Abortion is wrong no matter what! Part 2

TenPenny

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I'm 20 years old now and I found out less then 6 months ago that I can't have kids, I have endometreosis so badly that if I want kids the only way is having a surgery done and even then it's not guaranteed that I will be able to have kids. It pisses me off and depresses me alot to read of these 9-17 year old girls who have unprotected sex and have had 10-20 abortions and still have unprotected sex. If they really don't want to get pregnant then maybe they should either stop having sex or use protection.

First off, show me the evidence of 9-17 year old girls having 10-20 abortions. I call BS on this, except for some rare instances. It isn't as common as you make it seem.

Second, before you suggest that you know more than I on this issue, let me suggest you read my previous posts, and then let me tell you that, due to infertility issues, I have two adopted daughters.

Don't treat me like I don't know how it feels.
 

westmanguy

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Too much posts to read. Red first 3 pages.

Abortion wrong! I believe in pro choice only under certain circumstances.

A woman should ONLY be able to abort if she is:

forced against her will (rape, incest, etc.)
Mentally uncapable of grasping their actions (mentally challenged woman)
Not physically able to have the child in good health to her and the baby. (there is always a risk with having a child, but this is talking about someone who is not in any health to have it).

Who is it to us to judge the value of a life? It doesn't matter the circumstances its born into. Its a life and deserves the chance at one. Not because some woman got drunk one night, had a one night stand, and aborted.

Life is the uniting of the egg and sperm. Plain and simple. So unless a baby is forced upon you, your mentally uncapable of understanding the implications, or physicall unable, you should have that child.

You bear NO responsibilty to it. You can put it up for adoption, or put it in the social services system.

Yes this is not at all good circumstances for a new life, but they deserve to be able to live a life.

So that is my belief. And besides the point, with countless birth control: WHY?

We have condoms, birth control pills, birth control patches, etc. If your "under the influence". YOU consented to put yourself in that state of influence. If you have a mishap with your birth control, YOU consented to the risks of having sex. (now if someone tampers with your birth control, then thats not your choice is it, your forced with it, so then that goes under the Forced category).

I stand up for life. And if you consented to your actions, and become pregnant, then you complete that 9 months, and give the baby up and move on.

And someone else did this analogy, which I disagree: life with choice, or enslaved life. (i think thats right.. you get my drift). Your not enslaved to that baby. You carry it for 9 months and you can give it up. That is not enslaved, that temporary uncomfort.

If you consented to sex with the risks, or consented to having your judgement influenced, became pregnant, and aborted: you are a murderer.

Don't call me a church thumper: because the internet is swarming with a lot more secular liberals then traditional conservatives. In real life, their is alot of people with the exact same mindset on this issue as me. South Dakota is taking steps to outlawing it!
 

westmanguy

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That was a rude comment with no merrit to this rational debate.

I insulted no member, specific group, or specific person in my post. You are free to disagree, agree, and/or debate them with me, without insulting me.

You are inplying that, I ran to this thread, first thing, because I HAD to post in it. It was an intersting topic I saw, when surfing the forums, and I stated my opinion on the matter.

If you noticed I didn't bring religion at all into my post. I am a believer in Christianity, I won't hide that. But I find in the political scene, if I want to succeed I can't bring my religion into reference. Which I did not.

Please learn to respond, politely...
 

eh1eh

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That was a rude comment with no merrit to this rational debate.

I insulted no member, specific group, or specific person in my post. You are free to disagree, agree, and/or debate them with me, without insulting me.

You are inplying that, I ran to this thread, first thing, because I HAD to post in it. It was an intersting topic I saw, when surfing the forums, and I stated my opinion on the matter.

If you noticed I didn't bring religion at all into my post. I am a believer in Christianity, I won't hide that. But I find in the political scene, if I want to succeed I can't bring my religion into reference. Which I did not.

Please learn to respond, politely...

I apologise for my rudeness.
 
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westmanguy

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If you noticed in his post, he said "west,"

My name is westmanguy.

What am I missing?
 

Tonington

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Maybe Eh1 meant that the topic was sticking out to you, apparent with your gusto on the subject, much like the moth using light to navigate. It didn't appear insulting to me as a third party observer, but insults can't be evaluated in that way, regardless you got an appology, and post-haste I might add.
 

CDNBear

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That was a rude comment with no merrit to this rational debate.
No more rude then your asinine comments on First Nations people.
I insulted no member, specific group, or specific person in my post. You are free to disagree, agree, and/or debate them with me, without insulting me.
You insulted me, First Nations people, and me. I'm a member, they're a group, I'm a specific person. All in another post of yours, so your hypocritical indignation is BS.
Please learn to respond, politely...
Yes you should.
 

DurkaDurka

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Still looking for free proxies to download that won't screw up my computer.

go to start - control panel - network connections - open the properties for your ethernet connection then open the properties for the TCP-IP stack. Manually set your ip address to 127.0.0.1 close the windows and your good to go.
 

eh1eh

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go to start - control panel - network connections - open the properties for your ethernet connection then open the properties for the TCP-IP stack. Manually set your ip address to 127.0.0.1 close the windows and your good to go.

I'm glad you're so helpful Durka. It's nice to have an knowlegable techie on the site.
 

DurkaDurka

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I'm glad you're so helpful Durka. It's nice to have an knowlegable techie on the site.

I wasn't really being helpful there... 127.0.0.1 is an unroutable ip address, meaning it cannot communicate outside of his pc.

I am quite willing to help people with computer issues though. :)