Iran War. . . USA Up 2-0 in the First Period

Ron in Regina

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They admitted that they had 400+ (kg? I'm not sure of the measurement used), to put on ballistic missiles that could reach not only Israel but Europe & the U.S. In an interesting conversation I listened to,
Well, sort of. If Iran used a ballistic missile, and instead of a payload of explosives (or a tiny explosive), they use that space/weight for fuel for that missile…they could reach a long ways…but they do have the range to reach the Strait of Hormuz from pretty much anywhere in Iran.
…they were talking about N. Korea and altho' they have nuclear weapons, they're not as threatening as Iran…
North Korea also isn’t being threatened in the same way because it doesn’t have anything that anybody wants for the most part, & it DOES have nuclear weapons.
…because they don't have religious extremists like Iran does.
Or pretty much anything else. It does have untapped wealth in the ground, but it’s untapped & in the ground.
These extremists value death over life which is the difference. And, Iran said they wouldn't hesitate to use them. Threat or not? Hmmm? Maybe they were just blustering, maybe not.
Who knows at this point, as there’s so much propaganda from every direction in this current goat rodeo/chapter of stupidity.
 
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U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday threatened widespread destruction of Iran’s energy resources and other vital infrastructure, including desalination plants, if a deal to end the war with Tehran is not reached “shortly.”
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On the ground, the conflict showed no sign of letting up: Tehran struck a key water and electrical plant in Kuwait, and an oil refinery in Israel came under attack. Israel and the U.S. launched a new wave of strikes on Iran.
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Trump’s new threat in a social media post and earlier comments in an interview with the Financial Times that suggested American troops could seize the country’s Kharg Island oil export hub highlight a frequent tactic. On the one hand, he has repeatedly said that talks with Iran are going well — though Tehran denies negotiating directly. On the other hand, he has continually ramped up his threats, as thousands more Marines and other U.S. troops pour into the Middle East.
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(YouTube & Iran reportedly letting ships through the Strait of Hormuz — for a price)

It remains unclear where the diplomatic effort facilitated by Pakistan stands. Iran’s attacks on its Gulf neighbors could add another element of uncertainty to any talks. The United Arab Emirates — which has long billed itself as a beacon of safety and stability in a volatile region — has been hard hit in the war, and increasingly is signaling it wants Iran disarmed in any ceasefire. Iran’s theocracy likely won’t accept that.
Trump says diplomacy is going well but suggests military expansion is possible.

In a social media post, Trump said “great progress is being made” in talks with Iran to end military operations. But he bristled that if a deal is not reached “shortly” and if the Strait of Hormuz (also now known as the “Strait of Trump” & a kill box militarily) is not immediately reopened, the U.S. would broaden its offensive by “completely obliterating” power plants, oil wells, Kharg Island and possibly even targeting desalination plants that supply drinking water.

Twice during Trump’s second term, the U.S. has attacked Iran during high-level diplomatic talks, including with the Feb. 28 strikes that started the current war.
 

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U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday threatened widespread destruction of Iran’s energy resources and other vital infrastructure, including desalination plants, if a deal to end the war with Tehran is not reached “shortly.”
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On the ground, the conflict showed no sign of letting up: Tehran struck a key water and electrical plant in Kuwait, and an oil refinery in Israel came under attack. Israel and the U.S. launched a new wave of strikes on Iran.
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Trump’s new threat in a social media post and earlier comments in an interview with the Financial Times that suggested American troops could seize the country’s Kharg Island oil export hub highlight a frequent tactic. On the one hand, he has repeatedly said that talks with Iran are going well — though Tehran denies negotiating directly. On the other hand, he has continually ramped up his threats, as thousands more Marines and other U.S. troops pour into the Middle East.
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(YouTube & Iran reportedly letting ships through the Strait of Hormuz — for a price)

It remains unclear where the diplomatic effort facilitated by Pakistan stands. Iran’s attacks on its Gulf neighbors could add another element of uncertainty to any talks. The United Arab Emirates — which has long billed itself as a beacon of safety and stability in a volatile region — has been hard hit in the war, and increasingly is signaling it wants Iran disarmed in any ceasefire. Iran’s theocracy likely won’t accept that.
Trump says diplomacy is going well but suggests military expansion is possible.

In a social media post, Trump said “great progress is being made” in talks with Iran to end military operations. But he bristled that if a deal is not reached “shortly” and if the Strait of Hormuz (also now known as the “Strait of Trump” & a kill box militarily) is not immediately reopened, the U.S. would broaden its offensive by “completely obliterating” power plants, oil wells, Kharg Island and possibly even targeting desalination plants that supply drinking water.

Twice during Trump’s second term, the U.S. has attacked Iran during high-level diplomatic talks, including with the Feb. 28 strikes that started the current war.
Did the regime change yet? Are they still Persians?
 

Ron in Regina

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Did the regime change yet? Are they still Persians?
Is the Persian thing relevant when it comes to the IRGC Regime? And no, neither have changed.

Based on recent surveys and reports from 2024–2026, a significant majority of Iranians, including the Persian majority, are against the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) regime, with roughly 70–80% of the population wanting to see a change in the political system, so not sure why asking if Persians are still Persians is relevant.
 
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Is the Persian thing relevant when it comes to the IRGC Regime? And no, neither have changed.
Why not?
Based on recent surveys and reports from 2024–2026, a significant majority of Iranians, including the Persian majority, are against the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) regime, with roughly 70–80% of the population wanting to see a change in the political system, so not sure why asking if Persians are still Persians is relevant.
Do you wholeheartedly believe that or you want to believe it or it's all the propagandists have given you to believe?
 

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It’s from an AI, but I’m sure you know different/better. What’s your take?
Yesterday from WSJ
The Iranian regime appears to be appealing to nationalist sentiments to recruit members of the Iranian population to help the regime maintain internal security. The Wall Street Journal reported on March 29 that Iran has launched a recruitment campaign called “Janfada,” or “Sacrificing Life,” to recruit volunteers to fight US forces in the event of a US ground operation in Iran, citing a text message sent to Iranian mobile users.

"Appealing to nationalist sentiments"...

The "regime change for the benefit of the Iranian people" narrative fell apart and now they're wrapping themselves with the flag and their culture.

WTF did you think was going to happen? Rainbows and balloon festivals?
 
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Seems “negotiations” are still going swimmingly. President Donald Trump warned on Monday that Iran's energy plants and oil wells would be obliterated if it did not open the Strait of Hormuz, after Tehran described U.S. peace proposals as "unrealistic" and fired waves of missiles at ‌Israel.
 

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Yesterday from WSJ


"Appealing to nationalist sentiments"...

The "regime change for the benefit of the Iranian people" narrative fell apart and now they're wrapping themselves with the flag and their culture.

WTF did you think was going to happen? Rainbows and balloon festivals?
Even if 70 to 80% of Persians are against the IRGC, they won’t be after Trump is done threatening to blow up civilian infrastructure, etc…so maybe we’re both right in this one.

"Great progress has been made but, if for any reason a deal is not shortly reached, which it probably will be, and if the Hormuz Strait is not immediately 'Open for Business,' we will conclude our lovely 'stay' in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their ‌Electric Generating Plants, ⁠Oil Wells and Kharg Island," Trump wrote.
 

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Even if 70 to 80% of Persians are against the IRGC, they won’t be after Trump is done threatening to blow up civilian infrastructure, etc…so maybe we’re both right in this one.

"Great progress has been made but, if for any reason a deal is not shortly reached, which it probably will be, and if the Hormuz Strait is not immediately 'Open for Business,' we will conclude our lovely 'stay' in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their ‌Electric Generating Plants, ⁠Oil Wells and Kharg Island," Trump wrote.
The game changed when 160+ school girls were murdered and skies blackened
 

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Trump also threatened to attack the desalination plants that supply clean water in Iran. Always a crowd pleaser in the winning hearts and minds column.

A Pakistani security official, whose country is trying to mediate in the war, said it appeared unlikely there would be direct U.S.-Iran talks this week.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Esmaeil Baghaei said Iran's parliament was reviewing a possible exit from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which recognizes the right to develop, research, produce and use nuclear energy as long as nuclear weapons are not pursued.

The White House said Trump was considering “asking” Mexico to pay for the wall Arab nations to pay for the cost of the war. "It's an idea that I know that he has and something that I think you'll hear more from him on," Leavitt said in response to a reporter's question about the idea.

Benchmark oil prices extended gains on Monday, with Brent crude futures on course for a record monthly rise.

The Houthis' attacks on Israel raised the prospect that they could target and block a second important shipping route, the Bab el-Mandeb Strait.

The oil market has all ⁠but discounted the prospect of a negotiated end to the war and "is bracing for a sharp escalation in military hostilities," said Vandana Hari of oil-market provider Vanda Insights.
 

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Trump also threatened to attack the desalination plants that supply clean water in Iran. Always a crowd pleaser in the winning hearts and minds column.

A Pakistani security official, whose country is trying to mediate in the war, said it appeared unlikely there would be direct U.S.-Iran talks this week.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Esmaeil Baghaei said Iran's parliament was reviewing a possible exit from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which recognizes the right to develop, research, produce and use nuclear energy as long as nuclear weapons are not pursued.

The White House said Trump was considering “asking” Mexico to pay for the wall Arab nations to pay for the cost of the war. "It's an idea that I know that he has and something that I think you'll hear more from him on," Leavitt said in response to a reporter's question about the idea.

Benchmark oil prices extended gains on Monday, with Brent crude futures on course for a record monthly rise.

The Houthis' attacks on Israel raised the prospect that they could target and block a second important shipping route, the Bab el-Mandeb Strait.

The oil market has all ⁠but discounted the prospect of a negotiated end to the war and "is bracing for a sharp escalation in military hostilities," said Vandana Hari of oil-market provider Vanda Insights.
Kiss what remains of Israel’s water, gas and electricity good bye. Maybe Egypt or Jordan will help Israel out?
 

Ron in Regina

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Kiss what remains of Israel’s water, gas and electricity good bye. Maybe Egypt or Jordan will help Israel out?
Maybe Trump gets reeled in by whomever can reel him in from these threats? It’s a horribly shitty negotiating tactic if that’s what it is, and the adults settle things?

Whether it’s Congress, or the Senate, or both, or the American voters, or there’s some other safety mechanism built into American governance (I’ve no idea)…
 

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Maybe Trump gets reeled in by whomever can reel him in from these threats? It’s a horribly shitty negotiating tactic if that’s what it is, and the adults settle things?

Whether it’s Congress, or the Senate, or both, or the American voters, or there’s some other safety mechanism built into American governance (I’ve no idea)…
This war is just as popular in US as the IRGC 30%.

The troops will be home by Christmas.
 

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Maybe Trump gets reeled in by whomever can reel him in from these threats? It’s a horribly shitty negotiating tactic if that’s what it is, and the adults settle things?

Whether it’s Congress, or the Senate, or both, or the American voters, or there’s some other safety mechanism built into American governance (I’ve no idea)…
There are four. . .

1. The Supreme Court can declare a given action unlawful or unConstitutional.
2. The Congress can impeach the President.
3. The Congress can also fail to fund whatever Presidential project it doesn't like.
4. The people can vote in a new President once every four years. (Trump is term-limited anyway.)
 

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There are four. . .

1. The Supreme Court can declare a given action unlawful or unConstitutional.
2. The Congress can impeach the President.
3. The Congress can also fail to fund whatever Presidential project it doesn't like.
4. The people can vote in a new President once every four years. (Trump is term-limited anyway.)
Can you envision any of the first three happening in the next two years, in a timeframe that would be relevant to the current situation?

Canada continues to import some foreign crude for eastern refineries, including from Middle Eastern suppliers like Saudi Arabia. However, during the March 2026 Mideast conflict (Iran crisis), Canada is primarily acting as a net exporter and stabilizer, releasing 23.6 million barrels of oil to help global markets rather than relying on imports…& locally yesterday, once I convert, I paid about $4.50USD per USG at the pump (for gasoline) here in Regina SK. It’s worse elsewhere but this isn’t good.
I’m literally sitting a few miles away from a heavy oil upgrader that isn’t refining crude from the Middle East.
U.S. President Donald Trump says nations upset by high fuel prices should ‘go get your own oil’ as Iran maintains its chokehold on the Strait of Hormuz for some reason. His comments in a social media post on Tuesday came as average U.S. gas prices shot past $4 a gallon.

U.S. strikes hit a city Tuesday that is home to one of Iran’s main nuclear sites, sending a massive fireball into the sky, and Tehran attacked a fully loaded Kuwaiti oil tanker in the Persian Gulf.

Trump warned this week that if a ceasefire is not reached “shortly,” and if the strait is not reopened, the U.S. would broaden its offensive, including by attacking the Kharg Island oil export hub and possibly desalination plants.
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The attack was the latest on merchant vessels in the strait, a vital waterway for shipping oil, since the United States and Israel attacked Iran on February 28, without consulting/advising any of their allies before hand.

LSEG Data showed the vessel was heading to Qingdao in China, and was carrying 1.2 million barrels of Saudi crude oil and 800,000 barrels of Kuwaiti crude, according to monitoring service TankerTrackers.com.
After earlier threatening to obliterate Iran's energy plants if it does not agree to a peace ⁠deal and open the Strait of Hormuz, Trump said in a social media post on Tuesday that countries running short of jet fuel needed to look after themselves, or buy from the U.S.