The Next Islamophobic Hate Thread

gopher

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`` killing other people's children``


You mean like this:







`` spreading like cockroaches``

Aha! An abortionist!
 

CDNBear

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Aha! An abortionist!


I'm not an abortionist, I'm a man, and in so being, I have no right to tell a woman what she can and/or can not do with her body. It's called freedom.

If you hate freedom, you are most welcome to move to one of the countries that you seem so intent on deffending.

Freedom has a price, you may not like the cost, but someone has to pay for it.
 

gopher

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`` freedom has a price ``


The great American philosopher Henry Demarest Lloyd had an answer for that bit of unwisdom:


The price of liberty is something more than eternal vigilance. There must also be eternal advance. We can save the rights we have inherited from our Fathers only by winning new ones to bequeath to our children.


Yes, silk stockinged right wing millenialist utopians may not like it but it sure as hell is true.
 

I think not

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`` killing other people's children``


You mean like this:







`` spreading like cockroaches``

Aha! An abortionist!

You do a piss poor job in defending the religion of peace. All you do is come back with an antithesis of events without explaining why fundamentalist Islam shouldn't be dealt with. When you have an answer to this question, I'll come back to this thread.
 

Chukcha

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`` killing other people's children``


You mean like this:

`` spreading like cockroaches``

Aha! An abortionist!
Yeah, spot on the great psychologist. How could one woman become an abortionist if that woman tried so hard for a baby, lost second baby at birth - is that good enough for you. Where does it sound like I am an abortionist, highlight it pls.
Gopher, your posts make me really ill, this picture just doesn't prove anything.
I just know what's going to happen next if I start posting pics like this in opposition, that would be endless conversation, eternity:) , because there are a lot of pics I can show you as well, only I don't think it would be wise of me.
 

gopher

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The problem is that you and others continually keep ascribing hate to Muslims but keep disregarding the hate crimes committed by your heroes in the "Christian" right wing. There is no doubt that there is Muslim extremism. But how can you condemn one without condemining the other which, more often than not, is FAR worse?????

And remember that Muslim extremism would NEVER have touched the West if it had not been provoked by Western imperialistic terrorism!
 

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The problem is that you and others continually keep ascribing hate to Muslims but keep disregarding the hate crimes committed by your heroes in the "Christian" right wing. There is no doubt that there is Muslim extremism. But how can you condemn one without condemining the other which, more often than not, is FAR worse?????

And remember that Muslim extremism would NEVER have touched the West if it had not been provoked by Western imperialistic terrorism!

Sorry but I threw out my "I'm sorry I'm a Christian white male in the west" t-shirt many years ago.

You still didn't answer the question. How should Islamic fundamentalism be dealt with?
 

Chukcha

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The problem is that you and others continually keep ascribing hate to Muslims but keep disregarding the hate crimes committed by your heroes in the "Christian" right wing. There is no doubt that there is Muslim extremism. But how can you condemn one without condemining the other which, more often than not, is FAR worse?????

And remember that Muslim extremism would NEVER have touched the West if it had not been provoked by Western imperialistic terrorism!
Are you saying it's ok to start revenging, proposing a murder for Pope Benedict, killing innosent with the slogan "infidel" because they not muslims, holding little kids as hostages to get to the point (whatever it is), holding these kids with no water and food for DAYS - and remember, these kids were innosent and a lot of them were babies. So, who do we blame in here, for killing those kids I mean? for killing those people in twin towers? for killing those kids and adults in trains in London? Really, who should I see as a murder, the fuc***rs or the government?
 

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The problem is that you and others continually keep ascribing hate to Muslims but keep disregarding the hate crimes committed by your heroes in the "Christian" right wing. There is no doubt that there is Muslim extremism. But how can you condemn one without condemining the other which, more often than not, is FAR worse?????

And remember that Muslim extremism would NEVER have touched the West if it had not been provoked by Western imperialistic terrorism!

Unfortunately, you are completely incorrect here.

If you look atthe most radical movements in Islam, you will find they promote jihad until the world is Islamic.

Some of course, are more moderate. They only want to re-establish Islam in all the world where it once was dominant.......including the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal)

(I do not wish to say all Muslims promote these ideas, just the violently activist ones)

To say radical Muslim terrorism would never have touched the west if we had not been involved in the politics of the ME is just silly.
 

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piss poor job of defending Islam

Actually, it is the hatemongers on this forum who are doing a terrible disservice to Christianity by defending its less than sterling history of imperialism. Millions of Muslims have been killed through Europe's invasions of ME or Islamic countries and nobody has objected to that here. Nor has anyone called for reparations or for restoration of goods that have been stolen as is required by Christian and international law.

A question was asked about how to do deal with radical Islam _____

A good start would be for the West to acknowledge its evil when it invaded. France today, for example, condemns Turkey's extermination of Armenians. But it fails to admit to its massacre of Moroccans, Tunisians, and Algerians.

France should apologize for its crimes, put the generals and pols (some of whom are still alive) on trial for murder and genocide, and to pay back the billions it stole from those countries.

Ditto for Russia whose campaign in Chechnya matches those of Hitler's in Poland {take a good look at photos of Grozny when Russia bombed it -- available throughout the internet}. And the same for all other Western imperialists.

That would go a long way towards easing East-West tensions. More can be done but that's a start.
 

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But Colpy

You didn't include governments that lie to you!

If we're willing to tolerate welcoming home black bags with the remains of our children who died defending our right to access to petroleum isn't that something that you should feel OK about tolerating too?
 

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Gopher

You've got this all wrong!

Islam and all Moslems all Arabs and everything to do with the Middle East is to blame here and there's absolutely nothing the west has done that would warrant reprisal....

George Bush says they hate us for our freedoms they hate us for our democracies.... Someone should tell our friend George that these folk know all about our freedoms and our democracies....

They know who's been paying the bills for Saudi Arabia, who pays the bills and proffers WMD to Saddam Husein when he's killing whomever they decide deserves death....

They're familiar with cruise missile attacks from American carriers and aircraft on Iraq and the Sudan and several other nations not directly named in the now famous "evil doers"...

Perhaps it would be Canadians and Americans who lack familitarity with the air war prosecuted against Iraq well before the invasion....

Perhaps it would be Canadians and Americans who've little idea what its like to live under the sanctions and embargoes imposed for no other reason than to build a case for murdering thousands upon thousands of Iraqis because enough stupid people were fooled into believing that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to world peace....based on stockpiles of weapons yet to be found!

Anyone who believes that the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan would have taken place had the perpetrators of the 09/11/01 tragedy been promptly captured and dealt with is out of their mind.

It wouldn't have mattered if Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were both locked in cages at Guantanamo from that date forward. The United States and Britain wanted a reason to wage war and both used fabricated out-of-date and entirely misleading "data" to support their manipulation of the United Nations to proceed with their already prepared plans for invasion. At least some American press associations have printed confirmation of invasion plans at the Pentagon immediately on the heals of the 1991 Gulf war and the British are so tied up in placating the U.S. administration that their own people are assassinating anyone who disagrees...

Tolerance has absolutely nothing to do with Colpy's view or Sassy's view or very many other folks opinions as presented here at Can Con.

Haters here are as thick as flies and the only respite given to anyone in Canada or the United States is that it's giving the homosexuals and the gun-nuts a bit of a breather while the right-wing here tries to build a case for savagery without remorse.

It's certainly been an eye-opener for me to witness the level of profound prejudice and baselessness of so many Canadians perspectives on Afghanistan and Iraq.
 

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piss poor job of defending Islam

Actually, it is the hatemongers on this forum who are doing a terrible disservice to Christianity by defending its less than sterling history of imperialism. Millions of Muslims have been killed through Europe's invasions of ME or Islamic countries and nobody has objected to that here. Nor has anyone called for reparations or for restoration of goods that have been stolen as is required by Christian and international law.

A question was asked about how to do deal with radical Islam _____

A good start would be for the West to acknowledge its evil when it invaded. France today, for example, condemns Turkey's extermination of Armenians. But it fails to admit to its massacre of Moroccans, Tunisians, and Algerians.

France should apologize for its crimes, put the generals and pols (some of whom are still alive) on trial for murder and genocide, and to pay back the billions it stole from those countries.

Ditto for Russia whose campaign in Chechnya matches those of Hitler's in Poland {take a good look at photos of Grozny when Russia bombed it -- available throughout the internet}. And the same for all other Western imperialists.

That would go a long way towards easing East-West tensions. More can be done but that's a start.


First of all don't go to history because you'll lose the argument before it gets started. You keep calling the lot of us hatemongers but I haven't heard your answer to my question. Once again you only provide an antithesis to events. I'll ask again.

How do you propose the west deals with fundamentalist Islam?
 

Chukcha

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Ditto for Russia whose campaign in Chechnya matches those of Hitler's in Poland {take a good look at photos of Grozny when Russia bombed it -- available throughout the internet}. And the same for all other Western imperialists.

That would go a long way towards easing East-West tensions. More can be done but that's a start.
Gopher, you're really well informed aren't you? Can I please ask you, why do you think russia should be chariting lands to everyone who wants it? Grozny was a russian owned land, chechens lived in the mountains, they were sort of like Gypsy, very uneducated and agressive nation. They were bunch of similar in language united tribes living in the mountains of Kavkaz, I can't even name them as nation, the only thing united these people was incredibly low level of education, offcourse I am talking about the Chechens who lived before the white/russian civilizators. They didn't have the ability to write, the language consisted of approximately 2000 words, expressing their thoughts without using words from other nation's languages is impossible, very primitive homegrown culture, rough cold weapons, clothes... well, in one word - savages. They appeared as humans in approx. 14th century, they didn't live in the plains, the plains were used by more advanced naighbours, therefore the tribes lived in their 'auls' - very primitive village, where they could defend themselves from the naighbours (from similar in kind). There were nations who bred with them later, mostly consisted of thieves, murders and swindlers, those refugees from other lands who escaped the judgement. The number one sport in their culture was thieving, the only other one was to compete with thieving was fishing. These two disciplines were the most effective business in their culture, much more beneficial than agriculture. That's why they have such good experience in this things. Their own poverty turnes around from their own anger and jealousy to more advanced and civilized naighbours. This is a short illustration for you for this hypotrophied rogues.
So I guess I don't have to explain that a country as such was not observed :) Later on Georgia was invitied to become a part of russia, and russia begun building the communication ways with Georgia and Armenia, which would be quite normal and natural. The problem appeared in such things as the transportation, as this is the main source of living of the local rogues and thieves, and Kavkaz appeared to have a hell of a lot of these kind. Chechens, like the most poor and barbarous were the worst of all. They were pacified in a very simple way - placing them along the plains (unoccupied plains, I remind you) Cossaks' settlements. That's how the Tersky cossaks ended. In some places their army forces was enough, but not in that part of land. The chechens begun to gather in camps (which were quite large in amounts) and attacking the Cossaks villages (salt, sugar and matches were quite attractive however). The russians had something in their plains which was also quite attractive to the chechens to have in the mountains, the luxury/ decorative items, weapons, slaves, and simply the gold and money. Back then the land was regularly occupied by the russian armies and there were military strengthened camps placed all around. One of the places was fortress Grozny, built by the General Yermolov in some forgoten by history year. Later that fortress surrounded by the other lands was the foundation of the town Grozny. The chechen attackers were drowned in blood, Yermolov clearly understood who he was dealing with, and showed the one and only understandable for the savages argument - power. Cruelty, bloody revenge, social responcibility. In the return for the attacking the russian lands the warriors carved out the nearest 'auls' to the root. So it didn't bring a mutual love, as you understand, but it saved a lot of russian people's lifes. This very opposition "we are - they are" then united local 'auls' under the slogan of hate into one nation.:rolleyes:
 
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"PWNED"

Yeah, good one.

As for being owned, it's the hatemongers who are owned once again.

The idea that Chechans were savages before Russians invaded and that their continued presence and barbarism there is good for Chechens bespeaks of American genocide among Native Americans. Who would be so cruel as to defend such barbarism?

It is most unfortunate that Hitler's defenders continue to insist that the Holocaust never took place. And, as anyone can readily see, modern day counterparts insist on the same thing about similar holocausts in Chechnya and the Middle East.