No one in the building is allowed to wear hats. No one, in the name of religion, should be allowed to break the rules. Even teachers, the role models, are expected to follow the rules. How's that for breaking it down?
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No one in the building is allowed to wear hats. No one, in the name of religion, should be allowed to break the rules. Even teachers, the role models, are expected to follow the rules. How's that for breaking it down?
Well, when a teacher is at work, they are a government employee. We have that separation between religion and state. While you are teaching, any expression of individuality, in this case religion, can be seen as a promotion of certain values by the state. Teachers have a very narrow SOP in this case, and rightly so, that's the way our system is set up. Do any of you know any teachers? If you think something like OH&S is bad, try reading the tomes they recieve yearly in some cases (at least in Nova Scotia). These manuals are constantly being updated, informing teachers how they are to teach, what they are to teach, etc.
You're free to be an individual on your own time, or at work I suppose if your employer allows it, but not as a government employee.
You're free to be an individual on your own time, or at work I suppose if your employer allows it, but not as a government employee.
I disagee (and I'll do it without an attitude) if you take away one right you take away ALL rights. Hitler was a great example of all or nothing thinking.
A teacher is a role model for all not just some students. They must teach in a way that does not in any way shape or form promote personal feelings beyond the caring attitude most good teachers have. This is a goverment run institution. You don't like it home school your kids. You want your kids indoctrinated in to someone elses faith or how about the goverment tell you what faiths are acceptable.
Borders are falling all over the world. We are becoming a global village. All this crap about traditional western values is history. All countries are multicultural wether they like it or not. Goverments are trying to be inclusive not exclusive. The falling birth rate in the west demands that we open our doors to immigration to prop up our social programs and infrastructure. To attract first class immigrants we need to offer an inclusive and open culture or else all we will get is the low class ones. No doctors, no middle businessmen just dirt poor refugees.
This is the 21st century. Stamping your feet and saying "I'm not changing, make him change" will only get you past over by history. We are the driving force of evolution on this planet and we must evolve. We must go forward. Standing still to up hold the status quo will only give the Chinese the leg up they need to usurp the position of the west as the driving force in world culture. We don't evolve by the next century our children's children will be learning Cantonese or Mandarin so as to be able to land a good paying job.
Borders are falling all over the world. We are becoming a global village. All this crap about traditional western values is history. All countries are multicultural wether they like it or not. Goverments are trying to be inclusive not exclusive. The falling birth rate in the west demands that we open our doors to immigration to prop up our social programs and infrastructure. To attract first class immigrants we need to offer an inclusive and open culture or else all we will get is the low class ones. No doctors, no middle businessmen just dirt poor refugees.
This is the 21st century. Stamping your feet and saying "I'm not changing, make him change" will only get you past over by history. We are the driving force of evolution on this planet and we must evolve. We must go forward. Standing still to up hold the status quo will only give the Chinese the leg up they need to usurp the position of the west as the driving force in world culture. We don't evolve by the next century our children's children will be learning Cantonese or Mandarin so as to be able to land a good paying job.
Im sorry I cant buy into that. If I do I loose who I am to the masses. The coolest teachers I had wore Peace signs, Mason symbols and yes crosses. Taking religious rights away from people does not open boarders it slams them shut. Teaching kids there is nothing but what the government says there is isnt an open door policy its a match to light a bonfire
Then it is, by its own defintion, fair as a law. I believe France enacted the same conditions in its school systems a few years back. They are perfectly correct to do so, and in some ways it actually makes sense to me.
Our public schools, to a much minor degree, have done the same thing by promoting an environment that is not exclusive to the Christian religion any longer.
That was very well said and it is exactly the way it is. One of most important things students learn is to conform to the rules and do what everyone else is doing: their homework, listening in class, doing as their told, sitting still, not goofing around ... and the list goes on. I don't know why teachers would want a double standard where they can do their own thing while everyone else is supposed to conform to the rules.
Wearing a hat in school is not a right, it's a way for the students to hide and avoid eye contact.
Agreed. I wish we would do that in our public schools. I detest Muslims wearing those silly symbols of servitude. That's exactly what all that covering up is, an extreme form of chauvinism.
Just had a thought though, we couldn't possibly ban religious symbols in our schools since we have the Catholic school system and I hardly imagine them doing away with religious symbols in their schools.
Canadian schools used to have some Christian celebrations. What has happened is that the Christian celebrations have been dropped ... not the other way around where all religious celebrations have been included: exclusive, not inclusive. The schools are excluding everything religious.
Not all the schools here, the Catholic boards still are religious. My nephews go to Catholic school and it is very Christian orientated.
As for what you wrote about our public schools, very true. It made me quite made last year when my youngest came home and I saw he was studying Muslim holy days. I mean, give me a break. That's not fair to exclude his native religion in order to study the religion of others.He got in trouble once for bringing a Bible to school to do a project as his teacher said the bible would offend people.
in my school we have lots of muslims and the teachers and everybody goes out of their way to please them. makes me angry. i took to wearing a big crucifix for a well cos it irritated them. one of the teachers asked me to put it inside my shirt and i refused cos i said its not fair if they can wear their funny outfits and show off being muslim i can wear a crucifix. my mom actually backed me. i took it off after a few months cos i felt like a hypocrite cos i dont even know wha i believe and i certainly am not yet any kind of christian.
Public schools have eliminated everything religious. Private schools and Catholic schools can make their own rules about religious symbols and celebrations.
I haven't researched the origin of the Muslim head scarf but it wouldn't surprise me if it has something to do with head bugs like lice and maybe it's to discourage men from coveting other's wives (in it's original form) but in any case, it's not consistent with Western views.
There is absolutely nothing in the curriculum about learning the Holy days of other religions ... it sounds like the teacher was lost on some personal tangent, much like Jim Keegstra. I don't know what province you're in, but you can look at the entire curriculum for every grade online.
thats not true. i go to a public school. instead of one prayer our principal has five minutres of "spiritual readings" in the morning after the o canada. he takes stuff from all over the place, a few times from the koran and a few times from the bible, but mostly stuff from non religious sources i think.
im in ontario and we learned about ramadan and some jewish holiday that i cant remember right now, the one that comes around christmas.