Trial of polygamist "prophet" to begin in Utah

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By Alexandria Sage Tue Sep 11, 10:11 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The self-proclaimed "prophet" of a polygamous clan in an isolated desert enclave at the border of Utah and Arizona goes on trial this week in St. George, Utah, accused of arranging a marriage between an unwilling 14-year-old girl and her cousin.

Warren Jeffs, 51, is charged with two felony counts of being an accomplice to rape and could face life sentences for each charge. He has been in prison since his arrest in August 2006 after 15 months as a fugitive on the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Most Wanted list and has pleaded not guilty.

The Jeffs trial is the long-awaited crux in authorities' efforts to control the 7,500-strong enclave of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, or FLDS, in the twin towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona -- a dusty, red-rock area some 100 miles northwest of the Grand Canyon.

For years, the group that holds to early tenets of the Mormon faith, including polygamy, existed virtually free of outside interference from authorities, although exiled or escaped members reported crimes such as widespread welfare and tax fraud, underage marriages and sexual abuse.

But some three years ago, Utah's attorney general convened a task force to uncover crimes within polygamous communities, including abuse of minors and other sex crimes. Although polygamy is banned under Utah law, authorities say prosecuting so-called plural marriages is impractical.

Jeff's accuser, known as Jane Doe, was 14-years-old at the time of the arranged marriage in 2001. She testified in a preliminary hearing that she protested the "celestial marriage" to her 19-year-old cousin to Jeffs and family members, but ultimately acquiesced under pressure. She came forward to authorities after leaving her husband.

'WICKED' OUTSIDE WORLD

A secretive community that views outsiders with suspicion, the FLDS was strictly ruled by Jeffs, its president who took over after the death of his father, Rulon, in 2002.

The FLDS is a fundamentalist, break-away sect of the Mormon church and still holds to the early tenets of Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, such as polygamy. The Mormon church renounced plural marriage around the turn of the 20th century when Utah was vying for statehood, but it remains a thorn in the side of church, which has strongly come down against the practice still held by up to 37,000 in the intermountain West.

The FLDS believes its prophet's power comes directly from God, and marriages are arranged after a "revelation" by him. Women, who wear the long braids and dresses worn a century ago by the area's pioneers, are brought up to be submissive and taught the only way to reach heaven is through their husband.

Family trees are tangled by intermarriage, with unions between cousins or between young women and much older men common. According to authorities, a majority of residents in the twin communities receive food stamps or are on welfare -- fraud occurs when several of a polygamist's wives claim to be single mothers. The FLDS has controlled the communities' police force and local governments.

Described as a paranoid, manipulative leader who warned his faithful of the "wicked" outside world, Jeffs forbade television, the Internet, even after-school sports, and began exiling young male members of the community in 2004, reassigning their wives to other men.

Hundreds of male teenagers known as the "Lost Boys," have been kicked out in what authorities have called attempts by Jeffs to reduce competition for wives.

Prosecution witnesses are expected to include the girl, members of her family, exiled male critics of Jeffs, and former wives. The defense has listed some 70 people as possible witnesses, most of whom carry the last names of some of the FLDS' most established polygamous family clans.
 

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Leave it to religious nut jobs to take what should be a decision between consenting adults, and turn it into a cultist excuse to enslave, rape, and degrade young girls.
 

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I agree with Pierre Trudeau: "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation."

That said, a 14 year old is not a consenting adult. Up until 18 or 19, young people should be protected from adults. If I understand what happened in this case, she was forced to marry her cousin against her will, and consumate the marriage. Yes this guy should go to jail for his role in this girl's rape.

But I strongly disagree with making polygamy illegal providing the participants are consenting adults. For me that law imposes religious and moralistic viewpoints on people. I can see polygamy making divorce and child custody and survivor benfits more complicated, but not impossible to resove fairly. Also polygamy need not involve one husband and multiple wives. Laws regarding polygamy should not discriminate based on sex or even sexual orientation. There is no reason why a woman couldn't have a polygamous relationship with multiple husbands or involve homosexuals. All that should be required is a legal marriage contract or common law relationship.
 

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.......... There is no reason why a woman couldn't have a polygamous relationship with multiple husbands...........

8O Why had it never ever occurred to me that a woman should be able to have multiple husbands? Now that ya mention it, sauce for the gander and all........

but then again, I'm not sure that's such a great idea. I couldn't even handle one hubby at a time.

*gives head a shake*
 

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Polyandry {the practice of having more than one husband} has been tried in several cultures but it has never worked. The result in Tibet, as an example, is a culture that is very badly under-populated.

As for polygyny, I'm all for its legality. After all, contrary to popular belief, it is sanctioned in the Bible. In the Old Testament, we are given an example of 7 women proposing marriage to a man in Isaiah 4:1 (that's right --- it is a woman who is supposed to propose) as each comes with her own dowry. We are also given numerous examples of concubinage where a man may have multiple concubines and mistresses. This is a subject never over-ruled or discussed in the New Testament. On the contrary, Sarah, who selected mistresses for her husband, was upheld as the ideal wife.

To me, a state or other governmental authority has no right to outlaw these practices unless it can show a compelling interest in doing so.

As for the of coercion of minors, that's a completely different story so that the state can excerise police power to protect its youth.
 

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Polyandry (multiple husbands) isn't common, but it is the norm for this community:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4yjrDSvze0&mode=related&search=

Also during my travels in Canada's arctic, it was explained to me that in traditional Inuit culture, companionship was considered a basic human need, like food, clothing and shelter. If more women than men existed in the group, then it was expected that a man would take more than one female companion. On the other hand if more men existed than women, then it was expected that some women would take more than one male companion. The way it was explained, it sounded like a practical and sensible solution.
 

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Polyandry {the practice of having more than one husband} has been tried in several cultures but it has never worked. The result in Tibet, as an example, is a culture that is very badly under-populated.

Well in that case, maybe polyandry is a good idea. Seems to me like many of the world's most serious problems (war, pollution, poverty...) can be linked to over population, not under population.
 

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Thanks for the video --- as you can see, polyandry is a failed system that results in social and personal sterilization. As people in that society become more educated, they frown upon the practice which, as the video suggests, is on its way out of existence.
 

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earth_as_one said:
Well in that case, maybe polyandry is a good idea. Seems to me like many of the world's most serious problems (war, pollution, poverty...) can be linked to over population, not under population.


We have discussed Malthusianism on this forum in the past - a system that I have no belief in or respect for. The problem is not over population but profit maximization and improper use or directing of resources. But if that's the way you see it, then, so be it.
 

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Thanks for the video --- as you can see, polyandry is a failed system that results in social and personal sterilization. As people in that society become more educated, they frown upon the practice which, as the video suggests, is on its way out of existence.

I'm not so sure I agree with the author's bias or your generalizations. Seems to me this system has worked for countless generations. Fraternal polyandry means that there is effectively only one family unit. All the brothers share the same wife. The next generation of sons inherits all the land as a group and again all the brothers share the same wife. If it wasn't for fraternal polyandry, the land would be divided to the point where no one could live off the land. In this society, under these conditions, fraternal polyandry has resulted in stability and peace. No one forces the younger brothers to stay in the family unit, but most choose to do so.

What I can't figure out is what happens to the daughters?
 

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If the system has ''worked'' then why is it on the way out, especially because of education's impact?

Obviously, the people see that this system has no merit and that is why its days are numbered.

By contrast, polygyny has always existed, is thriving, and appears to be growing.