The Mother Teresa Fable

gerryh

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and why is she popular.....because she screwed everyone she came in contact with, like you portray?
 
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gerryh

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I bet she isn't as popular as bugs bunny and never will be. I don't care about her private life, whatever she did with contacts isn't my business.


SO...considering you're not Catholic, what the hell is your problem then? How does her canonisation effect you? How does anything to do with her have to do with you?
 

gerryh

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really....and here I was under the understanding that you didn't believe in "God". So, if you don't believe in "God", how can you be "sharing the planet"?
 

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really....and here I was under the understanding that you didn't believe in "God". So, if you don't believe in "God", how can you be "sharing the planet"?

Who told you I didn't believe in god? So you were under the understanding. Wouldn't it have sounded better if you had said that you were under the opinion that I didn't believe in god? Or maybe you understood that I didn't believe in god, but not under the understanding which dosen't read well or sound good. We have standards here you know gerryh.Punctuation, syntax and spelling, apparently the head office likes it literate, I'm not in any way bothered by your sloppyness but some of the others may not be able to understand or take the time to decipher your messages which may contain something we can all benefit from. I appreciate your input in this thread as I do all of your contributions, no doubt your defence of M.T. can be redemned for coupons or frequent flywheel miles or some sort of special dispensation you know the kind of thing your sort likes.:smile:
 

gerryh

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Who told you I didn't believe in god? So you were under the understanding. Wouldn't it have sounded better if you had said that you were under the opinion that I didn't believe in god? Or maybe you understood that I didn't believe in god, but not under the understanding which dosen't read well or sound good. We have standards here you know gerryh.Punctuation, syntax and spelling, apparently the head office likes it literate, I'm not in any way bothered by your sloppyness but some of the others may not be able to understand or take the time to decipher your messages which may contain something we can all benefit from. I appreciate your input in this thread as I do all of your contributions, no doubt your defence of M.T. can be redemned for coupons or frequent flywheel miles or some sort of special dispensation you know the kind of thing your sort likes.:smile:


Nothing of relevance to say, I see. Not that that is anything out of the ordinary.
 

Vereya

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Really......... birth control eh....... so you are from the school that believes that personal responsibility for ones actions is unnecessary. SO much easier to murder your mistakes than to ensure you don't make them in the first place. More "it's all about me and the hell with anyone else" I see.

I just don't see how the idea of birth control contradicts the idea of personal responsibility. Quite the contrary. You make the decision when to have children, if to have them at all, and you take steps to make sure that it doesn't happen before you are ready. If you practice birth control, pregnancy won't come at a most inappropriate moment, you won't have to resort to abortion, and you will be able to have a child just when you are sure that you can provide for it, and guarantee it a comfortable and secure childhood, a good education, and a good opportunity to become someone when it grows up. The worst thing to do, in my opinion, is to have a baby just because you happened to get pregnant. Before you have a child, you've got to think of its future, and of what you can do to make it as good and comfortable as possible, because it is your main responsibility as a parent. It's much better not to have a child at all, then to have one, and then to ruin its life by poverty, neglect, and lack of opportunities.
 

Vereya

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No I honestly do not believe we have become more barbaric and heartless. We certainly have the capability to kill on a larger scale so we do. But if you actually think the "average" human being is more barbaric and heartless than a few centuries ago, then you need to move and get new neighbours. :D

We have medical care, we have food banks, we have homeless shelters we have charity upon charity many of those if not most run by Christian organizations. See the food being dropped in Bangladesh due to the flood? All those people would have no access to food or medical help in another time.

Sal, if we are so kind and civilized, can you explain why is it that the medical care goes to the rich, while the poor still die from the same diseases that used to kill people years ago? Why is it that people who run charities are rich, while those the charities are for never get our of poverty? How can this world be civilized and sane, if it is run by psychopaths? And how come the psycopaths got control over the world, in the first place?
Just a few questions that come to mind after reading your post.
 

karrie

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I just don't see how the idea of birth control contradicts the idea of personal responsibility. Quite the contrary. You make the decision when to have children, if to have them at all, and you take steps to make sure that it doesn't happen before you are ready. If you practice birth control, pregnancy won't come at a most inappropriate moment, you won't have to resort to abortion, ....

I may be wrong but I believe that the issue came up as gerry objecting to the use of abortion AS birth control.
 

darkbeaver

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I just don't see how the idea of birth control contradicts the idea of personal responsibility. Quite the contrary. You make the decision when to have children, if to have them at all, and you take steps to make sure that it doesn't happen before you are ready. If you practice birth control, pregnancy won't come at a most inappropriate moment, you won't have to resort to abortion, and you will be able to have a child just when you are sure that you can provide for it, and guarantee it a comfortable and secure childhood, a good education, and a good opportunity to become someone when it grows up. The worst thing to do, in my opinion, is to have a baby just because you happened to get pregnant. Before you have a child, you've got to think of its future, and of what you can do to make it as good and comfortable as possible, because it is your main responsibility as a parent. It's much better not to have a child at all, then to have one, and then to ruin its life by poverty, neglect, and lack of opportunities.

Nicely put, I agree.:smile:
 

Sal

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Sal, if we are so kind and civilized, can you explain why is it that the medical care goes to the rich, while the poor still die from the same diseases that used to kill people years ago? Why is it that people who run charities are rich, while those the charities are for never get our of poverty? How can this world be civilized and sane, if it is run by psychopaths? And how come the psycopaths got control over the world, in the first place?
Just a few questions that come to mind after reading your post.
Evening Vereya.

I think as individuals mankind has in general moved a long way forward in the last 100 years. The examples I used are all within the last century as well as the abolition of slavery that Karrie brought up. As well as a world code for human rights. This simply did not exist prior to. We have to acknowledge that, at least that we are doing some things right.

You can not just take every negative thing and say see, we are barbaric, murdering rapists. I don't know about you but I celebrate the positive I see in daily life. The small kindness done by strangers for strangers. The food given. The lives given for others.

We are a cruel species yes. We are also a loving one.

Is it nearly enough. Of course not. But it is further along the path than we were.

As for psychopaths running the world, I doubt that people that run multi-billion dollar corporations have much of conscience. How could they and do what they do on a daily basis. Corporations run this world.