Bush plot to merge Canada, the U.S. and Mexico

northstar

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I like Bush way better than Harper, at least he has stood up to the Terrorist Driven countires of Iran and Syria who are now playing nice, and helping to get troops out so they can use the weapons of mass destruction they have been found to be stockpiling...
the only reason people don't like him is because we are in a war, and darn if that doesn't interfere with our busy schedules!
it is just too darn inconvienant to have to deal with the nasty and grim realities of the MIDDLE EAST THREAT, and easier to try to blame ONE single individual...
 

Northboy

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U.S. legislator warns of Bush plot to merge Canada, the U.S. and Mexico

WASHINGTON (CP) - A U.S. legislator who backs tough anti-immigrant measures and more security at the Canada-U.S. border is warning Americans that President George W. Bush is plotting to integrate the continent. And he says Prime Minister Stephen Harper "buys into it." Colorado Republican Tom Tancredo, revered by some U.S. conservatives for his efforts to staunch the flow of illegal immigrants from Mexico, said this week that Bush is a dangerous internationalist.
"He is going to do what he can to create a place where the idea of America is just that, it's an idea. It's not an actual place defined by borders. I mean this is where the guy is really going," he told WorldNetDaily, a controversial conservative website.
"I know this is dramatic, or maybe somebody would say overly dramatic. But I'm telling you that everything I see leads me to believe that this whole idea of the North American union, it's not something that's just written about by right-wing fringe kooks," said Tancredo, who is considering a run at the presidency.

"It is something in the head of the president of the United States, the president of Mexico, I think the prime minister of Canada buys into it . . ."
Tancredo followed up with an interview on the conservative Fox News network, where he said the borders will lose all their significance, serving merely as "speed bumps" in the flow of goods, services and people.
In October, Tancredo demanded the United States suspend work on the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) signed last year by Canada, Mexico and The United States until Congress examines its goals and agreements, which include standardizing regulations and dismantling other barriers to trade.


The deal to collaborate on a wide range of trade and security issues is part of a larger plot to merge the countries in a European Union-like arrangement using a common currency, he said, with no oversight from legislators.
The congressman, who wrote a book on the border security issue called "In Mortal Danger," is one of four members of Congress who've signed a resolution opposed to a union or a free trade "superhighway system."
the only ones worried about closer ties between the three countries. A coalition of American conservatives is organizing a grassroots effort to make it an issue in the 2008 presidential race and vow to campaign against any candidate, Republican or Democrat, who won't side with them.
The movement was spearheaded in October by Howard Phillips, chairman of the public policy group Conservative Caucus, anti-feminist activist Phyllis Schlafly and author Jerome Corsi.
The group is calling for a congressional investigation into the SPP and full disclosure of all documents when the new Congress run by Democrats begins in January. They're getting support from the Minuteman Project that monitors the borders to deter illegal crossings, a group Bush has called vigilantes.
Supporters of the anti-union stand point out that a prominent three-country task force backed by Canada's business elite has promoted an elaborate vision of a common economy and security perimeter.
The plan, released last year, drew fire from some Canadians who saw it as a dangerous surrender of sovereignty designed to benefit big business.
Tancredo, who has often talked about the "porous" Canada-U.S. border, stirred up controversy last year when he mused on a Florida radio show that America could destroy Islamic holy sites like Mecca if there's another terrorist attack on U.S. soil.
While beloved by many right-wingers and immigration hawks, Tancredo was recently labelled one of the 10 worst congressmen by Rolling Stone magazine.
The publication noted he wants to deport every undocumented worker in the United States, a proposal that would cost at least US$200 billion, and has called for halting all immigration, legal or otherwise.

Comments?


And Where would the Capital be, Fort St. James, BC?
 

silky

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I like Bush way better than Harper, at least he has stood up to the Terrorist Driven countires of Iran and Syria who are now playing nice, and helping to get troops out so they can use the weapons of mass destruction they have been found to be stockpiling...
the only reason people don't like him is because we are in a war, and darn if that doesn't interfere with our busy schedules!
it is just too darn inconvienant to have to deal with the nasty and grim realities of the MIDDLE EAST THREAT, and easier to try to blame ONE single individual...

northstar, one of the most dangerous threats to the US is terrorists coming through our open borders which Bush refuses to secure, in addition, America is being invaded each day by illegal aliens from Mexico, South America, the middle east.

A modest assessment would be 20 million illegals and another 10 million anchor babies, you know a million here a million there soon we are talking a lot of third world uneducation, diseased, MS 13 gangs, and poor people who don't know or refused to learn english language, marching down the street claiming this is their continent, and we pilgrims should go home. All the while getting social services that bankrupting the taxpayers.
 

northstar

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I don't know much about the issue, except when l was in Texas l saw so many hanging out witing for work-crew busses to take them to do field work and construction, all which l suppose is cheap illegal labour sponsered by U.S. business owners.

So l will take your word on it, and say, yes, go tighten your borders and let the poor mexicans stay in their poor country!!!

At least you have a leader that is courageously facing the masses who insist that every conflict the world is facing in the name of ALLAH is the fault of one single person, PRESIDENT BUSH.

I say, Mr. Bush, just remember the MUHAMMAD, THE FIRST WORLD TERRORIST, is the source of hatred towards every Non-Muslim,

and as a proud NON-MUSLIM [and l kiss the ground in gratitude of not being born a Muslim},who knows that Muhammad was the first world terrorist,

l say Mr. Bush, I AM BEHIND YOU AND I SUPPORT YOU!!!!
 

Northboy

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I don't know much about the issue, except when l was in Texas l saw so many hanging out witing for work-crew busses to take them to do field work and construction, all which l suppose is cheap illegal labour sponsered by U.S. business owners.

So l will take your word on it, and say, yes, go tighten your borders and let the poor mexicans stay in their poor country!!!

At least you have a leader that is courageously facing the masses who insist that every conflict the world is facing in the name of ALLAH is the fault of one single person, PRESIDENT BUSH.

I say, Mr. Bush, just remember the MUHAMMAD, THE FIRST WORLD TERRORIST, is the source of hatred towards every Non-Muslim,

and as a proud NON-MUSLIM [and l kiss the ground in gratitude of not being born a Muslim},who knows that Muhammad was the first world terrorist,

l say Mr. Bush, I AM BEHIND YOU AND I SUPPORT YOU!!!!

I suppose that Fort St. James is out of the question....pity,
beautiful lake, forest and fresh air... A good setting for inspiration...
 

silky

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I don't know much about the issue, except when l was in Texas l saw so many hanging out witing for work-crew busses to take them to do field work and construction, all which l suppose is cheap illegal labour sponsered by U.S. business owners.

So l will take your word on it, and say, yes, go tighten your borders and let the poor mexicans stay in their poor country!!!

Northstar (aka: Polaris) :happy3:

The reason for the following post is to educate and inform the citizens of Canada that Mexico is also a threat to you. If the SPP aka NAU takes place the Canadian southern border will jeopardized as currently the US.

1. While it is true about half of the illegal aliens (20 million plus their anchor babies born in the US at taxpayers expense) come here illegally and about 3% work in the fields usually for one year, and then get jobs during the second year in the service industry for severly reduced wages taking away jobs from citizens, all the while renting a house where 5 or 6 families live in that was meant for 1 family. All because corporations are addicited to slave labor it is cheap and little paperwork. However, the cost of product does not reflect a reduction to the consumer, and can be seen in more profits to employers.

2. What you don't hear about is the damage done to our social fabric from the other half of 20 million illegal aliens.

A great many of them are criminals fleeing from Mexico, MS 13 gangs, drug dealers/smugglers, and the Reconquista types that think the southwest is their land and they protest in the streets for US citizens to leave ... and this is where I draw the line. See link: http://www.aztlan.net/homeland.htm the site: http://www.aztlan.net/

3. I came across another site today that list an interesting article: Government Not Tracking Illegal Alien Crime Even As It Spirals Up Many decent Americans will be outraged and shocked by FSM’s fourth-in-a-series of reports on illegal immigration and how it is contributing mightily to destroying America, as we know it, from within. Read this continuation of a truly riveting report on exactly what those in Congress who are not protecting our borders do not want you, the person who is funding all this crime and societal horror, to know.

Link: http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/homeland.php?id=486375

Another site I use daily that list all illegal alien articles and reports published that day is:
http://www.americanpatrol.com/
 

northstar

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Oh hmmmmmm....very interesting, maybe everyone should tighten up their borders. Great post and good points SILKY!!!! I hear you and now l am more informed.
 

normbc9

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The real issues are economic but think about the chances of finding out your job has been sent along with the industry to a foreign soil and now the "New Job growth numbers are in and yes there are 40,000 new jobs reported for this period." No statements as to what those jobs are, what the wages are or what benefits if any are provided. I have researched these questions and I found out that all of the jobs lost when big business moved their facilities to other developing nations were for the most part minimum wage with few if any benefits and the chances for advancement were few too. While some of this may be caused by economic position of those industries a lot more is caused by corporate greed. If this three nation union is allowed to develop I'll bet we'll see more of our industries move to locations other than within the boundaries of this so called SPP. Then what good is the benefits if there are nothing but low economic postions to occupy? This entire proposition in my opinion is not designed to benefit any of the middle class peoples. It is another move financed by wealthy interests to further solidify their personal economic position of wealth and power. The losers will be the workers.
 

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The real issues are economic but think about the chances of finding out your job has been sent along with the industry to a foreign soil and now the "New Job growth numbers are in and yes there are 40,000 new jobs reported for this period." No statements as to what those jobs are, what the wages are or what benefits if any are provided. I have researched these questions and I found out that all of the jobs lost when big business moved their facilities to other developing nations were for the most part minimum wage with few if any benefits and the chances for advancement were few too. While some of this may be caused by economic position of those industries a lot more is caused by corporate greed. If this three nation union is allowed to develop I'll bet we'll see more of our industries move to locations other than within the boundaries of this so called SPP. Then what good is the benefits if there are nothing but low economic postions to occupy? This entire proposition in my opinion is not designed to benefit any of the middle class peoples. It is another move financed by wealthy interests to further solidify their personal economic position of wealth and power. The losers will be the workers.

Normbc: New article today from WorldNet Daily regarding a interview with Pastor written by Corsi. Interesting dialog and it is easy to see the baby step approach and conditioning the people for NAU and golbalism. Heads up folks: a major event like 9/11 maybe in the near future for this continental blanket of the NorthAmerica Community/ Deep Integration / Eventually Union to take place.

THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
North American Union leader
says merger just crisis away
Leading intellectual force behind effort toward EU-style unity looks at future
Posted: December 15, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Robert Pastor, a leading intellectual force in the move to create an EU-style North American Community, told WND he believes a new 9/11 crisis could be the catalyst to merge the U.S., Mexico and Canada.
Pastor, a professor at American University, says that in such a case the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, or SPP – launched in 2005 by the heads of the three countries at a summit in Waco, Texas – could be developed into a continental union, complete with a new currency, the amero, that would replace the U.S. dollar just as the euro has replaced the national currencies of Europe.

In May 2005, Pastor was co-chairman the Council on Foreign Relations task force that produced a report entitled "Toward a North American Community," which he has claimed is the blueprint behind the SSP declared by President Bush, Mexico's then=President Vicente Fox, and Canada's then-Prime Minister Paul Martin.

At American University in Washington, D.C., Pastor directs the Center for North American Studies where he teaches a course entitled "North America: A Union, A Community, or Just Three Nations?" As WND previously has reported, Pastor is on the board of the North American Forum on Integration, the NAFI, a non-profit organization that annually holds a mock trilateral parliament for 100 selected students drawn from 10 universities in the U.S., Canada and Mexico.

Pastor had published an interview in Spanish in the Oct. 24 issue of Poder y Negocios. He told the magazine crises can force decisions that otherwise would not be made.

"The 9/11 crisis made Canada and the United States redefine the protection of their borders," Pastor explained. "The debt crisis in Mexico forced the government to adapt a new economic model. The crises oblige the governments to make difficult decisions."

This was the first time WND had found a major intellectual leader behind the push to integrate North America suggesting that a crisis of 9-11 proportions might be just what was needed to advance the process toward establishing a North American Union and the amero. WND reached Pastor in his office at American University and conducted a telephone interview to make sure the Spanish publication accurately reflected his views.

He affirmed the Spanish interview represents his thinking.

"What I'm saying is that a crisis is an event which can force democratic governments to make difficult decisions like those that will be required to create a North American Community," he said. "It's not that I want another 9/11 crisis, but having a crisis would force decisions that otherwise might not get made."

Pastor noted, for example that "Europeans, facing the crisis of two World Wars, turned to the European Community as a means to prevent war and advance their economic interests."

"The United States turned to the Marshall Plan when faced with the crisis of Western Europe falling into the hands of communism," he said. "So, I'm not advocating, or encouraging, or wanting a crisis, I'm only saying that in order to take important initiatives, sometimes one manner in which this occurs is when there is a crisis to which leaders need to respond."

Pastor told WND he lamented that the leadership of the three North American countries is not positioned to make the type of tough decisions needed to advance a North American Community agenda.

In his interview with Poder y Negocios, he argued, "Canada has a minority government and Mexico will soon have a minority government that will be confronted with what amounts to an uprising that we hope will be peaceful. The United States has a lame duck president whose principle preoccupation is the war in Iraq and instability in the Middle East."

Pastor further told WND Mexico's Fox made a tactical mistake by laying out an overly ambitious agenda to integrate with the United States.

"President Bush then took on the issue of illegal immigration, and it proved to be much more difficult than anticipated," he said. In the absence of strong North American leadership, is a crisis the way greater North American integration can be expected to happen?

"There are alternatives to a crisis for getting a major decision adopted by the president and by the congress," Pastor responded. "But what I am saying is that we lack the kind of North American leadership we need. Our founding fathers created a system of governance that was not designed to be efficient but was designed to protect freedom. Therefore, you created checks and balances that did protect freedom but also made it difficult to move forward on important issues."

Pastor was asked what North American leaders would need to do to move toward integration.

"We need to form a customs union to move North American integration to a new level," Pastor argued. "A customs union would eliminate rules of origin on the border and agree to a common external tariff. This would not be easy but not as difficult as NAFTA was, and it would lead to efficiencies in our economies and in the end contribute to a better standard of living for all parties."

Pastor also called for a North American Investment Fund to invest in Mexico's infrastructure.

"If we had a North American Investment Fund," Pastor explained, "over the long term, you would narrow the income gap between Mexico and the U.S."

WND previously reported Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, dropped his support for legislation (S. 3622) he introduced in the 109th Congress to create a North American Investment Fund after WND pointed out the proposed law would advance an important part of Pastor's agenda to create a North American Community.

Pastor was careful to distinguish that his proposals were designed to create a North American Community and that he never has proposed to create a North American Union as an EU-style regional government.

"What I am recommending is a series of functional steps that are more than incremental," Pastor admitted. "Each of the proposals I have laid out represent more than just small steps. But it doesn't represent a leap toward a North American Union, or even to some confederation of any kind. I don't think either is plausible, necessary, or even helpful to contemplate at this stage."

The idea seems to be to put new structures in place that change the look of the landscape. WND pointed out to Pastor that this step-by-step approach is the same approach taken to create the European Union. The memoirs of Jean Monnet, regarded as the architect of European unity, finally disclosed he had used a strategy of deceit, knowing his plan to form a European Union would never succeed if it were openly disclosed.

Pastor was asked if he thought a North American Union was a bad idea.

"No," he replied. "I don't think a political union of North America is an inherently bad idea, nor do I think it is a good idea for North America right now. I teach a course at American University in which I look at the different options for political integration of North America, and I put the options before the students."

Then why is a North American Union a bad idea right now?

"The reason the political integration is not a good idea at this stage now, perhaps never, is because of people like yourself who immediately begin to fear that their sense of America could disappear," Pastor responded. "Somehow, if you're fearful that America's sovereignty will disappear, you won't even take small steps forward. You just get mired in the status quo. The problem is that the world is moving very rapidly, and you can't stay competitive if you don't move."

Pastor did not reject the idea that a North American Union could form, but only after further continental economic integration and the development of a North American Community in which people are able to think as citizens of North America.

Is China the winner in the NAFTA super-corridors being planned for North America?

"If you define trade in zero-sum terms, China may be the winner in the transportation corridors," Pastor conceded. "But even in zero-sum terms, consumers benefit from the increasing imports that give them more choice and give them more quality. In the final analysis, we are all consumers."

Pastor affirmed he favors globalism.

"I believe," he explained to WND, "that globalization is a net plus for the world economy, for the middle class, and for all people."

Note from silky: Globalsim is only good for the elites who will rule. I see it as a redistribution of wealth, intergration of poverty to the middle class, loss of unique land and resources, in other words a dumbing down of the US and Canada.
 

northstar

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well all l know is that l will wait and see before forming an opinion...I like Canada with the border currently, even while we are letting in WAY too many people, and have a pathetic security system in place and a joke for a military budget...
 

northstar

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Silky, he is a little confuse north boy, and being from HOOTERVILLE [DUH...] he is a leetle bit shall we say, out of his element and doesn't know himself what he means....LOL!!!!
 

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There is secret legislation ready to be passed just before the new Congress takes over that will require every fifth word spoken to be in Spanish.

For example, you would have to ask a question like this.

¿What did you just comer?


Stop this madness!
 

northstar

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hee-hee-hee, tooooo funny, si, taco bell, si,antchilatta, pina colotta, es-spanyola, si, comprenda, si si, ....:toothy8: :toothy8: :toothy8: :flower:
 

EastSideScotian

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I dont deny it could happen...but it wont happen soon. Its not overly a bad thing as long as we are still Canada part of the NAU.....but its also sorta a bad thing because its a step towards a world government if you ask me...and no good can come from that.
 

normbc9

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EastSide Scotian, you're very perceptive. What I'm watching being carefully orchestrated by the Council on Foreign Relations is a world wide attempt to merge economies, immigration laws, trade policies and military resources. I fthey can get four or five Union like the EU they won't have any trouble merging the rest. Inch by inch anything is a cinch and this tactic has been employed since 1884 and had gone almost unnoticed. Who will be the Ceasar? Who will determine who will be the Ceasar? and Who will wield botht the economic and military power? I'll bet it won't be us, the workers. Our job will be to do as we're told, pay when they say pay and move when we're told to move.
 

silky

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There is secret legislation ready to be passed just before the new Congress takes over that will require every fifth word spoken to be in Spanish.

For example, you would have to ask a question like this.

¿What did you just comer?


Stop this madness!

So tell me Bull ... are you one of those denizens of Miami? To mandate every fifth word to be spoken in spanish would truly be an improvement in Miami ... they will have to learn some english for their first four words. Sounds like the Dems have been working on this plan since the election.

Your last line, "Stop this madness!" :banghead: now what madness would that be Senor Bull? (See I'm already starting to work on that new Dem Plan)