Harper is nothing but a total contradiction!

CDNBear

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So, I mix up Zzarchov and CDNBear. I forgot the face that the name was written on. It is early here, or late, but clearly the time of my excuse if you will.
Not a problem my good man.

In time all great minds will have their moments of fault.

Although we should take this show on the road, as it were...over to the 'socialist' thread.

And leavethis one for the talk on Afghanistan, Harpo and company and all the human frailties that come with being such.
 

darkbeaver

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'"Socialism as an ideology is quite acceptable to me, one because I would agree that capitalism has several draw backs, but ancestrally, my peoples made it work. (The Haudenosaunee{Iroquois} were a communal people, not communist thought, lol.)"

Bear Here you are again denying the historical truth about your revered ancestors when you don't have to. If you understood communism or socialism you would agree with me, your comrade, who you do not recognize because of your deficit of understanding of two little words. You bear the scares of reflexive conditioning. You and I and millions of others have been trained by the media and by our own teachers to literally see red when either of the two naughty words show up.We imeadiately go right to visions of Stalanism or Nazis which of course is exactly what our owners required of the mass media, we have been trained for over seventy-five years to respond exactly as you do, by the real enemy, capitalism and empire. Niether word means what we have been historically taught to believe, niether word has anything at all to do with Stalin or Hitler, they are simply words that describe what historically and naturally already exist, both words point to sucessfull organization of tribes, cultures and communitys or nations, capitalism and imperialism are two very different and destructive mechanisms used to overcome the efficent and powerfully benevolent traditions of humanity. You nor I can count the socially responsible men and women who were fed to capitalist and imperialist wars that did not understand who the enemy was. They were actually used and consumed to ensure wage slavery for thier children exactly the future they thought they fought to prevent.
 

warrior_won

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Hey...where'ld ya go!!!???

I know it's a long read, but wtf?

lmao!

Actually, I had lost interest in this thread and hadn't checked it for a few days.

What was I supposed to have picked up from that link? Here's what I got from it:

1) The U.S. supplied weapons and training for the war against the Russians. No big shock.

2) Osama Bin Laden volunteered to fight. No big shock.

3) The CIA supervised the operation. Other than supplying weapons and know-how, they did little else... Aside from convincing other countries in the Middle East to fund the war.

4) Osama Bin Laden and like-minded individuals developed a hatred for "U.S. Puppeteering" during that conflict.

One would have to question how closely Osama Bin Laden worked with the CIA given the result of the alleged relationship was that Bin Laden resented U.S. interference in the Middle East.

Did I miss your point?
 

Said1

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The trains ran on time. Hey Said1 the corporatists and clergy and monarchists who payed and played to put him in power never complained about him. Are you sure you're cut out for the corporate dog eat dog world? You seem way to nice.:lol:


No I'm not. That's why I'm a geography major. :lol:
 

warrior_won

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No I'm not. That's why I'm a geography major. :lol:

Geography, huh? So you know all about borders and boundaries. So when someone draws a line and says, "That's your side... This is mine. You stay on your side." You understand things like that, huh? Seems a lot of people have difficulty with that.

Anyway, I'm out of this discussion. It's a waste of time for me to talk about something that I have no interest in. :lol:
 

CDNBear

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Bear Here you are again denying the historical truth about your revered ancestors when you don't have to. If you understood communism or socialism you would agree with me, your comrade, who you do not recognize because of your deficit of understanding of two little words. You bear the scares of reflexive conditioning. You and I and millions of others have been trained by the media and by our own teachers to literally see red when either of the two naughty words show up.We imeadiately go right to visions of Stalanism or Nazis which of course is exactly what our owners required of the mass media, we have been trained for over seventy-five years to respond exactly as you do, by the real enemy, capitalism and empire. Niether word means what we have been historically taught to believe, niether word has anything at all to do with Stalin or Hitler, they are simply words that describe what historically and naturally already exist, both words point to sucessfull organization of tribes, cultures and communitys or nations, capitalism and imperialism are two very different and destructive mechanisms used to overcome the efficent and powerfully benevolent traditions of humanity. You nor I can count the socially responsible men and women who were fed to capitalist and imperialist wars that did not understand who the enemy was. They were actually used and consumed to ensure wage slavery for thier children exactly the future they thought they fought to prevent.
You may very well be right DB, but what should we say to history?

What stops your vision from becoming a nightmare?
Did I miss your point?
The point, the truth, the real world, hell I think you even missed the boat...

Jump!
Anyway, I'm out of this discussion. It's a waste of time for me to talk about something that I have no interest in. :lol:
More like it's a waste of time to talk about something you have no knowledge of. I'm not surprised you lost interest though, you seem to believe what the media wants you to believe and nothing beyond that will penetrate the preprogrammed OS.

When you take the blinders off, give me a call.