The New York Declaration.
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What a man & his steer do and the privacy of their own barn is none of my business.
Anyway, you don’t think that the phrasing in your question/statement of:
“Who is going to disarm and relocate the Jew Klux Klan? The Hilltop Terrorist gang won't go quietly” is going to lead to a bias in the answer?
Is this not telling you what you wanna hear?
Sort of like above?
Etc…?
Is it Bias when our Govt has sanctions on Hilltop Youth for terrorism and an ongoing 11 year ICC investigation against radicals in Israeli govt?
Should I have phrased it "gently armed God's chosen settler groups" Hilltop Youth and Jew Power? Would it have been different?
I think its telling you what you don't want to hear.
Try phrasing it your way or we ask it if its tickling my balls.
Asked and answered in a kinder gentler way.
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Under the New York Declaration and the 21 Point plan, what are the long term issues if any facing se
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Its a shared inquiry. You can ask or rebutt it then share the link back. Its assessments are based on links that are included along the way if you have doubts.
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U.S. President Donald Trump is not exactly known for bringing people together. But his Gaza peace plan, unveiled on Monday, has been praised by virtually everyone, save the extremists. Which means he must have got something right.
Although the plan doesn’t guarantee an eventual Palestinian state, it sets out a path for the Palestinian Authority to assume control of Gaza once it has implemented reforms and says that, “Conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood.”
It would seem as though there’s something in here for everyone: Palestinians would see an especially brutal war come to an end, would have some hope that the territory could be rebuilt and economically revitalized and would at least see a potential pathway towards reunification and statehood. The Israelis, meanwhile, would finally see their remaining hostages released and Hamas dismantled — their two primary war goals.
Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Qatar and Egypt issued a joint statement affirming their “commitment to engage positively and constructively with the United States and the parties toward finalizing the agreement and ensuring its implementation,” further isolating Hamas on the world stage.
The only real opposition has come from the extremists on both sides. Palestinian Islamic Jihad, which is holding at least one of the hostages, rejected the deal, saying it is a “recipe for continued aggression against the Palestinian people.”
Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who has made no secret of his desire to re-establish Jewish settlements in Gaza, also called the proposal a “resounding diplomatic failure,” but stopped short of threatening to pull out of the coalition government, as he is fond of doing.
The only party that has seemingly not weighed in — and really the only one that matters — is Hamas.
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"Hamas is either going to be doing it or not, and if it’s not, it’s going to be a very sad end," Trump said as he left the White House. Asked whether there was scope for further talks on the proposal, he replied: "Not much."
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Although the plan doesn’t guarantee an eventual Palestinian state, it sets out a path for the Palestinian Authority to assume control of Gaza once it has implemented reforms and says that, “Conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood.”
It would seem as though there’s something in here for everyone: Palestinians would see an especially brutal war come to an end, would have some hope that the territory could be rebuilt and economically revitalized and would at least see a potential pathway towards reunification and statehood. The Israelis, meanwhile, would finally see their remaining hostages released and Hamas dismantled — their two primary war goals.
Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Qatar and Egypt issued a joint statement affirming their “commitment to engage positively and constructively with the United States and the parties toward finalizing the agreement and ensuring its implementation,” further isolating Hamas on the world stage.
The only real opposition has come from the extremists on both sides. Palestinian Islamic Jihad, which is holding at least one of the hostages, rejected the deal, saying it is a “recipe for continued aggression against the Palestinian people.”
Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who has made no secret of his desire to re-establish Jewish settlements in Gaza, also called the proposal a “resounding diplomatic failure,” but stopped short of threatening to pull out of the coalition government, as he is fond of doing.
The only party that has seemingly not weighed in — and really the only one that matters — is Hamas.
Global reaction to Trump's proposal for a Gaza peace plan — Reuters
U.S. President Donald Trump's 20-point plan to end nearly two years of war in Gaza has received the backing of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, while the plan has been shared with Palestinian militant group Hamas.
Hamas under pressure as Trump issues deadline on Gaza peace plan — Reuters
U.S. President Donald Trump gave Hamas three to four days on Tuesday to accept a U.S.-backed peace plan for Gaza, warning of "a very sad end" if the group rejected the proposal that he said was close to ending the two-year-old conflict.
Pope Leo says he hopes Hamas will accept Trump's peace plan — Reuters
Pope Leo on Tuesday praised U.S. President Donald Trump's 20-point peace plan for Gaza, and expressed hope that the Palestinian militant group Hamas would endorse it.
Qatari PM hopes 'momentum' now to end Israel's Gaza war; Hamas deliberates — Al Jazeera
'The main focus is how to protect the people in Gaza,' stressed the Qatari PM in an interview with Al Jazeera.
Opinion | Trump outlines a welcome ceasefire agreement but not the deal of the century — Toronto Star
If fully and sincerely implemented, the agreement could begin the difficult task of returning rule of law to Gaza, establishing a Palestinian Authority presence in the form of a technocratic local government to run day-to-day operations, and end the rule of Hamas and the threats of insurgent groups.
Israel ramps up Gaza City offensive as Hamas weighs Trump plan — Reuters
Hamas' review of U.S. President Donald Trump's Gaza plan stretched into a third day on Wednesday, a source close to the militant group said, as other Palestinian factions rejected the proposal and as Israel again bombed Gaza City.
Qatar, Egypt and Turkey urge Hamas to accept Trump's Gaza peace plan — Axios
Qatar, Egypt and Turkey are urging Hamas to give a positive response to President Trump's proposal for ending the war in Gaza, according to two sources with knowledge of the talks.
Nutlessyahud already shit all over the 21 (now 20) pt plan and New York Declaration in a speech in Hebrew.Hamas' review of U.S. President Donald Trump's Gaza plan stretched into a third day on Wednesday, a source close to the militant group said, as other Palestinian factions rejected the proposal and as Israel again bombed Gaza City.
Pope Leo says he hopes Hamas will accept Trump's peace plan — Reuters
Pope Leo on Tuesday praised U.S. President Donald Trump's 20-point peace plan for Gaza, and expressed hope that the Palestinian militant group Hamas would endorse it.
Hamas is yet to publicly comment on Trump's plan, which demands that the militant group release the remaining hostages, surrender its weapons and have no future role in running Gaza.
Qatari PM hopes 'momentum' now to end Israel's Gaza war; Hamas deliberates — Al Jazeera
'The main focus is how to protect the people in Gaza,' stressed the Qatari PM in an interview with Al Jazeera.
Trump on Tuesday gave Hamas "three or four days" to respond to the plan he outlined this week with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has backed the proposal to end Israel's almost two-year war with the Palestinian militant group.
Opinion | Trump outlines a welcome ceasefire agreement but not the deal of the century — Toronto Star
If fully and sincerely implemented, the agreement could begin the difficult task of returning rule of law to Gaza, establishing a Palestinian Authority presence in the form of a technocratic local government to run day-to-day operations, and end the rule of Hamas and the threats of insurgent groups.
Israel ramps up Gaza City offensive as Hamas weighs Trump plan — Reuters
Hamas' review of U.S. President Donald Trump's Gaza plan stretched into a third day on Wednesday, a source close to the militant group said, as other Palestinian factions rejected the proposal and as Israel again bombed Gaza City.
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Qatar, Egypt and Turkey urge Hamas to accept Trump's Gaza peace plan — Axios
Qatar, Egypt and Turkey are urging Hamas to give a positive response to President Trump's proposal for ending the war in Gaza, according to two sources with knowledge of the talks.
What Netanyahu Said in Hebrew
In the ~1-minute video (widely circulated on Israeli media and social platforms), Netanyahu spoke directly to Israelis, framing the plan as a tool to isolate Hamas while firmly rejecting core elements like Palestinian statehood or full withdrawal. Here's a verbatim translation of the key excerpts (transcribed from the original Hebrew video and corroborated by reports in Ynet, Al Jazeera, and BBC):
"Friends, we have turned the tables on Hamas—instead of them isolating us, we are isolating them. The entire world, including the Arab and Muslim world, is pressuring Hamas to accept the conditions we have set and to release all our hostages.
We have not agreed to a Palestinian state—this is not written in the agreement, and we will firmly oppose it. President Trump understands this; he said it himself at the UN: it would be a huge reward for terror and a danger to the State of Israel, and of course, we will not agree to it.
The IDF will remain in most of the Strip [Gaza] to ensure security and prevent Hamas from rearming. All the war's goals must be achieved: the return of our hostages, the elimination of Hamas's capabilities, and lasting security for Israel. If Hamas refuses, we will finish the job."
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The proposal, which was formally accepted by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a joint press conference with Trump at the White House on Monday, sets out a broad framework for ending the war and administering Gaza the “day after” — two things Israel’s premier has steadfastly refused to do for nearly two years since the October 7 massacre. This is not last week or two years ago or early June of 1967 or 1948, etc…
And New York Declaration.
That's what forces Trump's plan.
"We have not agreed to a Palestinian
state—this is not written in the agreement"
Ignoring Trump is ignoring a block far more powerful. Do you still want there to be a viable Israel a year from now?
That, & Qatar knowing that it can’t just guide things from the background while dragging this out for another two years and remain untouched.
The UN made complete arses of themselves when they stuffed the chamber with staffers and any other warm body they could immediately before Netanyahu’s speech, just for the optics of emptying the chamber.
Netanyahu’s speech was directed towards them anyway.
The optics of walking out on a genocidal internationally wanted war criminal with a target on his back and is full of bullshit?
That Netanyahu?
Trump has 3 more years, Netanyahu will be lucky to get 3 more days alive.
Are you still cool with decapitation strikes?
I can think of 7 countries who have reason.
When I post a video, I tried to post relatively short videos, as we all have busy lives. This one is worth the 12 1/2 minutes.
Lilley couldn't find his ass without both hands slapping hasbara money.
Its going to take years and a 3rd party to get the official death toll. Israel can't be allowed to bulldoze the evidence. War crimes are involved.
You just can't kill 30,000 kids. PERIOD.
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Absolutely.
The world doesn't want a US (if they still do) backed Jewish Taliban.
Fear mongering is fear mongering. Its a worn out runny bullshit tact.
That video was about the claimed body counts in Gaza, not about your Jewish Taliban, etc…and Brian Lilley had a couple of guests on to discuss the matter. It wasn’t about fear mongering, it was about claimed fatalities, sources of information, etc…
People have IDs. IDs and relative identifications are given at the morgue. The morgue passes that number to officials. Nothing is nefarious. Is it hard to count dead people you know about?
How many under the rubble Barney?
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That’s why that 12 1/2 minute video was interesting. It goes into some of the methodology, sources, etc…