Catholic Discussion

[look3467]

Where is this found in the Catechism, please? I ask because this thread title is not "AJ's Discussion", it is "CATHOLIC" discussion, so might I respectfully ask that you keep your odd theories to another thread.

No outsiders huh? Closed session? If everything is told you by one source, how can you know that source is correct? Perhaps a counter source may shed some light on that, don’t you think?

I’ll leave you guys alone then. Since nothing I say fits the disscusion.

Bye! I still luv ya though!

Peace>>>AJ:love9::love9:

 

[csanopal]

I'm beginning to think this: before globalization, we were all relatively tucked away in our cultural corners safely with our own traditions. We knew there were those that believed differently than us, we came into contact with them on occasion, but they were wrong in what they believed. And we were right. I mean, it's how we were all raised.

But now, we are a global society, without the luxury of being cut off from these other cultures. And it's becoming harder and harder to resist the temptation of not seeing similarities between, say, the teachings of Buddha and the teachings of Christ. And it's becoming harder to reconcile the teachings of Paul with the teachings of Christ.

Point is, claiming dogmatically that mine is the exclusive, true faith is looking pretty narrow and meaningless in this small world of ours. What do we do?

 

[m_levesque]

I'm beginning to think this: before globalization, we were all relatively tucked away in our cultural corners safely with our own traditions. We knew there were those that believed differently than us, we came into contact with them on occasion, but they were wrong in what they believed. And we were right. I mean, it's how we were all raised.

But now, we are a global society, without the luxury of being cut off from these other cultures. And it's becoming harder and harder to resist the temptation of not seeing similarities between, say, the teachings of Buddha and the teachings of Christ. And it's becoming harder to reconcile the teachings of Paul with the teachings of Christ.

Point is, claiming dogmatically that mine is the exclusive, true faith is looking pretty narrow and meaningless in this small world of ours. What do we do?

You can accept that there is One Church and Outside of her there is no salvation, or you can go your own way.

The teachings of Christ leave no room for personal opinions. Our Lord didnt become man to make everyone feel better about themselves. He came here to redeem us of our sins and lead us to eternal life. We are saved through the grace of God given to His Church.

 

[csanopal]

You can accept that there is One Church and Outside of her there is no salvation, or you can go your own way.

The teachings of Christ leave no room for personal opinions. Our Lord didnt become man to make everyone feel better about themselves. He came here to redeem us of our sins and lead us to eternal life. We are saved through the grace of God given to His Church.

Look, I know all this jargon. But it ignores my question: How can I know that this stuff is true? What about all the other great wisdom traditions of the world? Only partial truths, if that? How can we know!?!

It's all about faith, huh?

It is written that faith is a gift. But if you lose it, does that make God an Indian giver?

 

[m_levesque]

Look, I know all this jargon. But it ignores my question: How can I know that this stuff is true? What about all the other great wisdom traditions of the world? Only partial truths, if that? How can we know!?!

It's all about faith, huh?

It is written that faith is a gift. But if you lose it, does that make God an Indian giver?

At the end of the day, I believe in the totality of the Catholic Faith by the grace of God. I believe because the Church, in her venerable, two-thousand-year history towers above the rest, because Her founder, Jesus Christ, towers above the rest. What other founder of a (major) world religion transcends His own religion to the point that even other religions consider Him to be one of the greatest prophets that ever walked the face of the earth? What other founder of a major world religion sent out 12 apostles, known to this very day 2000 years later, all of whom taught that He was physically resurrected from the dead, body and soul, a teaching that 11 of those 12 apostles went to their deaths as martyrs witnessing to?

There are times when I doubt, even seriously, but everybody goes through these troubles. It doesn't mean you've lost your faith, and long as you continue to make that "fundamental Yes" to God with your whole being, even if at times it seems nearly impossible to have intellectual belief in your faith.

 

[marygaspe]

Has anyone meditated on the Seven sorrows and joys of our Blessed Mother? I just added them to my daily devotions for Lent.They are Biblically supported. Check out the verses.

The Seven Sorrows

1. The Prophecy of Simeon. Reading: Luke 2:25-35.
2. The Flight into Egypt. Reading: Matthew 2: 13-15.
3. The Child Jesus Lost in the Temple. Reading: Luke 2: 41-50.
4. Mary meets Jesus carrying the cross. Reading: Luke 23: 27-29.
5. Mary at the foot of the cross. Reading: John 19: 25-30.
6. Mary receives the body of Jesus. Reading: Psalm 130 (on NAB) and 129 on Douay-Rheims.
7. Mary witnesses the burial of Jesus. Reading: Luke 23: 50-56.


The Seven Joys

1. The Annunciation to the Blessed Virgin and the Incarnation of Our Lord. Reading: Luke 1: 26-33, and Luke 1:38.
2. The Visitation of the Blessed Virgin to her cousin, St. Elizabeth. Reading: Luke 1: 39-45.
3. The Birth of Our Lord. Reading: Luke 2: 6-12.
4. The Adoration of the Magi. Reading: Matthew 2: 1-2, and Matthew 2:10-11.
5. The Child Jesus Found in the Temple. Reading: Luke 2: 41-50.
6. Resurrection of Our Lord. Reading: Mark 16: 1-7.
7. Assumption of the Blessed Virgin into Heaven, and her Coronation as Queen of Heaven. Reading: Luke 1: 46-55.
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[BmOnline]

Testamony

Look, I know all this jargon. But it ignores my question: How can I know that this stuff is true? What about all the other great wisdom traditions of the world? Only partial truths, if that? How can we know!?!

It's all about faith, huh?

It is written that faith is a gift. But if you lose it, does that make God an Indian giver?

Here you can listen to one DVD about salvation and healing:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4568976851318013204&hl=en

How can you make us to think, its a fake? I belive, its just the truth.

 

[marygaspe]

Here you can listen to one DVD about salvation and healing:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4568976851318013204&hl=en

How can you make us to think, its a fake? I belive, its just the truth.

For me, no thank you.

 

[snfu73]

At the end of the day, I believe in the totality of the Catholic Faith by the grace of God. I believe because the Church, in her venerable, two-thousand-year history towers above the rest, because Her founder, Jesus Christ, towers above the rest. What other founder of a (major) world religion transcends His own religion to the point that even other religions consider Him to be one of the greatest prophets that ever walked the face of the earth? What other founder of a major world religion sent out 12 apostles, known to this very day 2000 years later, all of whom taught that He was physically resurrected from the dead, body and soul, a teaching that 11 of those 12 apostles went to their deaths as martyrs witnessing to?

There are times when I doubt, even seriously, but everybody goes through these troubles. It doesn't mean you've lost your faith, and long as you continue to make that "fundamental Yes" to God with your whole being, even if at times it seems nearly impossible to have intellectual belief in your faith.

The key words in your post: BELIEVE...over and over again. That is your BELIEF. That doesn't make it so. That makes it...your belief.

 

[marygaspe]

The key words in your post: BELIEVE...over and over again. That is your BELIEF. That doesn't make it so. That makes it...your belief.

He must know that, having written it? You have quite a hang-up about the Church,, don't you!

 

[marygaspe]

At the end of the day, I believe in the totality of the Catholic Faith by the grace of God. I believe because the Church, in her venerable, two-thousand-year history towers above the rest, because Her founder, Jesus Christ, towers above the rest. What other founder of a (major) world religion transcends His own religion to the point that even other religions consider Him to be one of the greatest prophets that ever walked the face of the earth? What other founder of a major world religion sent out 12 apostles, known to this very day 2000 years later, all of whom taught that He was physically resurrected from the dead, body and soul, a teaching that 11 of those 12 apostles went to their deaths as martyrs witnessing to?

There are times when I doubt, even seriously, but everybody goes through these troubles. It doesn't mean you've lost your faith, and long as you continue to make that "fundamental Yes" to God with your whole being, even if at times it seems nearly impossible to have intellectual belief in your faith.

Lovely post. I agree with what you state 100%

 

[sanctus]

He must know that, having written it? You have quite a hang-up about the Church,, don't you!

It is apparently his mission to insert negative comments in any Catholic releated thread he can find

 

[sanctus]

Has anyone meditated on the Seven sorrows and joys of our Blessed Mother? I just added them to my daily devotions for Lent.They are Biblically supported. Check out the verses.

The Seven Sorrows

1. The Prophecy of Simeon. Reading: Luke 2:25-35.
2. The Flight into Egypt. Reading: Matthew 2: 13-15.
3. The Child Jesus Lost in the Temple. Reading: Luke 2: 41-50.
4. Mary meets Jesus carrying the cross. Reading: Luke 23: 27-29.
5. Mary at the foot of the cross. Reading: John 19: 25-30.
6. Mary receives the body of Jesus. Reading: Psalm 130 (on NAB) and 129 on Douay-Rheims.
7. Mary witnesses the burial of Jesus. Reading: Luke 23: 50-56.


The Seven Joys

1. The Annunciation to the Blessed Virgin and the Incarnation of Our Lord. Reading: Luke 1: 26-33, and Luke 1:38.
2. The Visitation of the Blessed Virgin to her cousin, St. Elizabeth. Reading: Luke 1: 39-45.
3. The Birth of Our Lord. Reading: Luke 2: 6-12.
4. The Adoration of the Magi. Reading: Matthew 2: 1-2, and Matthew 2:10-11.
5. The Child Jesus Found in the Temple. Reading: Luke 2: 41-50.
6. Resurrection of Our Lord. Reading: Mark 16: 1-7.
7. Assumption of the Blessed Virgin into Heaven, and her Coronation as Queen of Heaven. Reading: Luke 1: 46-55.
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Thanks Mary! Good devotions. I personally don't use them much myself, but I know a few people who have benefitted from the meditations you've shared.

 

[m_levesque]

It is apparently his mission to insert negative comments in any Catholic releated thread he can find

That's why I'm ignoring his posts.He is on a one-track pro-homosexual mission. Why, who knows? I mean, what does he care what the Church teaches on anything if he isn't a member. Mystery to me, Father!

 

[m_levesque]

It's tradition for us to have fish and hot cross buns on Good Friday. I don't know where it comes from or what the significance of it is, all I know is that I have been doing it since I can remember, my parents did it and so on....

What traditions do you have on Good Friday, I know we're supposed to abstain etc, but is there anything specific you eat on Good Friday?

Better still, is there anyone else - anywhere in the world besides here in Montreal that has fish and hot cross buns on Good Friday, and if so, do you know where the tradition comes from??

I'd really like to know

 

[sanctus]

It's tradition for us to have fish and hot cross buns on Good Friday. I don't know where it comes from or what the significance of it is, all I know is that I have been doing it since I can remember, my parents did it and so on....

What traditions do you have on Good Friday, I know we're supposed to abstain etc, but is there anything specific you eat on Good Friday?

Better still, is there anyone else - anywhere in the world besides here in Montreal that has fish and hot cross buns on Good Friday, and if so, do you know where the tradition comes from??

I'd really like to know

Hot Cross buns have long been a symbol of Good Friday. Today they are sold in bake shops and supermarket bakeries throughout the Easter season. Each bun has an icing cross on top to signify the crucifixion.In England, they were once sold by street vendors who advertised their wares with cries of "Hot Cross Buns! "Hot Cross Buns!"
Their street cries became a nursery rhyme....
Hot cross buns!
Hot cross buns!
One a penny, two a penny,
Hot cross buns!If ye have no daughters,
Give them to your sons.
One a penny, two a penny,
Hot cross buns

Although they have been a Lenten and Good Friday tradition for centuries, Hot Cross Buns were not always associated with Christianity. Their origins lie in pagan traditions of ancient cultures, with the cross representing the four quarters of the moon. During early missionary efforts, the Christian church adopted the buns and re-interpreted the icing cross. In 1361, a monk named Father Thomas Rockcliffe began a tradition of giving Hot Cross Buns to the poor of St Albans on Good Friday.
In years that followed, many customs, traditions, superstitions, and claims of healing and protection from evil and were associated with the buns. In the 16th century, Roman Catholicism was banned in England, but the popularity of Hot Cross buns continued. Queen Elizabeth I passed a law banning the consumption of Hot Cross Buns except during festivals such as Easter, Christmas and funerals.

 

[sanctus]

It's tradition for us to have fish and hot cross buns on Good Friday. I don't know where it comes from or what the significance of it is, all I know is that I have been doing it since I can remember, my parents did it and so on....

What traditions do you have on Good Friday, I know we're supposed to abstain etc, but is there anything specific you eat on Good Friday?

Better still, is there anyone else - anywhere in the world besides here in Montreal that has fish and hot cross buns on Good Friday, and if so, do you know where the tradition comes from??

I'd really like to know

Fish is a traditional Friday meal, including Good Friday. My own personal observance is that I fast the entire day.

 

[mapleleafgirl]

i was reading online about the "catholic charismatic movement". it was a short article. does anyone know of what the movement is, how many people within the church are in it, what all countries are involved, how long has it been going on, ect?

 

[sanctus]

i was reading online about the "catholic charismatic movement". it was a short article. does anyone know of what the movement is, how many people within the church are in it, what all countries are involved, how long has it been going on, ect?

At the turn of the last century, the present-day Pentecostal Movement came into being, emphasizing "speaking in tongues" and "divine healing." Their failure to "rightly divide the Word of Truth" led to many false teachings regarding the ministry of the Holy Spirit and produced confusion in the minds of the saved and unsaved religionists alike. This Pentecostal Movement arose mainly from within various Protestant churches but they were soon forced out, either because of their unusual beliefs and practices or, in some cases, because they felt unhappy in churches which had become liberal theologically and worldly in position and practice. At least two things can be said for most of these early Pentecostals-they utterly repudiated the liberalism of the ecumenical movement and would not condone mixing the world with the church.
In the 1960's a new movement took shape, sharing the basic doctrines of Pentecostalism but advocating a "stay in" rather than a "come out" policy with regard to church affiliations. This movement is commonly known as the "Charismatic Movement." It involves not only various Protestant churches but Roman Catholic churches as well. In fact, if one is able to "speak in tongues" or if he has experienced a "healing," he is accepted by the Charismatics with little or no regard to his church affiliation or doctrinal deviation. When you hear Roman Catholics talk about how their "baptism in the Holy Spirit" has given them a greater love for the Mass, you know that this cannot be attributed to the Holy Spirit, but rather to a false spirit.

 

[DurkaDurka]

Fish is a traditional Friday meal, including Good Friday. My own personal observance is that I fast the entire day.

You don't like fish I take it?