Ann Coulter's latest foot-in-mouth

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Even the right wing neo-con ADL has condemned Coulter's hate filled antisemitic remark:

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASUS_12/5149_12.htm


'''[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Coulter's remarks are outrageous, offensive and a throwback to the centuries-old teaching of contempt for Jews and Judaism. The notion that Jews are religiously inferior or imperfect because they do not accept Christian beliefs was the basis for 2,000 years of church-based anti-Semitism. '''


Coulter's hate filled rant reflects Hitler's crazed ideology and centuries of attempted extermination. Therefore, the ADL's rightful condemnation successfully refutes the apologists who defended Coulter on this forum.
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But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

perfection = conversion = death sentence

Any Jew could interpret it that way. You as a Christian (assuming you are one) cannot see, however, that this is the way it is viewed by Jews.

Would this make true believers of Judaism intolerant bigots? Why don't we just admit that Judasim, Christianity and Islam are all intolerant. Since these there religions make up the belief systems of a large portion of the world if we don't show some tolerance to the intolerance in these religions then we are intolerant.
 

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Coulter's hate filled rant reflects Hitler's crazed ideology and centuries of attempted extermination. Therefore, the ADL's rightful condemnation successfully refutes the apologists who defended Coulter on this forum.
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How close does it reflect it. Hitlar did not believe in God:

"When we [National Socialists] speak of belief in God, we do not mean, like the naive Christians and their spiritual exploiters, a man-like being sitting around somewhere in the universe. The force governed by natural law by which all these countless planets move in the universe, we call omnipotence or God. The assertion that this universal force can trouble itself about the destiny of each individual being, every smallest earthly bacillus, can be influenced by so-called prayers or other surprising things, depends upon a requisite dose of naivety or else upon shameless professional self-interest

Other members of the Hitler government, including Rosenberg, during the war formulated a thirty-point program for the "National Reich Church" which included:
  • The National Reich Church claims exclusive right and control over all Churches.
  • The National Church is determined to exterminate foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill omened year 800.
  • The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible.
  • The National Church will clear away from its alters all crucifixes, Bibles and pictures of saints.
  • On the alters there must be nothing but Mein Kampf and to the left of the alter a sword.[4]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_Religion

Perhaps you attacks on Coulter for verbalizing a Christian belief much more closely resemble Hitlar then the lady you are attempting to demonize.
 

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There can be no question that there is FAR too much intolerance in this troubled world. But it would not be fair to single out those religions to the exclusion of others. For example, I have previously pointed out that Hindu fanatics have killed more Christian missionaries in the past decade than have Muslim fanatics {op cit}. They also mounted a hate campaign of racist attacks upon Sikhs and killed several hundreds if not thousands. And yet, the world looked the other way when these atrocities happened.

I do not wish to paint everyone with this broad brush. Again, there is far too much intolerance in this world. But no single religion should be said to be any less tolerant than any other.
 

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How close does it reflect it. Hitlar did not believe in God:


Perhaps you attacks on Coulter for verbalizing a Christian belief much more closely resemble Hitlar then the lady you are attempting to demonize.



Hitler [correct spelling] was honored by the Catholic church for his efforts:




moreover, he openly practiced Christianity:


http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm



Perhaps you defend Hitlerian Coulter because you and she are so liked minded.
 

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There can be no question that there is FAR too much intolerance in this troubled world. But it would not be fair to single out those religions to the exclusion of others. For example, I have previously pointed out that Hindu fanatics have killed more Christian missionaries in the past decade than have Muslim fanatics {op cit}. They also mounted a hate campaign of racist attacks upon Sikhs and killed several hundreds if not thousands. And yet, the world looked the other way when these atrocities happened.

I do not wish to paint everyone with this broad brush. Again, there is far too much intolerance in this world. But no single religion should be said to be any less tolerant than any other.

I wasn't aware of that. I thought the eastern religions were more passive.
 

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Hitler [correct spelling] was honored by the Catholic church for his efforts:


Perhaps you defend Hitlerian Coulter because you and she are so liked minded.

I expect comments like that from a left wing Zealot like you. I don't practice Christianity and I am quite libertarian. I hardly see that resembling Ann Colter. What I can't stand is the assault on free speech to forward political ideologies. The ideology you would be forwarding is the left wing politically correct agenda.
 

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Quoting you:

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you attacks on Coulter for verbalizing a Christian belief much more closely resemble Hitlar then the lady you are attempting to demonize.''


Who was the first one to equate anyone here with Hitler if it wasn't you?

And now that the Zionist ADL has also condemned her words, that affirms that I was correct.
 

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Quoting you:

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you attacks on Coulter for verbalizing a Christian belief much more closely resemble Hitlar then the lady you are attempting to demonize.''


Who was the first one to equate anyone here with Hitler if it wasn't you?

And now that the Zionist ADL has also condemned her words, that affirms that I was correct.

So what. You equated Ann with Hitlar and she is not here to defend herself. I don't know much about ADL but I find it ironic that you are calling Ann Coulter an antisemite but at the same time labeling a jewish group a bunch of zionest. Of course I don't expect much more from you given your twisted view of the world.
 

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Obviously, you know nothing about the subject as the ADL is openly Zionist. But such ignorance is typical of sicko right wingers. In fact, you don't even know how to spell ""Hitler"" correctly!
 

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Obviously, you know nothing about the subject as the ADL is openly Zionist. But such ignorance is typical of sicko right wingers. In fact, you don't even know how to spell ""Hitler"" correctly!

I decided to do some research:

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Separation of church and state

One of the ADL's major issues is religious freedom for people of all faiths.[citation needed] In the context of public schools, the ADL has taken the position that because Creationism and Intelligent Design are religious beliefs, and the government is prohibited from endorsing the beliefs of any particular religion, they should not be taught in science classrooms: "The U.S. Constitution guarantees the rights of Americans to believe the religious theories of creation (as well as other theories) but it does not permit them to be taught in public school science classes."[9] Similarly, the ADL supports the legal precedent that it is unconstitutional for the government to post the Ten Commandments in courthouses, schools, and other public places: "True religious liberty means freedom from having the government impose the religion of the majority on all citizens."[10] The ADL has also condemned the public school Bible curriculum published by the National Council on Bible Curriculum in Public Schools, saying that it raises "serious constitutional problems" and "advocates the acceptance of one faith tradition's interpretation of the Bible over another."[11]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League

Perhaps attacking Christianity is business as usual for the ADL. Consequently, it is not surprising that they atacked Ann Coulter for her remarks.



As to your comments about them being zionest:


""Criticism of particular Israeli actions or policies in and of itself does not constitute anti-Semitism. Certainly the sovereign State of Israel can be legitimately criticized just like any other country in the world. However, it is undeniable that there are those whose criticism of Israel or of "Zionism" is used to mask anti-Semitism."[6]"


My question to you is what were you trying to communicate by labeling them zionest. The point is not weather or not this group is a zionist group or what it means to be a zionest. The point is why did you feel the need to label them as zionest. To me this is very telling of your beliefs.
 

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Where does it show on that blurb that they oppose Zionism??

And as it shows in your cite, they are endorsing the Supreme Court's legal precedent --- how is that attacking Christianity??
 

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More intelligent? It's nothing but more sensationalist lies. She quotes Coulter as saying things that Coulter never said, same as Donny did, and same as you did. More of the same lies does not qualify as "more intelligent". Sorry.

What you and others fail to understand is that Coulter was actually quoting Hitler in that ''perfection'' only arises from conversion to Christianity which to Jews warrants a death sentence according to Torah law:

Coulter did a pretty good job of explaining what she meant. Quoting the Torah is even more ado about nothing. I also fail to see how this particular quote about serving other gods is relevant in any way anyhow. Thought I wouldn't actually read it and point out that you may as well have quoted mother goose, did you?

Hickory dickory dock, perfection = conversion = death sentence. :p

Nice try.
 

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this is the tape I saw:

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ADL_condemns_Coulters_antiSemitic_remarks_1012.html


Coulter does not apologize for saying the remark --- she is saying, ''I'm sorry [that you misunderstand]''. This is why the ADL hasn't excused her.

Evidently, you are conveniently misunderstanding as well.

Now, if you have a tape of her actually apologizing for using an offensive remark, show it to me.