Wyoming Priest Denies Communion to Lesbian Activist Couple “Married” in Canada
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I do think that they should be allowed to do whatever they want outside of the church. But I know that if I was the preist, I might feel uncomfortable giving communion to someone who I beleive to be unworthy of it. And the priest, being catholic, probably is uncomfortable. It is his beleif that homosexuals are wrong in the eyes of God, and sinners. So he doesn't want to give them communion. and if I were them, I would respect that and try to find somewhere else to practise their religion.
(by the way, I just read that last post, and It is as much his house as theirs, isn't it? )
(by the way, I just read that last post, and It is as much his house as theirs, isn't it? )
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His church isn't anyone's house. It's a place of neanderthal brainwashing. It's about as relevant to me as the KKK. I would send him a thank you letter for showing me the door and providing me the opportunity to get de-programmed.
So all of a sudden its unconfortable to continue giving them communion that they have been partaking of all along. hmmm And of course sinse its an uncomfortable situation its only right that the two lesbians shut their mouths and leave empy handed because the church is no longer comfortable giving them communion in a church they grew up in. Interesting. WWJD
according to your rules he has all the rights
He is preaching certain beleifs. they are openly promoting other beliefs. the members of the congregation are choosing to go to listen to him talk about one...well I guess you could say one interpretation of the bible. The lesbian couple have a different interpretation of the bible. If I was them I would just leave and make or find a church that uses their interpretation of the bible. The church was established to teach people about the bible as they interpret it.
It boils down to one simple issue.... should there, or should there not, be freedom of religion.
Should you, Self, be allowed to wear symbols of your paganism in public?
Should I be allowed to wear a cross around my neck?
Should Muslim women be allowed to wear their hijabs?
Should Jews be allowed to circumcise their sons?
Should Catholics be allowed to maintain an ancient belief that homosexuality is a sin?
You can't have one freedom without the others. Yes, we may not like a lot of it. But freedom of religion is freedom of religion. I wish the church would change. I do what I can. I talk where I can, I push where I can.
Should you, Self, be allowed to wear symbols of your paganism in public?
Should I be allowed to wear a cross around my neck?
Should Muslim women be allowed to wear their hijabs?
Should Jews be allowed to circumcise their sons?
Should Catholics be allowed to maintain an ancient belief that homosexuality is a sin?
You can't have one freedom without the others. Yes, we may not like a lot of it. But freedom of religion is freedom of religion. I wish the church would change. I do what I can. I talk where I can, I push where I can.
As I understand it, a religion, or cult if you will, lays out it's rules which are to be adhered to by the fellowship. One is under no obligation to join the cult and follow it's rules. (baptism and confirmation in the Catholic faith are not choices the child makes and therefore are null and void). If, however, one decides that a certain faith or belief system is in line with their views, they join and follow as a good little sheep do regardless of which cult they join. If certain aspects of the belief are not in line with a person's thinking then they should remove themselves from it.
Would you be so adamant in this stance of yours should I decide that certain Pagan beliefs are a crock of shyte, unfair or, immoral and thus force not only you, but the thousands of others who follow that belief to change the rules? I would think that some offence would be taken but according to your posts here, it should be no issue whatsoever.
Yeah but Karrie if those girls have been their all their lives and theyre just NOW saying take a hike quietly????? Thats not right nor christian.....I HATE it when bear uses the "N" word but thats what this comes to.......it sounds like Nazi germany........but you know me Love I fight for the lil guy even against the Pharasese
Oh, don't get me wrong.... eI'm not saying it's right, fair, or even Christian. But.... these women would have presumably gone through confirmation, and would have by then known, that the church's views are not ones that are good for them, or ones that include them. The church either has a right to maintain its beliefs, or it doesn't and none of anyone's beliefs are safe. It blows, but there it is.
Excuse me but i am only stating my beliefs and opinions, i'm not forcing you to agree. and isn't that what these forums are about? I'm sorry but I'm not going to "shut my mouth and quietly leave" because i am as entitled to my opinions as you are.
and I would like to add, that these women were a) not being public activists until recently, and
b) probably not lesbians (or didn't know it yet) when they joined the religion at a young age.
and I would like to add, that these women were a) not being public activists until recently, and
b) probably not lesbians (or didn't know it yet) when they joined the religion at a young age.
no no dear heart... she had said the lesbians were being told to shut their mouths and leave quietly, and restated that.... it wasn't aimed at you, I checked, because it seemed like an uncharacteristic thing for her to say.
Thanks Love
Its nice to know even if we dont agree on some things ......you always get me