How can we get rid of our sinfulness?

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MikeyDB

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Non-Catholics are just as concerned with facts as are Catholics good father...

All that walking on water....rising from the dead.....all those things you call facts....

You're such a good sport to rise to the challenge of defending mysticism and occultism...
 
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MikeyDB said:
Non-Catholics are just as concerned with facts as are Catholics good father...

All that walking on water....rising from the dead.....all those things you call facts....

You're such a good sport to rise to the challenge of defending mysticism and occultism...
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Your non-belief does not change one iota the reality of these events for the believer.
 
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Yeah and when's the last time you saw anyone walking on water...

Your "belief" that it's a fact doesn't make it a fact....

Anymore than a pagans belief that mistletoe wards off demons...same thought process at work...
 
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MikeyDB said:
Yeah and when's the last time you saw anyone walking on water...

Your "belief" that it's a fact doesn't make it a fact....

Anymore than a pagans belief that mistletoe wards off demons...same thought process at work...
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When's the last time you saw Australia? Yet you believe it to be there. One dosen't always have to see to believe, and regardless of your comments, I believe faithfully in Jesus.
 
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I've seen Australia...I've no reason to believe it's disappeared in the past twenty minutes...when's the last time you saw anything your "beliefs" tell you is fact....specifically when is the last time you saw anyone walking across the surface of the water....when is the last time your saw wine pouring out of a rock....when ....never mind....I understand it's enough for you to believe in these things and call them facts whereas the pagan doesn't have the moral authority of the Catholic church to translate their beliefs into fact....
 
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By the by...I have no doubt in your genuine belief....

I just think it's a shame that a relatively smart man can be so thouroughly and completely duped by his own insecurities...
 
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sanctus said:
When's the last time you saw Australia? Yet you believe it to be there. One dosen't always have to see to believe, and regardless of your comments, I believe faithfully in Jesus.
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Guess it's the arguemtn of seeing versus belieiving, eh? Makes sense though, you certainly don't always have to see something to believe it exists.
 
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Only someone insecure at the fundamental level of the fabric of their personal identity would choose belief over reason. When the world isn't the way you think it should be...I'll bet you pray to your god to fix that sore...don't you? This imaginary Harvey friend of yours, that's whom you believe will provide the guiding light your sinful wicked nature (which you were given by your creator by the way) requries...but unlike the Islamists there's no virgins waiting in heaven for you are there...?

Hocus Pocus left to itself is just fine with me...

Flooding this website with banal and sometimes voyuristic crap and then using it as a platform to sell your goods....entirely similar to the con the hoodwink...the bait and switch...and this is your morality.
 
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MikeyDB said:
Only someone insecure at the fundamental level of the fabric of their personal identity would choose belief over reason. When the world isn't the way you think it should be...I'll bet you pray to your god to fix that sore...don't you? This imaginary Harvey friend of yours, that's whom you believe will provide the guiding light your sinful wicked nature (which you were given by your creator by the way) requries...but unlike the Islamists there's no virgins waiting in heaven for you are there...?

Hocus Pocus left to itself is just fine with me...

Flooding this website with banal and sometimes voyuristic crap and then using it as a platform to sell your goods....entirely similar to the con the hoodwink...the bait and switch...and this is your morality.
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Yes, well thank you for your indepth anaylsis of my psyche. Having never met me,
I can only marvel at your abilities to discern what is going on in my mind.Bravo!
 
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The in-your-head church, I would imagine.
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That was close. Try going down and to your left a little bit, there you will find what is in the mind. A heart!
Your minds heart is where you are my friend. Who you are, what you are is detailed there.
Where ever your heart is, there will your treasure be.

Psa 34:18 The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.

Psa 34:18 -
The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart - Margin, as in Hebrew: “to the broken of heart.” The phrase, “the Lord is nigh,” means that he is ready to hear and to help. The language is, of course, figurative. As an Omnipresent Being, God is equally near to all persons at all times; but the language is adapted to our conceptions, as we feel that one who is near us can help us, or that one who is distant from us cannot give us aid. Compare the notes at Psa_22:11. The phrase, “them that are of a broken heart,” occurs often in the Bible. It refers to a condition when a burden “seems” to be on the heart, and when the heart “seems” to be crushed by sin or sorrow; and it is designed to describe a consciousness of deep guilt, or the heaviest kind of affliction and trouble. Compare Psa_51:17; Isa_57:15; Isa_61:1; Isa_66:2.
And sayeth such as be of a contrite spirit - Margin, as in Hebrew: “contrite of spirit.” The phrase here means the spirit as “crushed” or “broken down;” that is, as in the other phrase, a spirit that is oppressed by sin or trouble. The world abounds with instances of those who can fully understand this language.>>>Albert Barnes notes on the bible
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Peace>>>AJ:love9:


 
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look3467 said:
That was close. Try going down and to your left a little bit, there you will find what is in the mind. A heart!
Your minds heart is where you are my friend. Who you are, what you are is detailed there.
Where ever your heart is, there will your treasure be.

Psa 34:18 The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.



Peace>>>AJ:love9:
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Not really. Biologically a heart is just an organ that pumps blood. All emotions, etc, arise in the brain.
 
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MikeyDB said:
Only someone insecure at the fundamental level of the fabric of their personal identity would choose belief over reason. When the world isn't the way you think it should be...I'll bet you pray to your god to fix that sore...don't you? This imaginary Harvey friend of yours, that's whom you believe will provide the guiding light your sinful wicked nature (which you were given by your creator by the way) requries...but unlike the Islamists there's no virgins waiting in heaven for you are there...?

Hocus Pocus left to itself is just fine with me...

Flooding this website with banal and sometimes voyuristic crap and then using it as a platform to sell your goods....entirely similar to the con the hoodwink...the bait and switch...and this is your morality.
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Words from a man lost in the sea of sin and confusion, absent from the real truth of Christ.
 
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canadarocks said:
Guess it's the arguemtn of seeing versus belieiving, eh? Makes sense though, you certainly don't always have to see something to believe it exists.
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Heh heh. Sorry to throw a wrench into that, but at this moment I don't believe the sun exists because I cannot see it. It's night-time here. For me it is unnecessary to believe the sun exists. I know it exists and can prove it.
lol Kinda like I know this god thing doesn't exist. No belief involved. I can prove it, too, because a book told me. :D (Same tactic that the believers use to "prove" their god(s) exists: "the good book tells me so") ;)
 
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snfu73 said:
Sounds more like the words of someone who is pretty smart. He may have been a little harsh in his wording, but in many ways I agree with him.

Sooooo...what exactly IS the real truth of christ?
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dude just read the bazillion posts sanctus already made. we can't bear to hear it all over again.
 
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look3467 said:
That was close. Try going down and to your left a little bit, there you will find what is in the mind. A heart!
Your minds heart is where you are my friend. Who you are, what you are is detailed there.
Where ever your heart is, there will your treasure be.

Psa 34:18 The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.



Peace>>>AJ:love9:
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rofl
My mind is not a pump nor is the reverse true. Separate critters and neither contain any fantasy of the other. Yep, blood being aerated is a treasure; one that no-one can do without and yes, in that blood is my DNA which, of all the people in the world, only I have: it is me and it does detail me. ;) But there is no church in my pump, take my word for it.
Learn anything yet, or you just going to spew more prose? :D
 
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