Breaking waters not needed in routine births

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PAUL TAYLOR
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It's one of the most common medical procedures involving childbirth, but apparently it doesn't work. Using a long-handled hook, a doctor or midwife will puncture the amniotic membranes - the bag of water - surrounding the fetus in the hopes of hastening delivery.
The procedure, called amniotomy, is also known as "breaking the waters." Medical experts have long assumed the hormones released in the sudden gush of amniotic fluid can help trigger stronger labour contractions and quicken cervical dilation.
But British researchers examined the existing scientific evidence and concluded that amniotomy doesn't ease delivery - and could slightly increase the chances that the woman will need a cesarean section.
They looked at 14 separate studies involving almost 5,000 women in Britain, the United States and Canada.
"In a normally progressing labour where there are no concerns about the baby's wellbeing, there is little current evidence to justify breaking the woman's waters," researcher Rebecca Smyth of the University of Liverpool said in an e-mail.
Over all, "it doesn't shorten the first or second stage of labour, it doesn't affect the woman's satisfaction with her childbirth experience and doesn't result in the child being in better condition immediately after birth," according to the findings published in the Cochrane Library, the publication of an international organization that evaluates medical research.
Yet many medical centres perform amniotomy for routine deliveries. One Toronto hospital does it for 80 per cent of the births under its roof.
Ms. Smyth noted that the research team didn't examine complicated labours. So in certain high-risk cases, there may still be a need to break the membranes for fetal monitoring or assisting the labour. But in typical deliveries, "the membranes should be allowed to rupture naturally," she said.
 

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"In a normally progressing labour where there are no concerns about the baby's wellbeing, there is little current evidence to justify breaking the woman's waters,"
i thought they broke the waters to start labour.
 

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they do that with an injection. They often break the waters at the same time, but this study shows that that method doesn't actually do anything
 

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My labor had gone on, putzy contractions every twenty minutes, for almost three days when finally I was getting so worn out from not being able to sleep solidly, that the midwives decided to break the water. While it doesn't release a rush of hormones or anything, it does let the head properly engage, and my son was born less than three hours later.
 

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they do that with an injection. They often break the waters at the same time, but this study shows that that method doesn't actually do anything

i know how induction works. the article mentions a normally progressing labour, whereas i thought breaking the waters was done to start labour, you know, before it's normally progressing?
 

karrie

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No, they never break the water until after labor's been going a good long while. The rush of water too often washes the cord out and causes pinched off blood supply to the baby. They only do it if the head is almost entirely engaged, usually after labor's been going for a quite a while.

i know how induction works. the article mentions a normally progressing labour, whereas i thought breaking the waters was done to start labour, you know, before it's normally progressing?
 

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No, they never break the water until after labor's been going a good long while. The rush of water too often washes the cord out and causes pinched off blood supply to the baby. They only do it if the head is almost entirely engaged, usually after labor's been going for a quite a while.
that is not true at all.
 

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i know how induction works. the article mentions a normally progressing labour, whereas i thought breaking the waters was done to start labour, you know, before it's normally progressing?

I've never heard of a midwife performing (only) an amniotomy to start labour. the idea is usually to speed things up, although this article proves that doesnt work.
 

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I've never heard of a midwife performing (only) an amniotomy to start labour. the idea is usually to speed things up, although this article proves that doesnt work.
a study of 14 studies involving 5000 women in 3 separate countries does not prove anything. it suggests.
 

karrie

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are you making this up as you go, or do you have any facts to prove what you are claiming?

I studied for a while to become a midwife (thus my statement of never... a home birth wouldn't break waters to start a labor... too risky with no medical intervention around).... all my facts are in books in the basement.

here's a link that talks about some of the risks and such though... here

and another on cord prolapse here
 

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did you read your links, karrie?

Amniotomy, or the artificial rupture of the amniotic membrane, is often performed on women in hospitals,

that's nice that you studied for a while, but it does not make you an expert.
 

karrie

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did you read your links, karrie?



that's nice that you studied for a while, but it does not make you an expert.

I said they rarely use it to START a labor flutterby... that they usually only use it once a labor's been going for a while. How does that quote disprove that?
 

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what you said was:

No, they never break the water until after labor's been going a good long while. The rush of water too often washes the cord out and causes pinched off blood supply to the baby. They only do it if the head is almost entirely engaged, usually after labor's been going for a quite a while.

this is wrong, even if you change 'never' to 'rarely'.
 

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Flutterby, you're taking things out of context here. If you posted the rest of that snip from Karrie's link, you would see that it explains the procedure is done to speed up labour, or to insert a monitor, not start it, which is entirely consistant to what Karrie has been saying in this thread.
 

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Amniotomy, or the artificial rupture of the amniotic membrane, is often performed on women in hospitals, either to speed up their labors, or to insert the electronic fetal monitor; sporadically it is made so that the health care provider can take blood samples from the fetus, and/or determine whether or not there is meconium staining (the first bowel movement of the fetus), which is considered to indicate fetal distress. The procedure is trouble-free: a hospital attendant introduces an instrument looking like a hook through the cervix, then catches and ruptures the amniotic sac.
i didn't quote the whole paragraph before because it was not relevant.


please lets keep in mind that Karrie is citing a site called search your love, an online dating service.