LOL loved the analogy Manda. Watch it I see Jim sneaking up in the rear eyeing your lolly pop Manada.
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congratulations! keep it up! 
there's a nicotine gum or candy isn't it? Just thought I'd let you know so that if ever you get that craving for some nicotine you can have one without any cigarettes
there's a nicotine gum or candy isn't it? Just thought I'd let you know so that if ever you get that craving for some nicotine you can have one without any cigarettes
JimMoyer
When you are at an "iffy" place google lung diseases and have a look at the damaged lungs of smokers.
They look like a piece of barbeque'd pork. Here's a handsome guy lookin fine and pink on the outside while packing black crap on the inside.
Aversion therapy is a shocker.
And take it from me - there is nothing more fightening than waking up some morning and trying to breathe - realizing you woke up because you
were unable to take that next inhale.
Mind fully awake and aware wondering if you could still get enough air into your lungs and when that was accomplished wondering if you were going to be able to get rid of the air to make room for more.
Crawling on your hands and knees to the bathroom thinking maybe water...which goes down a different tube..... and trying to yell for
help. They tell you in the E.R. - "gee we almost lost you"....
When some days you cannot navigate the rooms in your own house - and have to plan your "moves" without passing out.
In the final days lung disease insists on all kinds of medication inhalers, breathing equipment and anxiety pills to keep you from locking out if you go into a panic attack because your breathing gets off track for no reason at all - and you require a motorized mover to get around.
One turns out looking like an astronaut in training .... pretty much takes
away all the glamor and dignity of smoking....
And eventually isolation because you can't go anywhere, nobody wants to invite you because it is such a hassle for you - and your world shrinks to that of an elder in their last years.
I met so many good people like you over the years who loved that smoke and all the habituation which went along with it - to arm oneself for the day - for the next challenge - for that time out of R&R.... all associated with good things...good living....
Am begging you....win the struggle.... you have much more to share...and life to learn so you can teach us.
When you are at an "iffy" place google lung diseases and have a look at the damaged lungs of smokers.
They look like a piece of barbeque'd pork. Here's a handsome guy lookin fine and pink on the outside while packing black crap on the inside.
Aversion therapy is a shocker.
And take it from me - there is nothing more fightening than waking up some morning and trying to breathe - realizing you woke up because you
were unable to take that next inhale.
Mind fully awake and aware wondering if you could still get enough air into your lungs and when that was accomplished wondering if you were going to be able to get rid of the air to make room for more.
Crawling on your hands and knees to the bathroom thinking maybe water...which goes down a different tube..... and trying to yell for
help. They tell you in the E.R. - "gee we almost lost you"....
When some days you cannot navigate the rooms in your own house - and have to plan your "moves" without passing out.
In the final days lung disease insists on all kinds of medication inhalers, breathing equipment and anxiety pills to keep you from locking out if you go into a panic attack because your breathing gets off track for no reason at all - and you require a motorized mover to get around.
One turns out looking like an astronaut in training .... pretty much takes
away all the glamor and dignity of smoking....
And eventually isolation because you can't go anywhere, nobody wants to invite you because it is such a hassle for you - and your world shrinks to that of an elder in their last years.
I met so many good people like you over the years who loved that smoke and all the habituation which went along with it - to arm oneself for the day - for the next challenge - for that time out of R&R.... all associated with good things...good living....
Am begging you....win the struggle.... you have much more to share...and life to learn so you can teach us.
I was looking for an article I read that said
very appropriately that what you think, will be,
what you imagine, will happen.
So If you look as if you've lost your best friend
after quitting smoking, then you have.
But if you think of it as a wonderful matter
then it will be so.
very appropriately that what you think, will be,
what you imagine, will happen.
So If you look as if you've lost your best friend
after quitting smoking, then you have.
But if you think of it as a wonderful matter
then it will be so.
Have a good weekend everybody.
I am 50 years old, and it's finally about time
I get a schedule of coming events with the Doctor
today:
1. colon oscopy
2. penis gland check
3. cholestorol check
4. blood pressure check
Ask for Viagra.
Continue to eat Kiwi.
40 pushups 10 chinups. 50 reps of 35lb dumbells.
I am 50 years old, and it's finally about time
I get a schedule of coming events with the Doctor
today:
1. colon oscopy
2. penis gland check
3. cholestorol check
4. blood pressure check
Ask for Viagra.
Continue to eat Kiwi.
40 pushups 10 chinups. 50 reps of 35lb dumbells.
Good lord JimMoyer
Are you gonna go all healthy on us????
Colon.....thingy? Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwk
Forget the whole list and just have some great sex.
You aren't even near the need for Viagra
Are you gonna go all healthy on us????
Colon.....thingy? Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwk
Forget the whole list and just have some great sex.
You aren't even near the need for Viagra
Take a gander at the article below about gradually quiting smoking. This is my ninth month off the demon weed. Check it out below:
Quitting by Gradual Withdrawal
Quitting by Gradual Withdrawal
Quitting by the gradual withdrawal method. I discuss this method quite extensively in my seminars. I always tell how if there is anyone attending who knows a smoker who they really despise they should actively encourage them to follow the gradual withdrawal "cut down" approach. They should call them up every day and tell them to just get rid of one cigarette. Meaning, if they usually smoke 40 a day, just smoke 39 on the first day of the attempt to quit. The next day they should be encouraged to smoke only 38 then 37 the next day and so on. Then the seminar participant should call these people every day to congratulate them and encourage them to continue. I must reemphasize, this should only be done to a smoker you really despise.
You see, most smokers will agree to this approach. It sounds so easy to just smoke one less each day. Thirty-nine cigarettes to a two pack a day smoker seems like nothing. The trick is to convince the person that you are only trying to help them. For the first week or two the one downside is you have to pretend to like the person and you have to talk to them every day. They won’t whine too bad either. When they are down to 30 from 40, they may start to complain a little. You really won’t be having fun yet. When the payoff comes is about three weeks into the scam. Now you've got them to less than half their normal amount. They are in moderate withdrawal all the time.
A month into the approach you’ve got them into pretty major withdrawal. But be persistent. Call them and tell them how great they are doing and how proud you are of them. When they are in their 35th to 39th day, you have pulled off a major coup. This poor person is in peak withdrawal, suffering miserably and having absolutely nothing to show for it. They are no closer to ending withdrawal than the day you started the process. They are in chronic withdrawal, not treating him or herself to one or two a day, but actually depriving him or herself of 35 to 40 per day.
If you want to go in for the kill, when you have them down to zero, tell them don’t worry if things get tough, just take a puff every once in a while. If you can get them to fall for this, taking one puff every third day, they will remain in withdrawal forever. Did I mention you really should despise this person to do this to them? It is probably the cruelest practical joke that you could ever pull on anyone. You will undercut their chance to quit, make them suffer immeasurably and likely they will at some point throw in the towel, return to smoking, have such fear of quitting because of what they went through cutting down, that they will continue to smoke until it kills them. Like I said, you better really despise this person.
Hopefully there is no one you despise that much to do this to them. I hope nobody despises themselves enough to do this to themselves. Quitting cold turkey may be hard but quitting by this withdrawal technique is virtually impossible. If you have a choice between hard and impossible, go for hard. You will have something to show at the end of a hard process, but nothing but misery at the end of an impossible approach. Quit cold and in 72 hours it eases up. Cut down and it will basically get progressively worse for weeks, months, or years if you let it. I should mention, this is not a new technique. It has been around for decades. Talk to every long-term ex-smoker you know. Try to find one person who successfully used the cut down approach, gradually reducing to eventual zero over weeks or months. You will be hard pressed to find even one person who fits this bill. One other perspective that should help you see the flaw in the approach. Look at people here who had once quit for months or years and then relapsed. One day, after such a long time period, they take a drag and are smoking again. If one puff can do this after years or decades, guess what it will do after days or hours of being smoke free. It puts the smoker back to square one. All that any ex-smoker has to do to avoid relapse or chronic withdrawal is to - NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!
How many of the following exercises can everyone do ?
Pushups ?
Chin-ups ?
Walking ?
Running ?
Swimming ?
Pushups ?
Chin-ups ?
Walking ?
Running ?
Swimming ?
Jimm, I'll betcha your numbers are gonna be way higher than mine... I've not quit smoking... yet.
Chin-ups - 1 (and it's a shaky 1)
Walking - I can walk all day. Love it.
Running... different story than walking.. sprint about a block - may 2 or 3 if I was scared or mad - :lol:
Swimming - a couple laps comfortably, unless I'm doing a lazy sidestroke. (wait, does floating on my back count?)
soooo what are your numbers up to now that your lungs are all pink and shiny again? ;-)
but Tamarin... you didn't post your numbers for any of those exercises....
and what's your idea of 'real' exercise challenges anyway?
hmmmmm maybe we could measure the challenges in real-life terms:
How many stairs can ya vacuum?
How many loads of laundry can ya carry?
How many leaves can ya rake?
How many kids can ya coral in a playground?
How far can ya push a stroller laden with 1 child and 5 grocery bags over a gravel parking lot?
and what's your idea of 'real' exercise challenges anyway?
hmmmmm maybe we could measure the challenges in real-life terms:
How many stairs can ya vacuum?
How many loads of laundry can ya carry?
How many leaves can ya rake?
How many kids can ya coral in a playground?
How far can ya push a stroller laden with 1 child and 5 grocery bags over a gravel parking lot?
I swam and swam and swam all my life, so swimming a mile each day (64 lengths of a 25meter pool) is easier than the weight room exercises for me.
15 chinups each set, but can't seem to break it, so I put a 50 lb. backpack on and that helps increase it when I take it off.
70 pushups in a set. Generally do 300 total minimum a day averaging 40 a set.
Weightlift 30 lb dumbells on one arm.
It gives you a rush like your first cigarette of the day does, only better.
I like doing the chinups because it's all about carrying your own weight, and it's a lot of fun looking for anyplace outdoors to do a chin up on.
I am sincerely and most patheticly sick.
I'm having fun.
15 chinups each set, but can't seem to break it, so I put a 50 lb. backpack on and that helps increase it when I take it off.
70 pushups in a set. Generally do 300 total minimum a day averaging 40 a set.
Weightlift 30 lb dumbells on one arm.
It gives you a rush like your first cigarette of the day does, only better.
I like doing the chinups because it's all about carrying your own weight, and it's a lot of fun looking for anyplace outdoors to do a chin up on.
I am sincerely and most patheticly sick.
I'm having fun.
Well done for packing in smoking.
I'm ex-ex-smoker who has fallen down two times after night out smoking - similar to the chap who posted about cigars. Cold turkey is definately the way to go.
I'm ex-ex-smoker who has fallen down two times after night out smoking - similar to the chap who posted about cigars. Cold turkey is definately the way to go.