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Tecumsehsbones

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America and Britain have invaded more countries over the last twenty years than Russia has.

And why's it okay for Britain and America to recognise rebel areas of Syria but evil when Russia recognises rebel areas of Ukraine?
So jailing political opponents justifies invading a country?

When will you be invading Russia?
 

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So jailing political opponents justifies invading a country?

When will you be invading Russia?

I think Ukraine cosying up to the EU, NATO troops being posted along the Russian border and the shocking treatment of ethnic Russians in Ukraine caused Russia to invade.

The EU and NATO - much more expansionist than Russia - are to blame for this war. If you're going to spend years menacingly poking a bear then don't be surprised if that bear eventually lashes out in anger and blame it on that bear.
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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I think Ukraine cosying up to the EU, NATO troops being posted along the Russian border and the shocking treatment of ethnic Russians in Ukraine caused Russia to invade.

The EU and NATO - much more expansionist than Russia - are to blame for this war. If you're going to spend years menacingly poking a bear then don't be surprised if that bear eventually lashes out in anger and blame it on that bear.
Kinda like y'all poked Germany by refusing to relax reparations in the 1930s? Nice to know you blame Britain for WWII.
 

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Kinda like y'all poked Germany by refusing to relax reparations in the 1930s? Nice to know you blame Britain for WWII.

How do you imagine America would have felt had the Eastern Bloc stationed thousands of troops along your Mexican border and Mexico wanted to join the USSR?

But you expect Russia to sit back quietly and accept a similar scenario?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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How do you imagine America would have felt had the Eastern Bloc stationed thousands of troops along your Mexican border and Mexico wanted to join the USSR?

But you expect Russia to sit back quietly and accept a similar scenario?
You got all the hypotheticals in the world. I got facts and history.

Oh, right. Y'all got the Law Salic, which held y'all had the right to get your asses kicked out of France by a 14-year-old, schizophrenic girl.
 

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As an American, you have no right to condemn Russia for invading a sovereign state and bombing its citizens, because your country is even better at it.
 

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You got all the hypotheticals in the world. I got facts and history.

Oh, right. Y'all got the Law Salic, which held y'all had the right to get your asses kicked out of France by a 14-year-old, schizophrenic girl.

You mean those English lands which the French took over and were rightfully ours?
 
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Blackleaf

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Britain, when America gives it permission.

Correct. America and Britain.

It's alright for us to invade Iraq and Afghanistan and bomb schools and hospitals but it's not okay for the Russians to do it to Ukraine in response to EU and NATO expansionism and belligerence.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Correct. America and Britain.

It's alright for us to invade Iraq and Afghanistan and bomb schools and hospitals but it's not okay for the Russians to do it to Ukraine in response to EU and NATO expansionism and belligerence.
When did the Ukrainians attack the Russian World Trade Center?

You can be all contrarian and think you're cool all you like, boy. You don't know what an "act of war" is.
 

Blackleaf

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When did the Ukrainians attack the Russian World Trade Center?

You can be all contrarian and think you're cool all you like, boy. You don't know what an "act of war" is.

I didn't know you have to attack buildings to be angry.

I think that Russians are more angry at the fact that the EU is courting a country which borders Russia and the stationing of NATO troops along the Russian border.

They're also angry at the shameful treatment of ethnic Russians within Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine wants to be Russian.
 

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I didn't know you have to attack buildings to be angry.

I think that Russians are more angry at the fact that the EU is courting a country which borders Russia and the stationing of NATO troops along the Russian border.

They're also angry at the shameful treatment of ethnic Russians within Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine wants to be Russian.

I think Putin has been putin' it up your ass there Blackie..

I know you like Putin the pedophile, now I am understanding you a bit more..


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This is the article Alexander Litvinenko wrote accusing Putin:

July 2006 – A few days ago, Russian President Vladimir Putin walked from the Big Kremlin Palace to his Residence. At one of the Kremlin squares, the president stopped to chat with the tourists. Among them was a boy aged 4 or 5. What is your name?’ Putin asked. ‘Nikita,’ the boy replied. Putin kneeled, lifted the boy’s T-shirt and kissed his stomach. The world public is shocked. Nobody can understand why the Russian president did such a strange thing as kissing the stomach of an unfamiliar small boy. The explanation may be found if we look carefully at the so-called “blank spots” in Putin’s biography.

After graduating from the Andropov Institute, which prepares officers for the KGB intelligence service, Putin was not accepted into the foreign intelligence. Instead, he was sent to a junior position in KGB Leningrad Directorate. This was a very unusual twist for a career of an Andropov Institute’s graduate with fluent German. Why did that happen with Putin? Because, shortly before his graduation, his bosses learned that Putin was a pedophile. So say some people who knew Putin as a student at the Institute.

The Institute officials feared to report this to their own superiors, which would cause an unpleasant investigation. They decided it was easier just to avoid sending Putin abroad under some pretext. Such a solution is not unusual for the secret services. Many years later, when Putin became the FSB director and was preparing for presidency, he began to seek and destroy any compromising materials collected against him by the secret services over earlier years. It was not difficult, provided he himself was the FSB director. Among other things, Putin found videotapes in the FSB Internal Security Directorate, which showed him making sex with some underage boys. Interestingly, the video was recorded in the same conspiratorial flat in Polyanka Street in Moscow where Russian Prosecutor-General Yuri Skuratov was secretly video-taped with two prostitutes. Later, in the famous scandal, Putin (on Roman Abramovich’s instructions) blackmailed Skuratov with these tapes and tried to persuade the Prosecutor-General to resign. In that conversation, Putin mentioned to Skuratov that he himself was also secretly video-taped making sex at the same bed. (But of course, he did not tell it was pedophilia rather than normal sex. Later, Skuratov wrote about this in his book Variant Drakona (p.p. 153-154).
 

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I didn't know you have to attack buildings to be angry.

I think that Russians are more angry at the fact that the EU is courting a country which borders Russia and the stationing of NATO troops along the Russian border.

They're also angry at the shameful treatment of ethnic Russians within Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine wants to be Russian.

Look at you, trying to be... all... whatever this is.

Fact is, NATO WASN'T an issue really, thanks to 4 years of Trump fucking with it.

Now, BECAUSE of Putin, there are more countries wanting to join NATO, AND Europe and the West in general are more united than they were just six months ago. Finland, Sweden, Ukraine (also wanting in the EU and may just get it) and even Moldova wants into the EU.

As for Putin wanting to "protect Ethnic Russians" that's utter bullshit. This wasn't about Ethnic Russians, this wasn't about the Nazification of Ukraine, this was about a fucking legacy for Putin and him gaining power, plain and simple.

But of course you're too fucking ignorant to understand any of that. Thank Gods you're one of the silly minority in Britain.
 

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Look at you, trying to be... all... whatever this is.

Fact is, NATO WASN'T an issue really, thanks to 4 years of Trump fucking with it.

You mean asking NATO countries to pay their fair share.. gee that has to suck..

I mean Germany is expecting the USA top pay the bill while they buy 60% of their energy from the country the USA was supposed to defend them from..

Trump was 100% correct.. pay your fair share.
 

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You mean asking NATO countries to pay their fair share.. gee that has to suck..

I mean Germany is expecting the USA top pay the bill while they buy 60% of their energy from the country the USA was supposed to defend them from..

Trump was 100% correct.. pay your fair share.
Germany is doubling their contributions as of today.
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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I didn't know you have to attack buildings to be angry.

I think that Russians are more angry at the fact that the EU is courting a country which borders Russia and the stationing of NATO troops along the Russian border.

They're also angry at the shameful treatment of ethnic Russians within Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine wants to be Russian.
Aaaaand. . . you still don't know what an "act of war" is.

But you got yer 'pinyuns!