liberal. Freeloading, pompous swaggering braggarts the whole lot,

I figure best bet is Conservatives in provincial goverment for local fiscal responsibility and Liberals in federal goverment for slight left of center or centrist policies. With the NDP lurking in background as country's conscience. F the Bloc.

You have fallen into the liberal trap. They continually make false allegations in the HofC,which are dutifully broadcast by their friends in the media to make people believe that all politicians are cut from the same cloth. No gov't has ever been as sleazy as the liberals. If you go back a few posts,you will see that I wrote that the only losers in this fiasco will be the libs and the Cadmans. But the libs don't care about the Cadmans,they used them and now will toss them.

 

[RomSpaceKnight]

And Brian Mulroney is squeaky clean and never took cash from an arms lobbyist or misreported his income to the taxman.

 

[wallyj]

And Brian Mulroney is squeaky clean and never took cash from an arms lobbyist or misreported his income to the taxman.

Mulroney messed up and the liberals and their friends in the media are still dragging him through the mud fifteen years later. He apologized,get over it. The libs want him back in front of the Ethics committee to do it again.They say it is to clear up discrepancies,the only discrepancies are between him and the fellow who got sprung out of jail,avoids extradition for serious charges in Germany and dines with members of the committee. Not one person except for KHS testified that they knew of anything illegal.Everyone was asked that question. It is a witch hunt.....Anyways don't deflect from the thread line which is about the current leader of the liberals accusing the current prime minister of serious charges,compared to high treason by Mansbridge of the cbc,on extremely flimsy evidence. The liberals have no shame,no ethics,no firm policies and no leader. Let's have an election.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Mulroney messed up and the liberals and their friends in the media are still dragging him through the mud fifteen years later. He apologized,get over it. The libs want him back in front of the Ethics committee to do it again.They say it is to clear up discrepancies,the only discrepancies are between him and the fellow who got sprung out of jail,avoids extradition for serious charges in Germany and dines with members of the committee. Not one person except for KHS testified that they knew of anything illegal.Everyone was asked that question. It is a witch hunt.....Anyways don't deflect from the thread line which is about the current leader of the liberals accusing the current prime minister of serious charges,compared to high treason by Mansbridge of the cbc,on extremely flimsy evidence. The liberals have no shame,no ethics,no firm policies and no leader. Let's have an election.

Yes, let's all feel sorry for Mulroney, he only lied in court in 1995 about his dealings with Schreiber to avoid facing charges of corruption. He claimed he barely knew Schreiber, convienently forgetting to mention he recieved cash filled envelopes from the man totalling hundreds of thousands of dollars. Based on this he enjoyed an even greater winfall at the expense of the Canadian taxpayers, $2.1 million to be exact. If there's any justice in this country he'll be facing perjury and fraud charges. Funny how it's a witch hunt when the conservatives are held to account and justice when the Liberals are made to pay.

I'd say offering a dying man money for his vote then lying about it years later, making his family out to be liars is much more despicable than anything the Liberals have done. The conservatives have gone to a great deal of effort to convince themselves and Canadians that they offer a credible alternative to the other parties, the only problem is these annoying facts that slip through the tight media control keep shaking that illusion...and that's all it is. Yes, let's have an election, my feeling is less Canadians have been fooled than the conservatives think.