Crocodile Hunter Dies
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I don't really think anyone's death should be shown on TV, although i admit i have no logical reason to think that way
feronia said:
I agree that there is logic in death, but it doesnt mean that logic cannot be applied to what to do after someone's death. Don't get me wrong i'm not a ive and die by logic kinda vulcan, but i like to know what the logical thing to do is everytime so i can safely ignore it if i want to
Death in my opinion is subjective. But I'm told there's a set equation to death and even grieving.
1. Denial and Isolation
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance
(Elisabeth Kubler-Ross)
I know Terri has a strong family of support and I'm sure she'll be able to be strong for the children. I feel sorry for those who have no hands on support during times like these. It's a horrible shock to go through for anyone.
1. Denial and Isolation
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance
(Elisabeth Kubler-Ross)
I know Terri has a strong family of support and I'm sure she'll be able to be strong for the children. I feel sorry for those who have no hands on support during times like these. It's a horrible shock to go through for anyone.
Re: RE: Crocodile Hunter Dies
Death on TV is a constant ... both fiction and non-fiction. If you watch TV you see death. ~shrug~ Since this is the non-fiction variety, I'll keep to that side of the line.
I watch all kinds of forensic shows on TLC, A&E, etc. Shows lots of dead people. I have seen pictures and clips from the Iraq war, from the German death camps, etc. Most of the time the clips are used to fuel outrage. Airing this one is honouring Mr. Irwin rather than feeding our natural human urge to view something gruesome. He died as he lived. To me it's the final chapter in his very public life ... a life HE chose.
We watched his show because he did deal with dangerous creatures. If he was "The Bunny Hunter" I doubt he'd have gained the following he did. ("Crikey mate, it's doing the bunny kick! Look at me arm!") The fact that one of the creatures he made a million off ended up being his downfall is neither surprising nor all that sad. Geez, I'd love to go out doing something I live for! Hell, don't we all want to die that way?
Instead of being some voyeuristic thing (can you say St. Valentine's Day Massacre, Iraq warfare?), it's a goodbye for all of us to someone we spent hours watching on TV.
hermanntrude said:
Death on TV is a constant ... both fiction and non-fiction. If you watch TV you see death. ~shrug~ Since this is the non-fiction variety, I'll keep to that side of the line.
I watch all kinds of forensic shows on TLC, A&E, etc. Shows lots of dead people. I have seen pictures and clips from the Iraq war, from the German death camps, etc. Most of the time the clips are used to fuel outrage. Airing this one is honouring Mr. Irwin rather than feeding our natural human urge to view something gruesome. He died as he lived. To me it's the final chapter in his very public life ... a life HE chose.
We watched his show because he did deal with dangerous creatures. If he was "The Bunny Hunter" I doubt he'd have gained the following he did. ("Crikey mate, it's doing the bunny kick! Look at me arm!") The fact that one of the creatures he made a million off ended up being his downfall is neither surprising nor all that sad. Geez, I'd love to go out doing something I live for! Hell, don't we all want to die that way?
Instead of being some voyeuristic thing (can you say St. Valentine's Day Massacre, Iraq warfare?), it's a goodbye for all of us to someone we spent hours watching on TV.
There are a lot of moc clips of it on youtube. Also steeves documentary was played on the discovery channel.
Stingrays and skates
Marine envenomations in the United States and worldwide include those from stingrays and skates. Calls have come into the Philadelphia PCC during the summer months involving injuries inflicted from people accidentally stepping on the stingray or being slashed by the tail. The three most common stingrays are the round stingray, Urolophus halleri, found along the Pacific coast from California to Panama; the blunt-nosed stingray, Dasyatis sayi, found along the eastern Atlantic coast of North, Central, and South America and the spotted eagle ray, Aetobatus narinari, found throughout the tropical waters from the Atlantic to the Pacific.4
When stepped on, the ray strikes upward and drives the spine deeply into foot or leg. As the stinger enters the flesh, the integumentary sheath surrounding the spine is ruptured and the venom escapes into the victim's tissues.5 Stingray venom is one of the most powerful vasoconstrictors found among the natural toxins. It is primarily made up of protein and the extracts contain serotonin and enzymes such as 5’-neucleotidase and phosphodiesterase.4
The venom from a stingray can cause severe pain from six to 48 hours, with the greatest intensity of the pain within 30 to 60 minutes. Systemic effects of the venom can cause cardiovascular effects such as coronary artery spasm, hypotension, syncope and peripheral vasoconstriction.4, 5 It can also cause arrhythmia, respiratory distress, sweating, nausea, vomiting, weakness and abdominal pain.5 Treatment includes care of the wound, relief of pain, hot water immersion, observation and hospitalization in severe cases. Continuous hot water immersion of the wound for 60 minutes is recommended for relief of pain and is considered the standard of care. Tetanus prophylaxis and antibiotic coverage is usually required because these wounds are prone to infection.4
Marine envenomations in the United States and worldwide include those from stingrays and skates. Calls have come into the Philadelphia PCC during the summer months involving injuries inflicted from people accidentally stepping on the stingray or being slashed by the tail. The three most common stingrays are the round stingray, Urolophus halleri, found along the Pacific coast from California to Panama; the blunt-nosed stingray, Dasyatis sayi, found along the eastern Atlantic coast of North, Central, and South America and the spotted eagle ray, Aetobatus narinari, found throughout the tropical waters from the Atlantic to the Pacific.4
When stepped on, the ray strikes upward and drives the spine deeply into foot or leg. As the stinger enters the flesh, the integumentary sheath surrounding the spine is ruptured and the venom escapes into the victim's tissues.5 Stingray venom is one of the most powerful vasoconstrictors found among the natural toxins. It is primarily made up of protein and the extracts contain serotonin and enzymes such as 5’-neucleotidase and phosphodiesterase.4
The venom from a stingray can cause severe pain from six to 48 hours, with the greatest intensity of the pain within 30 to 60 minutes. Systemic effects of the venom can cause cardiovascular effects such as coronary artery spasm, hypotension, syncope and peripheral vasoconstriction.4, 5 It can also cause arrhythmia, respiratory distress, sweating, nausea, vomiting, weakness and abdominal pain.5 Treatment includes care of the wound, relief of pain, hot water immersion, observation and hospitalization in severe cases. Continuous hot water immersion of the wound for 60 minutes is recommended for relief of pain and is considered the standard of care. Tetanus prophylaxis and antibiotic coverage is usually required because these wounds are prone to infection.4
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you know nothing about him mate..
he was ordered by an Australian court to return some snakes to a friend of mine....he kept telling everyone if *** ******* asks for his snakes tell him they all died....yet we saw them on some of his shows......my friend helped his father get Zoo Australia started by donating a lot of the animals...my friend bred crocodiles and snakes and exotic birds and raised orphaned, sick, injured kangaroos and wallabies etc, as I did also
he was ordered by an Australian court to return some snakes to a friend of mine....he kept telling everyone if *** ******* asks for his snakes tell him they all died....yet we saw them on some of his shows......my friend helped his father get Zoo Australia started by donating a lot of the animals...my friend bred crocodiles and snakes and exotic birds and raised orphaned, sick, injured kangaroos and wallabies etc, as I did also
Okay, I'll suspend disbelief for a second. What is your Australian connection? Also can you really recognize a snake that easy? Needless to say Steve put on a good show.
That's kind of interesting. Surely though there exist other olive pythons. Are they so easy to recognize from on another? Anyway how did Steve Steal your friends snake?
my friend was arrested and put in jail on trumped up charges by a floura and fauna policeman who was caught in a bird smuggling racket..but rather than sack him he was promoted and went after my friend who was licensed to bred exotic birds from all over the world and crocs and other reptiles he had 2 breeding prs of olive pythons, both with babies one lot was confiscated and given to a top Australian zoo who managed to kill them all...and the other to irwin...anyway my friend had all charges dropped and was to be copensated for the stolen animals and irwin wqas ardered to return his which he refused to do...
on one of irwins "shows" he was sposed to be tramping thru the rainforest in FNQ when CRIKEY!! he stumbles across a baby olive python in some bamboo....which doesnt grow in the rainforests of Australia but it does at zoo australia
on one of irwins "shows" he was sposed to be tramping thru the rainforest in FNQ when CRIKEY!! he stumbles across a baby olive python in some bamboo....which doesnt grow in the rainforests of Australia but it does at zoo australia
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Is that why you keep addressing people as 'mate?' It's an odd usage to someone accustomed to North American style English and led me initially to assume you must be Australian, despite the Canadian flag on your posts.
I wasn't particularly impressed by Steve Irwin. I saw him too many times wondering why some poor critter was irritated with him as he kept poking it with a stick, and taking foolish chances with very dangerous animals. Any death at his age is a tragedy to those who loved him, but the manner of his demise was almost predictable: some day, one of those creatures he tormented was bound to get him.
bloody oath, mate! ;-)
I'm currently in Canada, asked about changing the little flag in the top to another I'd prefer to have there, but it seems it cant be done
I saw one of his tv "shows" where he picked up a little "slatey grey" snake and it bit him on the face....the next shot showed him going thru a book in the back of his vehicle with s'posed tears running down his face trying to find out if it was poisonous or not.....I think a 3rd grader would've known it wasnt.......