What is this? Dress up? Are we playing Barbies now? Where on earth did this comment come from? lol.
Why are you against Gay marriage?
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What is this? Dress up? Are we playing Barbies now? Where on earth did this comment come from? lol.
didn't you pichup the name from Austin Powers movie? he wore a ups uniform but itsaid FBD instead
It's not.
Reason, who the hell am I to impose my morality on anyone???!!! That's if I thought it was immoral, which I do not. Love is as love is, there is not a damn thing anyone can do about there sexuality or who they fall in love with. So sayth the cabbage!
Never saw the movie ...and I have had that nickname online for seven years and for fifteen years in the real world...I thought it was a pick up line.:laughing7:
yes I can see you in a bar hitting on a girl and her saying "get bent you basturd!".
You replying "Are you coming on to me?" lol
Welcome to my ignore. I really wish Andem had a way of showing the author of threads so Id stay out!
I wish this could be a discussion of CHRISTIANS, as it is in the Christian Discussion forum. And I dislike people who are not religious at all jumping in and calling us on "blatant idiocy" or "ignorant". If you wanted a general feel from people of faith, then go in the main Faith/Spirituality forum. But this is the Christian sub-forum, and it ticks me off when atheist/agnostic jump in and think they have to have to set things strait. If you guys want to do that, go back to the main political thread of this. But rawisbetter! put this in here because he wanted people of Christian Faith to discuss the issue.
To me, I think they deserve the tax benefits and everything else like that which can be found under the common law titled marriage. I believe marriage is a religious ceremony. There is nothing but RELIGION that says people need to get married. Others can choose this religious ceremony or get a contract between the 2 individuals who want to live their lives together. I consider marriage to be a religious ceremony, and civil unions/common law marriage to be for the gov./tax reasons. So how fair is it, to take a ceremony that is only required by religious groups to have sex and children, and open to people who are obviously not of that same thinking.
They deserve the same benifits, but not the same title. Way for gays to make themselves accepted. Society has come tolerate and accept them, but how does society feel when they make demands over a title and cause so much political bs (look at the Snickers commercial fiasco).
Besides that, its unatural (natural mating is between female and male), it devalues marriage to many people, puts priests in akward positions, and cause other religious conflicts.
So whats more important:
Keeping the tradition of marriage intact from over the milleniums OR
Altering this tradition to give others the same title, when under a different title they get the same benefits.
I am for option 1, and unless your a Christian, don't respond. If atheists/non-Christians want to debate this, copy the part you want to debate, and put it in the political-version of this thread.
Thank you.
To me, I think they deserve the tax benefits and everything else like that which can be found under the common law titled marriage. I believe marriage is a religious ceremony. There is nothing but RELIGION that says people need to get married. Others can choose this religious ceremony or get a contract between the 2 individuals who want to live their lives together. I consider marriage to be a religious ceremony, and civil unions/common law marriage to be for the gov./tax reasons. So how fair is it, to take a ceremony that is only required by religious groups to have sex and children, and open to people who are obviously not of that same thinking.
They deserve the same benifits, but not the same title. Way for gays to make themselves accepted. Society has come tolerate and accept them, but how does society feel when they make demands over a title and cause so much political bs (look at the Snickers commercial fiasco).
Besides that, its unatural (natural mating is between female and male), it devalues marriage to many people, puts priests in akward positions, and cause other religious conflicts.
So whats more important:
Keeping the tradition of marriage intact from over the milleniums OR
Altering this tradition to give others the same title, when under a different title they get the same benefits.
I am for option 1, and unless your a Christian, don't respond. If atheists/non-Christians want to debate this, copy the part you want to debate, and put it in the political-version of this thread.
Thank you.
No, I am just annoyed that Non-Christians/Atheists jump in and make judgements, when the thread-starter, was looking for a Christian point of view. They can goto the political version of this thread if they want to debate their aspect of it.
It just ticks me.. I want a discussion of Christians, as that is what the original thread intended it to be.
It just ticks me.. I want a discussion of Christians, as that is what the original thread intended it to be.
You do make a point! But perhaps a totally Christian forum would be your cup of tea?
What would you like to discuss...I used to be a pretty good Christian once apon a long ago.
I dislike you... from that other comment that offended me in that other thread.
No, I don't want a totally Christian forum. Then we would be all alike and that makes for nothing interesting.
But if you have your head in the clouds this is the Christian Discussion sub-forum. The owners of this forum made this sub-forum, so who makes it right for YOU to jump in and make judgments, when its a sub-forum intended for Christians to talk and debate.
See, what I mean people? Trying to throw us off track...
No, I don't want a totally Christian forum. Then we would be all alike and that makes for nothing interesting.
But if you have your head in the clouds this is the Christian Discussion sub-forum. The owners of this forum made this sub-forum, so who makes it right for YOU to jump in and make judgments, when its a sub-forum intended for Christians to talk and debate.
See, what I mean people? Trying to throw us off track...
Other than economic reasons; which don't really count (marriage is too important to allow people to marry for money), the only reason to get married is to have a children.
Gay people, typically, cannot have children together.
Therefore, there is no reason for gay people to get married. Marrying for money is not a good enough reason.
As for adoption or one partner getting pregnant? The one partner that gets pregnant already has a commitment from the parent and it's absurd to have 3 parents. Adoption is a big commitment, and gay couples can commit to raising an adopted child without the necessity of marriage.
That's why there is no reason for Gay couples to have the right of marriage ... they have no reason other than economic.
As for the emotional bond ... maybe they need to grow up and realize that plenty of heterosexual couples are quite capable of having the emotional bond (for life, I might add) without the trappings of marriage. What is wrong with Gay people that they cannot 'commit for life' without marriage?
If it's just a pleasant document to have ... it's not a good enough reason.
Gay people, typically, cannot have children together.
Therefore, there is no reason for gay people to get married. Marrying for money is not a good enough reason.
As for adoption or one partner getting pregnant? The one partner that gets pregnant already has a commitment from the parent and it's absurd to have 3 parents. Adoption is a big commitment, and gay couples can commit to raising an adopted child without the necessity of marriage.
That's why there is no reason for Gay couples to have the right of marriage ... they have no reason other than economic.
As for the emotional bond ... maybe they need to grow up and realize that plenty of heterosexual couples are quite capable of having the emotional bond (for life, I might add) without the trappings of marriage. What is wrong with Gay people that they cannot 'commit for life' without marriage?
If it's just a pleasant document to have ... it's not a good enough reason.
I dislike you... from that other comment that offended me in that other thread....In other words what you are trying to say is that you do not have the fortitude to debate your beliefs.
I understand, many people who are so devoted as you seem to have this type of issue.
fatbastard, I was directing that post to marygaspe, not you.
And marygaspe made comments saying I complain about everything. How do I "defend" that?
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And marygaspe made comments saying I complain about everything. How do I "defend" that?
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I'm atheist and I don't care what other people's sex lives are all about and I'm no better than anyone else so I won't judge people's behaviors unless they tick me off and homosexuals haven't pissed me off and trolls have pissed me off and being Christian doesn't mean being judgemental and being trollish anyway and as far as I'm conccerned anyone who wants control over someone else's life and sexual habits are trolls and making up for some inadequacy in their own life.
Howzzat for a run-on sentence.
Howzzat for a run-on sentence.
You have my honest apology...as to defending yourself i wouldn't worry about it ....it's the interweb it's not real.