How can sage be a hallucinogen? What I mean is, how can it be injested in order to produce the appearance of pink elephants?
FDA Attempting to Regulate Supplements, Herbs and Juices as "Drugs"
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How can sage be a hallucinogen? What I mean is, how can it be injested in order to produce the appearance of pink elephants?
It is in Canada. I don't know about other countries, but it is legal to grow poppies. Um, I might add that one can use just about any poppy to produce opium. I like poppies but prefer to eat the seeds on buns and whatnit rather than smoke the pods or whatever they do to get high. Looking at them is cool, too. Just got a black variety, an apple green variety, and one red with black markings to add to my surroundings.
Im posting this here too because I dont want anyone saying Im off my rocker and being hypocritical. I know first hand the dangers of messing with the wrong herbals......BUT somethings are quieting like peppermint. If Im nausease I suck or drink peppermint. Now I cant take Valerium it interacts with my meds BUT i gave it to the kids to sooth them after a long day if they had troubles settling. Pediatrician agreed.
I'll lght a calming candle in the mean time Love.........I wish I was more learned.......but I dont want to risk giving the wrong advice
Ack Hermann!!! I can't believe I'm reading this from YOU! Most FDA guidelines are aimed at people who SELL the herbs, not at people growing them for personal use. FDA guidelines surrounding herbals are often aimed at keeping people from doing things like the mangosteen thread you just got angry with. Trying to market herbs as a cureall for a dozen different things under the sun, with no scientific basis.
CO2 and Oxygen have NEVER been marketed to me as a cure for fibromyalgia, yet almost every herb under the sun HAS.
Chronic illnesses are so often targeted by snakeoil salesmen looking to tell you their cure will fix everything. Right now, so long as it's herbs and not true pharmaceuticals, they can tell you just that, with no repercussions. I'm all for seeing desperate protected from that.
It wouldn't stop us from sharing our knowledge on the subject, so long as we're not trying to 'sell the cure'.
my point was that oxygen and co2 can be toxic and dangerous. More so than some herbs. So if they're going to regulate stuff rather than encourage a common-sense approach, they should start with the really nasty stuff.
fair point about the marketing though
fair point about the marketing though
I dont claim cure to anything but there ARE herbs that DO help symptoms......I dont talk ANYTHING without talking to my doc.
I'd agree that regulating food supplements, herbs, and juices as drugs is a little over the top, but according to the FDA's regulations, if you make health-related or medicinal claims about a product, that's the chance you take. If, for instance, you're going to claim that colloidal silver cures over 600 diseases (it doesn't, by the way, there's no good evidence it cures anything) you're claiming in effect that it's a drug as the FDA interprets these things. The same is generally true in Canada: claim therapeutic benefits for your product, you'd better be prepared to prove it.
Regulation in itself isn't such a bad idea though. These are processed products intended for human consumption; wouldn't you like some assurance that what you're getting is what it claims to be, in the amounts indicated on the label, and that it actually works? Without regulation there's no quality control. Stephen Barrett's Quackwatch site reports many instances of herbal products being tested and found to contain much less or much more of the product than the label claims, they're often contaminated with micro-organisms and heavy metals, some of them are known to have adverse drug interactions, and many of them haven't ever been properly tested for their supposed therapeutic effects. There's a lot of quackery out there in the supplements and herbs business, so be careful.
A little common sense is indicated too, though it seems to be lamentably uncommon sometimes. You can turn orange and poison yourself with carrot juice if you drink enough of it. Just because some of something is a good thing doesn't mean huge quantities of it are better.
Regulation in itself isn't such a bad idea though. These are processed products intended for human consumption; wouldn't you like some assurance that what you're getting is what it claims to be, in the amounts indicated on the label, and that it actually works? Without regulation there's no quality control. Stephen Barrett's Quackwatch site reports many instances of herbal products being tested and found to contain much less or much more of the product than the label claims, they're often contaminated with micro-organisms and heavy metals, some of them are known to have adverse drug interactions, and many of them haven't ever been properly tested for their supposed therapeutic effects. There's a lot of quackery out there in the supplements and herbs business, so be careful.
A little common sense is indicated too, though it seems to be lamentably uncommon sometimes. You can turn orange and poison yourself with carrot juice if you drink enough of it. Just because some of something is a good thing doesn't mean huge quantities of it are better.
Well, when the FDA's involved, it usually boils down to marketing. And I'm sure if someone started selling O2 claiming unproven health benefits, they'd be all over it like white on rice. It's their job.
I've heard of O2 bars, but they themselves make no health claim that hasn't been scientifically proven.
Most of them don't actually, because they know the consequences. Instead they rely on testimonials to spread the word, while carefully avoiding making claims that might draw regulatory attention.