Neither USA nor EU nor Russia nor any other state can reverse the weather change

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Try it yourself. At the start, the hot water will be above the cold water, then after a while they may mix.
So if you want to have a warm water, don't pour the hot water on the cold water: if you pour the hot water on the cold water, it will not mix immediately, because the hot tends to be above, and the cold tends to be below.
But pour the cold water on the hot water: the cold water will go down and will immediately mix to give you a warm water.
Yuuuup. Cold water is denser than the hot. We did this in elementary school. Hot on cold will layer but cold on hot will mix as the heavier cold water sinks.
 

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Yuuuup. Cold water is denser than the hot. We did this in elementary school. Hot on cold will layer but cold on hot will mix as the heavier cold water sinks.
Really? Well, I stand corrected, though I’ve never seen it done, or been able to do it myself. Regardless, it’s not because gravity is affected by temperature. You I’m inclined to believe, Torch light I am not, he’s so wrong about so much else, and when he *is* right it’s for the wrong reasons.
 
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Really? Well, I stand corrected, though I’ve never seen it done, or been able to do it myself. Regardless, it’s not because gravity is affected by temperature. You I’m inclined to believe, Torch light I am not, he’s so wrong about so much else, and when he *is* right it’s for the wrong reasons.
It is gravity since denser cold water has more mass but not temperature impacting the constant of gravity.

 

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Interesting demo, thanks for that. I note, however, that he didn’t pour one container of water into the other. I’d predict that doing that would cause them to mix fairly quickly because the hot water would enter the cold water with a downward velocity. I’ll have to try it and see what happens.
 

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Interesting demo, thanks for that. I note, however, that he didn’t pour one container of water into the other. I’d predict that doing that would cause them to mix fairly quickly because the hot water would enter the cold water with a downward velocity. I’ll have to try it and see what happens.
Its like pouring liquers in layers to make shooters. Its in the methodology. If a glass is at an angle the side temporarily becomes the bottom and cold will slip under the hot. Dumping is too aggressive.
 
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I’m sure you’re right. My original contention was that if you just pour hot water into cold water they’ll mix, and the demo shows careful precautions are necessary to ensure they don’t. Dumping creates the turbulence that’ll mix them. Torch light seemed to be arguing that they won’t mix under any circumstances, which I’m sure is wrong.
 

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Really? Well, I stand corrected, though I’ve never seen it done, or been able to do it myself. Regardless, it’s not because gravity is affected by temperature. You I’m inclined to believe, Torch light I am not, he’s so wrong about so much else, and when he *is* right it’s for the wrong reasons.
Yep. And, of course, water is an excellent conductor of heat, so as the temperatures of the two layers of water equalize, they'll mix. It, like Torchy, is a simple matter of density.
 

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I’m sure you’re right. My original contention was that if you just pour hot water into cold water they’ll mix, and the demo shows careful precautions are necessary to ensure they don’t. Dumping creates the turbulence that’ll mix them. Torch light seemed to be arguing that they won’t mix under any circumstances, which I’m sure is wrong.
Did I say this?
Even if you stir the glass of water they will no mix immediately, but if the hot water on the top of the cold water in a sealed bottle, and then you turn the bottle upside down, they will mix instantly.
 
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Yep. And, of course, water is an excellent conductor of heat, so as the temperatures of the two layers of water equalize, they'll mix. It, like Torchy, is a simple matter of density.
This is wrong. Water in fact is not a good conductor of heat.
 
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In conclusion: none can reverse the climate changes because it is beyond the capability of any creature: it is because the earth has become nearer to the sun by a small distance only.

But what people can do is: to clear the atmosphere which will be good for the health of people in general, and may have a little effect on the ozone layer, by decreasing the emission of industrial gases like CO2 and CH4 and the like.

If people devote themselves to God alone and obey Him in being just and not to transgress on others ... then they pray God Almighty and Most Gracious, He may make many things for them like: changing the axis inclination of the earth, and like changing the effect of clouds and rain and vegetation which will give mitigation of the climate.

Anyhow, when the circumstances will deteriorate in the future, many people will migrate to Mars:
The emigration to Mars
 

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Did I say this?
Even if you stir the glass of water they will no mix immediately, but if the hot water on the top of the cold water in a sealed bottle, and then you turn the bottle upside down, they will mix instantly.
Yes you did. I've just run the experiment, trying to pour hot water on top of cold water without using the card as shown in the demo, just dribbling the hot into the cold, and trying to let it trickle as gently as I could down the side of the glass. They do not stratify, they mix immediately.
 

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True: the earth has become nearer to the sun by a short distance.
why the planet is near or far from the sun
The earth becomes nearer and farther from the sun by about 3 million miles every year as it goes around its elliptical orbit. The claims at that link are nonsense, direct observation confirms that smaller colder planets are not nearer to the sun. Mars is smaller and colder than earth and is farther way, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune are all smaller and colder than Jupiter and they're farther away than Jupiter.
 

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The earth becomes nearer and farther from the sun by about 3 million miles every year as it goes around its elliptical orbit. The claims at that link are nonsense, direct observation confirms that smaller colder planets are not nearer to the sun. Mars is smaller and colder than earth and is farther way, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune are all smaller and colder than Jupiter and they're farther away than Jupiter.
You reiterate what most of astronomers say, while the interpreter gives the correction of these data, and his explanation is logical.
Yes you did. I've just run the experiment, trying to pour hot water on top of cold water without using the card as shown in the demo, just dribbling the hot into the cold, and trying to let it trickle as gently as I could down the side of the glass. They do not stratify, they mix immediately.
This explains much about your insisting on your words.
I say: Put the cold water, much cold to make the test clear... then pour little hot water gently over it: not to the side of the glass and not tilting the glass, then drink it: you will feel the hot at first, then comes the cold water into your mouth.
While if you put the hot water then you pour the cold over it, not to the side of the glass you will drink warm water... the thing which I do in winter time to drink warm water.
So with all your physics, you could not know this simple fact!? And always you tell me: 'non-sense' and 'non-sense'..
 
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You reiterate what most of astronomers say, while the interpreter gives the correction of these data, and his explanation is logical.
I reiterate what *all* astronomers say. You can be perfectly logical—though Al-Hilly is not—and still be wrong if you reason from false information.