Greenland
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Interesting to know and I have no idea, and I assumed that Bubba was Bill “Bubba” Clinton but you learn something new every day here….anyway, Greenland.
Carney stands behind Greenland, calls for criticism of allies who resort to economic coercion — The Globe and Mail
Middle powers must stop pretending the rules-based international order is still functioning, PM says
Might be an idea to beef up security on Baffin Island for a bit. Maybe add a night shift.
Thinking it would be hard to tell the difference from Greenland once you were there and what difference would it make to the Chinese?
There was a DEW line station at Fox Bay back when, but unsure what is there now.
Thinking it would be hard to tell the difference from Greenland once you were there and what difference would it make to the Chinese?
There was a DEW line station at Fox Bay back when, but unsure what is there now.
“In proceeding this day to the signature of the Convention respecting the cession of the Danish West-Indian Islands to the United States of America, the undersigned Secretary of State of the United States of America, duly authorized by his Government, has the honor to declare that the Government of the United States of America will not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland.
Robert Lansing.
New York, August 4, 1916”
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Speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Wednesday, Mr. Trump reiterated his demand that Denmark allow the U.S. to annex Greenland – against the wishes of the semi-autonomous Arctic territory’s inhabitants – but for the first time, said he “does not want to” use military force to seize the island.
Mr. Trump said one reason he wants Greenland is to build his proposed Golden Dome missile defence system, which Canada is hoping to join. The President confirmed that the dome was “going to be defending Canada,” before laying into Mr. Carney.
“Canada gets a lot of freebies from us, by the way. They should be grateful, also, but they’re not. I watched your Prime Minister yesterday. He wasn’t so grateful,” Mr. Trump told the packed hall. “Canada lives by the United States. Remember that, Mark, next time you make your statements.”
Robert Lansing.
New York, August 4, 1916”
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Davos live: Trump rules out taking Greenland by force but calls for ‘immediate negotiations’ — Guardian US
Rolling coverage of the World Economic Forum in Davos, where the US president delivered a speech to world leaders
Speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Wednesday, Mr. Trump reiterated his demand that Denmark allow the U.S. to annex Greenland – against the wishes of the semi-autonomous Arctic territory’s inhabitants – but for the first time, said he “does not want to” use military force to seize the island.
Mr. Trump said one reason he wants Greenland is to build his proposed Golden Dome missile defence system, which Canada is hoping to join. The President confirmed that the dome was “going to be defending Canada,” before laying into Mr. Carney.
“Canada gets a lot of freebies from us, by the way. They should be grateful, also, but they’re not. I watched your Prime Minister yesterday. He wasn’t so grateful,” Mr. Trump told the packed hall. “Canada lives by the United States. Remember that, Mark, next time you make your statements.”
Question: Why should the US not take Greenland if the US wants it? Denmark took it when Denmark wanted it. I rather doubt Denmark asked the permission of the indigines to claim Greenland.
Why shouldn’t Israel “take” the West Bank? Why shouldn’t Putin “take” Ukraine? Why shouldn’t what’s-his-pickle “take” Taiwan?
Thought the rules changed about 1947 or 1949 or so I’ve heard repeatedly for the last couple of years. Maybe there is no reason now.
The rules are what they've always been, the Canon Law.
"He who has the cannon makes the law."
Noticing that 1 Danish krone is equal to 0.16 U.S. dollar.
If he sweetened the pot to par value with the U.S. dollar, it's something that could make a difference to Greenlanders.
If he sweetened the pot to par value with the U.S. dollar, it's something that could make a difference to Greenlanders.
U.S. President Donald Trump says he is backing down on his threat to impose tariffs on European countries over his demand to annex Greenland, after reaching what he called a “framework of a future deal” on the island with NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte???
If….if Greenland was for sale, which it’s not.
Earlier in a speech to the World Economic Forum, Mr. Trump ruled out taking Greenland by force but said he wanted to immediately start negotiations to purchase the Arctic island, which is a semi-autonomous territory of Denmark.
“We probably won’t get anything unless I decide to use excessive strength and force, where we would be, frankly, unstoppable. But I won’t do that, okay? Now everyone’s saying ‘oh, good,’” the President said.
“That’s probably the biggest statement I made, because people thought I would use force. I don’t have to use force, I don’t want to use force, I won’t use force.”
He added ominously: “They have a choice. You can say ‘yes’ and we will be very appreciative, or you can say ‘no’ and we will remember.”
Trump drops tariff threats against allies opposed to U.S. control of Greenland — The Globe and Mail
President announces a ‘framework of a future deal’ after discussions with NATO Secretary-General
Denmark’s Foreign Minister, Lars Løkke Rasmussen, said it is “positive that it is being said that military force will not be used. But it does not make this matter go away.”
Mr. Rasmussen made it clear that the Danish government was not going to negotiate the sale of Greenland, which isn’t for sale, but he said it was open to discussing increased Arctic security through NATO. “We do not start any negotiations on the basis that we give up on basic principles. We will never get to that,” he told reporters.
EU leaders plan to still go ahead with an emergency summit on Thursday to discuss Greenland. In comments earlier on Wednesday, António Costa, who heads the European Council, which represents leaders from the 27 member states, said the EU stood ready “to defend ourselves, our member states, our citizens, our companies, against any form of coercion.”
“And the European Union has the power and the tools to do so,” he added.
"Without us, right now you'd all be speaking German," President Donald Trump told his audience at the World Economic Forum in the Swiss Alps on Wednesday.
He may well have forgotten (or never known) German is the most widely spoken of the four official languages in Switzerland.
Many people – from Brussels to Berlin to Paris – will have found his speech to be insulting, overbearing and inaccurate.
Anyway, Greenland, even if Trump keeps his word, the fundamental problem remains that he wants a piece of land the owners say is not for sale.
Trump's jibes are wearing thin for many of Europe's leaders — BBC News
The ball is in the court of European leaders ahead of Thursday's emergency EU meeting in Brussels, writes Nick Beake.
Trump hails ‘framework’ of Greenland deal, reversing tariff threats — The Washington Post
The announcement was the latest head-spinning twist in his effort to seize Greenland from Denmark despite Danish and Greenlandic objections that the island is not for sale.
He spoke for more than an hour, weaving from the economy to nostalgia for the age of European imperialism and the backlash to his immigration crackdown in Minnesota during his second speech in as many days defending policies that have struggled to gain traction at home and abroad.
The fallout was swift. Shortly after his remarks concluded, the European Parliament suspended ratification of the E.U.-U.S. trade deal that Trump reached last year. In a statement, Bernd Lange, chair of the legislative trade committee, said U.S. threats against Denmark and Greenland left lawmakers no choice.
“By threatening the territorial integrity and sovereignty of an E.U. member state and by using tariffs as a coercive instrument, the U.S. is undermining the stability and predictability of E.U.-U.S. trade relations.”
Trump declaration of Greenland framework deal met with scepticism as doubts persist — Guardian US
Nato chief Mark Rutte says there is ‘a lot of work to be done’, as some Danish MPs voice concern at Greenland apparently being sidelined in US president’s talks
The United States “could” be given a form of sovereignty over military bases in Greenland and access to minerals located on the sites as part of a deal to satisfy Donald Trump’s intense desire to own the island, several media outlets have reported. However, Denmark’s Prime Minister has ruled out any negotiations concerning sovereignty.
The U.S. and Denmark have a long-standing defence arrangement that allows Washington to send troops to Greenland, so long as it notifies its NATO ally. During the Cold War, the U.S. stationed around 10,000 troops at 17 bases in Greenland. That number has dwindled to less than 200 at one installation.
On Thursday, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen rejected any proposal that relinquished Denmark’s sovereignty over Greenland. “NATO is fully aware of the position of the Kingdom of Denmark. We can negotiate on everything political: security, investments, economy. But we cannot negotiate on our sovereignty.
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I have been informed that this has not been the case either,” Ms. Frederiksen said in a statement. “And of course, only Denmark and Greenland themselves can make decisions on issues concerning Denmark and Greenland.”
The U.S. President announced on Wednesday that a framework agreement on Greenland had been reached after he met with NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte in Davos, Switzerland. Mr. Trump also said he would drop his threat to impose additional tariffs on NATO allies that opposed his plan to buy Greenland, a self-governing part of Denmark.
A NATO spokeswoman said Mr. Rutte did not propose any compromise on sovereignty during his discussions with Mr. Trump. Hours later, Trump announced on social media that he and Mr. Rutte had “formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland.”
The U.S. and Denmark have a long-standing defence arrangement that allows Washington to send troops to Greenland, so long as it notifies its NATO ally. During the Cold War, the U.S. stationed around 10,000 troops at 17 bases in Greenland. That number has dwindled to less than 200 at one installation.
On Thursday, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen rejected any proposal that relinquished Denmark’s sovereignty over Greenland. “NATO is fully aware of the position of the Kingdom of Denmark. We can negotiate on everything political: security, investments, economy. But we cannot negotiate on our sovereignty.
Trump’s Greenland deal could include U.S. sovereignty over military bases, mineral rights — The Globe and Mail
Danish PM says Denmark rejects any proposal that relinquishes its sovereignty over Greenland
The U.S. President announced on Wednesday that a framework agreement on Greenland had been reached after he met with NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte in Davos, Switzerland. Mr. Trump also said he would drop his threat to impose additional tariffs on NATO allies that opposed his plan to buy Greenland, a self-governing part of Denmark.
A NATO spokeswoman said Mr. Rutte did not propose any compromise on sovereignty during his discussions with Mr. Trump. Hours later, Trump announced on social media that he and Mr. Rutte had “formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland.”
Some of Donald Trump’s biggest campaign donors and investors, who collectively have hundreds of millions of dollars in financial ties to the US president, are positioned to potentially profit from any American takeover of Greenland, raising even more ethical questions around Trump’s controversial pursuit of the Arctic territory.
BlackRock specifically holds significant stakes in companies with Greenland interests, notably as a major institutional investor in Critical Metals Corp, which has mining permits (like for rare earths) in Greenland, alongside other firms like Vanguard and Cantor Fitzgerald, showing indirect but substantial involvement in Greenland's mining potential, though direct BlackRock property isn't the focus.
A Guardian analysis of campaign finance records and corporate filings show US tech moguls who invested in mining companies operating in Greenland, fossil fuel executives and crypto tycoons with their own set of plans for the country collectively gave at least $243m to the president’s 2024 campaign.
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BlackRock specifically holds significant stakes in companies with Greenland interests, notably as a major institutional investor in Critical Metals Corp, which has mining permits (like for rare earths) in Greenland, alongside other firms like Vanguard and Cantor Fitzgerald, showing indirect but substantial involvement in Greenland's mining potential, though direct BlackRock property isn't the focus.
A Guardian analysis of campaign finance records and corporate filings show US tech moguls who invested in mining companies operating in Greenland, fossil fuel executives and crypto tycoons with their own set of plans for the country collectively gave at least $243m to the president’s 2024 campaign.
Trump donors eye potential bonanza if US succeeds with Greenland land-grab
Ethical doubts over role of campaign backers and investors with financial ties to president worth hundreds of millions
Great Ron , can you give us an update on Mark Carney and Brookfield ? Please . As to Greenland I expect any mining and development will be subject to royalties , first world safety and enviromental norms and provide employment opportunities. Also I would expect that many of these minerals are presently under a mile of ice , and won’t be readily available in the near future .Some of Donald Trump’s biggest campaign donors and investors, who collectively have hundreds of millions of dollars in financial ties to the US president, are positioned to potentially profit from any American takeover of Greenland, raising even more ethical questions around Trump’s controversial pursuit of the Arctic territory.
BlackRock specifically holds significant stakes in companies with Greenland interests, notably as a major institutional investor in Critical Metals Corp, which has mining permits (like for rare earths) in Greenland, alongside other firms like Vanguard and Cantor Fitzgerald, showing indirect but substantial involvement in Greenland's mining potential, though direct BlackRock property isn't the focus.
A Guardian analysis of campaign finance records and corporate filings show US tech moguls who invested in mining companies operating in Greenland, fossil fuel executives and crypto tycoons with their own set of plans for the country collectively gave at least $243m to the president’s 2024 campaign.
Trump donors eye potential bonanza if US succeeds with Greenland land-grab
Ethical doubts over role of campaign backers and investors with financial ties to president worth hundreds of millions
