O.K. Zan, I am finished saying what I had to say. I will leave this thread now but I invite those who have an interest in learning something worthwhile to keep in mind that there is much to talk about. As to my problem with CdnBear, I think I have made that quite clear now.
How I became Ohkwai
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You missed her point, obviously. You're just being rude. Yes, yes, yes, as a Catholic I have to contend with your type all the time. I have a solution, mind your own business and don't go to Mass with me. There's no need to drop in to attack.
You do come off harsh to say the least. But even Dex and Gilbert have respect for my beliefs for they are MY beliefs. Be my guest to start a thread about the Hoxes of religions but out of respect can you please allow us a small space to talk about our beliefs?
The vision quests of the type you described have a near universal history, there are many similar methods of meditation and experiance of the way or the one or the spirits. Sceptics abound but history prevails. I have started reading The six Worlds of the MicMac thier oral traditional power storys are facinating. What is hard to do though is to try and make yourself think like a MicMac of ten thousand years ago, or any of the ancients for that matter, when you remove all the cultural litter that we've all picked up from the here and now and try to think like an ancient with totally alien processes, it very quickly makes you understand how difficult it is to judge the experiances of the past or of past cultures with todays perspective. Certainly the mind is a complex thing and many old shamans new how to use it and how to teach with its power. My own experiance is fleeting and difficult to maintain because I'm lazy and soft but the power plants help with that, the world is not what we commonly believe it to be, most of what we percieve in learned and not necessarily real, even hardcore physics admits that. So for those in a hurry to discount spirts and power objects, don't be to hasty your own ancestors had different ideas.:wave:
Look hunny, I didn't attack your faith for starters and you started this whole shyte fest in the Israeli thread, with your silly insinuations and shy shots. I don't hide my words or my attacks, I'm no coward and I'm not one to shy from a fight, you have bitten off more then you can chew and have poked the wrong Bear. This childishness that you see, was brought on by you, and you have contributed to it with flying colours. Well that was an over statement, you have tried to no avail.
But I've been asked by a Mod not to go after you and as I respect her greatly I will do as she asked. She knows what I am capable of, you do not.
But I feel the need and though I probably shouldn't, I just can't fight it...
You have been unable to refute anything I have posted or answer any questions I have asked, so because you can not compete with me in the other forums, you took the shallow and cowardly ruit, the path of least moral resistance. It has back fired and you have been exposed as a bigot, "expsr". Even many of my detractors, will see you differently now. Though they may not agree with my politics, they see through the cowardice it takes to denegrate someones faith(though I have marched against the Christian faith, I have done so for personal reasons, not out a petty spat) out of nothing more then a petty inablity to put up a challenge in the political forums.
My brother I have faced men, who's hearts were filled with hate and their only wish was to kill me and my fellow Peacekeepers. This person is no more then a flea on my hide.
You continue as you were, I have broad shoulders and a strong back, lean on me.
That question never came up and I was being general. Hmmm are you imposing your intenet?
More tripe, got anything with some substance.
I always love how people who come off racist, suddenly develop Native, Black or whatever friends or have some of them in their family pool.
You have no other reason for being in this thread, other then pissing in my boot. And you still have the deluded gull to call me childish. Oh brother!!!
Me too lol but is fun tho, love the inuendo's, and counterplays. Hope it was good for you . going to smoke my cigar now.lol lol lol
This was where I had my last Vision Quest..........5 days a 2 mile hike into the backwoods
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It warmed my Soul more that you know. It was july/August and I just got home from England. It was the first place I could cry about my sons death. I'll never forget those days. I was forever touched by Goddess that Lammas