Caution: Marijuana may not be lesser evil

[hermanntrude]

I'm saying that as an adult he's likely to be far more responsible about it than as a youngster. I'm not saying he should train kids to do it, or even let them know about it, but personally i think one should't "grow out" of using cannabis, as it's not a childish stupid thing to do, it's a mind-expanding, and enjoyable thing to do, but which needs a little responsibility.

 

[Tonington]

You are just playing with my words. I'm talking about most of us as teenagers tried or smoked pot, but when we become adults we should get over it and give it up. It's a bad influence on our young.

Au contraire. My father is a child of the hippy generation. A bad influence on our young is to shelter them from these things and then watch as these kids implode when they get their first tatse of independance. My father knew what I was doing, I even pinched of his stash. He provided my friends and I a safe environment. I'm sure that many out there reading this would call him an unfit father for buying our alcohol for us, smoking a doobie with us, but I would say those people don't know jack. We never got alcohol poisoning, never got mixed up in the trully hard stuff. It's amazing what having a role model who eminates moderation will do for kids. Think of those kids going out and getting mixed up in the wrong things, when my friends and I were always safe.

Now I hardly touch anything at all, I occasionally have a puff, have the occasional drink, got a little tipsy at Christmas with my cousins, beside that I'm busy studying. The puffing doesn't really affect my cognitive abilities, it does affect my pocket book though.

 

[RomSpaceKnight]

I very very recently sorta gave it up. No more chronic coming home from work and smoking. Will reserve it for very occassional weekend and fishing trips. Not near as much fun smoking alone as with buddies. Found it to be a mood enhancer. Having fun with buddies fishing cool. Come home stressed out from work and still dealing with grief issues after death in family not cool plus after heart attack need to be a bit more health conscious. Plus hate supporting the HA and Vietnamese gangs who have a good grip on grow ops. Would love to grow 4 plants for personal but fines are huge and now if you get caught good luck selling your house in future. Cutting way way back d only on special occassions will put fun back into it, hopefully.

 

[Vereya]

this is all nonsense. we all know the REAL drug problem in any non-moslem country is alcohol.

alcohol definately IS addictive, IS harmful, IS in widespread use, DOES cause deaths, DOES ruin families and IS legal.

cannabis MIGHT be a little bit addictive, CAN be harmful, but also has health benefits, ISNT very common, VERY rarely causes any deaths except in cases of extreme stupidity, ONLY ruins families when the use is young and/or stupid and the parents havent a clue how to deal with a problem (reactionist for instance), and ISNT legal, so why fight to make it illegal?

You said it, Hermanntrude! It is exactly my opinion on the issue. I saw such a lot of harm done by alcohol, and not a single harmful consequence of Marijuana. My own marriage was ruined by alcohol, by the way, so I really know what I am talking about.

And as for marijuana being a gateway drug, it is, in a way. I agree with it. But I believe that society should educate people, especially young people, concerning the impact of different substances. And the kind of education I am talking about shouldn't be restricted to what it is now - all drugs are bad, stay away from drugs, choose life, blablabla... This kind of thing is nonsense, at least because when you're told that something is really bad, it makes you want to try it. In my opinion the thing is to explain what different substances do, and how they actually affect your body and mind. There are beneficial substances as well, not only harmful ones.

 

[temperance]

"The systemic mishandling of medicinal cannabis is a crime, the only winners are the big corporations who stand to loose billions when it is again made available to those who need or want it.:wave:"

Exactly ,I remember my doc ,"Do you smoke pot" I was like what smoke pot no,well you should try it ,it will help with sleep ,pain and you might even get a break from the misery -

-The phrama companies have found a way to make money off our pain again !!@! I wont dare tell you the cost of these Meds(Cesemat ) ,compared to what you would pay from your local "man" I just cant bring myself to morally do it yet --if I had no insurance I may be forced to --


Guess this isnt the exact way you thought the post would go San ,

 

[temperance]

"You do realize that you are in fact talking about legalizing a medicinal herb used by Indigenous peoples long before the Europeans found that the earth wasn't the center of the universe, don't you?"

Which is the worst part, its been around for ever and use by Indigenous people who once again shared a great nature herb ,what happens Big Pharmacy companies take it rearrange a few things and make like they invented the best thing on Earth ---I

f we only viewed the earth as a circle, life would be so much easier

 

[canadarocks]

If you do anything every day for 14 years then quit cold turkey you will have withdrawl symptoms. Caffeine, booze, chocolate, sugar, mcdonalds, ANYTHING. So what exactly is this article trying to prove?

And for every person that tells their sob story about how pot ruined their life I can show you a person who is successful and uses or a person who will swear that pot saved their life. So their anecdotal evidence isn't going to sway me.

This article is a bunch od DARE propaganda bullsh*t. Anyone with half a brain can see through these scare tactics and pseudo science.

 

[gc]

If you are a risk-taker, willing to step outside the bounds of "normal" acceptable behaviour, then you are apt to try cigarettes, booze, grass, and harder drugs...........and grass is apt to be your first drug, simply because it is so available, thus it is seen as a "gateway".

Baloney. Drug use is a product of one's personality.

My first drug use was LSD, way back in the fall of '69. I don't think anyone would call LSD a "gateway" drug, but in my case you could claim it led to the use of a myriad of other pharmaceutical wonderfuls. (better living through chemistry)

I know lots of people that hold down jobs, have good marriages, and have smoked dope almost daily for 35 years. Is it good for them ? GOD NO!

But let's kick the nanny state the hell out of our business.

Well said.

 

[hermanntrude]

it's interesting to note that in a place with a higher-than-average IQ, ie here, there seems no doubt that marijuana should be legal. Is the government stupid or trying to make money, or both?

 

[csanopal]

it's interesting to note that in a place with a higher-than-average IQ, ie here, there seems no doubt that marijuana should be legal. Is the government stupid or trying to make money, or both?

Sorry, I doubt it should be legalized. We have enough problems now without adding dope to the factor

 

[DurkaDurka]

Sorry, I doubt it should be legalized. We have enough problems now without adding dope to the factor

How would legalizing pot create more problems? I think it would lessen some of the problems associated with it more then anything, ie. wasting tax dollars on prosecution of tokers.

 

[sanctus]

Sorry, I doubt it should be legalized. We have enough problems now without adding dope to the factor

Research increasingly shows that intensive marijuana use often meets the technical requirements for addiction (or dependence). Analysts use this as evidence of the need to maintain the drug’s illegal status. But the fact of addictiveness is irrelevant to legality – addictive drugs (e.g., cigarettes, alcohol) are legal and nonaddictive drugs (e.g., LSD, Ecstasy) are not. Indeed, the fastest growing category of illicit use is of legal, but controlled, pharmaceuticals – both addictive and not. Addiction is a sideline in outlawing drugs, a label applied conveniently by authorities and cooperating scientists in support of prior policy biases.

 

[hermanntrude]

tell me have you tried it? when have u known it to cause a problem?

 

[Tonington]

Problem, like when you run out of cheeze nips?

 

[sanctus]

tell me have you tried it? when have u known it to cause a problem?

Who? You need to start putting a subject in your posts;-)

 

[RomSpaceKnight]

Been of dope for 2 weeks now, no issues. Still get nicotine fits 9 months later. After heart attack giving up chocolate has been worse than nicotine. I cheat and sneak a very tiny bit of chocolate every now and then.

 

[hermanntrude]

i have attempted to give up chocolate before (i am an insulin dependant diabetic) and have always found that it only results in a binge, which is more dangerous than just having a bit every now and then

 

[RomSpaceKnight]

Cocoa is a better form. All the sugar and fats in a "milk" chocolate bar are the big issues.

 

[hermanntrude]

i generally go for the high cocoa content stuff cos i prefer the taste anyway. dark chocolate is hard to get hold of here. also decent cheese is non-existant here

 

[sanctus]

i have attempted to give up chocolate before (i am an insulin dependant diabetic) and have always found that it only results in a binge, which is more dangerous than just having a bit every now and then

My Dad is also an insulin diabetic. Have you tried diabetic choclate? (Though to be fair my dad says it tastes like cat pee)I have known people who liked it though.