Trudeau calls trucker protest an 'insult to truth'

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Wow….did a state of emergency get declared for BLM or Antifa (?) or Idle No More or the Wet’suwet’en pipeline protest (?) where the rail lines where blocked for weeks and even lit on fire? Would the Woke be brave enough to treat them equally to these truckers & whatever attached themselves to this protest or is this ‘safe’ enough to pretend they now have balls?

I think comparing BLM protests (or flavour of the day ANTIFA) to this Convoy is disingenuous really. Personal belief, but I don't think any of it is similar at all, nor are the demands the same, nor is methodology or, well, anything...

Except for the idiots on both sides who took what could have/was a legitimate issue and made it into a farce.
 
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I strongly dislike some of government's rhetoric here.

If they had any sense (BIG ask), they'd say "You are free to protest. That is your absolute right. You are not free to break the law. If you break the law, you will be treated accordingly, regardless of your motives. Just like anybody else who did the same thing." Then be super-ultra-careful to adhere to that line.
 

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I strongly dislike some of government's rhetoric here.

If they had any sense (BIG ask), they'd say "You are free to protest. That is your absolute right. You are not free to break the law. If you break the law, you will be treated accordingly, regardless of your motives. Just like anybody else who did the same thing." Then be super-ultra-careful to adhere to that line.
…and apply the law consistently regardless of religious or Racial or financial status of the protesters….that would be…Woke?
 

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I think comparing BLM protests (or flavour of the day ANTIFA) to this Convoy is disingenuous really. Personal belief, but I don't think any of it is similar at all, nor are the demands the same, nor is methodology or, well, anything...

Except for the idiots on both sides who took what could have/was a legitimate issue and made it into a farce.
Comparing BLM or Antifa to what started as a convoy protest is disingenuous, as so far in the last 10 days in Ottawa I don’t think anybody has been murdered, or burnt down any police stations, or churches, etc…. So yeah, on that point I agree.
 

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Comparing BLM or Antifa to what started as a convoy protest is disingenuous, as so far in the last 10 days in Ottawa I don’t think anybody has been murdered, or burnt down any police stations, or churches, etc…. So yeah, on that point I agree.
I agree that the comparisons are inapposite.

The grievances that motivated BLM are older, deeper, and vastly more pervasive and severe than the truckers' hissy fit.
 
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I think comparing BLM protests (or flavour of the day ANTIFA) to this Convoy is disingenuous really. Personal belief, but I don't think any of it is similar at all, nor are the demands the same, nor is methodology or, well, anything...

Except for the idiots on both sides who took what could have/was a legitimate issue and made it into a farce.
What have idiots done in the present protest . Some guys parked their rigs where the media normally park their production trailers , put a sign and two Canadian flags on Terry Fox , oh a a couple danced at the Tomb . The horror .
In the downtown Ottawa core not one business has boarded up windows , why is that ?
 
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I agree that the comparisons are inapposite.

The grievances that motivated BLM are older, deeper, and vastly more pervasive and severe than the truckers' hissy fit.
B.S. every person alive have a family history that is full of grievances to the dawn of time .
 
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What have idiots done in the present protest . Some guys parked their rigs where the media normally park their production trailers , put a sign and two Canadian flags on Terry Fox , oh a a couple danced at the Tomb . The horror .
In the downtown Ottawa core not one business has boarded up windows , why is that ?
You judge all of BLM by the actions of the rioters.

Shall we judge all cops by the conduct of the troopers at Edmund Pettus Bridge?
 
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You judge all of BLM by the actions of the rioters.

Shall we judge all cops by the conduct of the troopers at Edmund Pettus Bridge?
Nothing is ever all or none , the financial accounting of their leaders set the tone . Do you think BLM is representative of all black people ?
 
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Every Black person alive in the U.S. has a personal history full of grievances. It ain't about slavery. It ain't about Jim Crow. It's about the here and now.
Is that not gradually changing ? Does crying whoa is me , help ?
 

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Is that not gradually changing ? Does crying whoa is me , help ?
It is. It's "woe is me," and I don't know. Didn't help us any, but that preacher King seemed to get some traction.

Is it not the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances?
 

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The party of law and order..

Witch-hunting….2 for mischief, a defective muffler, wrong way down a street, improper class of drivers license….really giving voice to these people? Sad.
 
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…and apply the law consistently regardless of religious or Racial or financial status of the protesters….that would be…Woke?
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau dismissed last week the suggestion he should meet with the convoy protesters. “That is the decision Canadians took in the last election, by voting for parties that were supporting those mandates,” he said. Translation: You had your chance to vote last fall so take a hike. This was after the Ottawa police chief said the situation might not have a “policing solution.”

And yet, Trudeau called for “constructive dialogue” during the 2020 anti-pipeline campaign to “shut down Canada.”


Vancouver mayor Kennedy Stewart released a statement on Friday warning protesters against blocking roads and digging in for the long haul, as has happened in Ottawa: “My message to the convoy is this: Vancouver doesn’t want you here. Make your point and then go home.” This is petulant sneering, but Stewart was, perhaps unsurprisingly, arrested in 2018 for blocking access to a Kinder Morgan job site in Burnaby, as part of an anti-Trans Mountain pipeline protest.

One prominent University of Ottawa professor encouraged people to avoid calling those involved with the convoy “protesters.” Instead, he advised, “call them occupiers,” and added that this was necessary in order to “frame coverage.” However, he had a much different position two years ago. “Protests are meant to disrupt. They’re meant to bring reality crashing down on you,” he wrote.

Nevermind that before labelling protesters as “occupiers” was considered derisive by some on the left, there was the anti-capitalist occupy movement. It was only a matter of time before those with different politics adopted similar tactics.

Blocking infrastructure has always been inappropriate, not just when it is done by those with the wrong political views. Properly and competently policed cities is the bare minimum that should be expected from governments.

What is happening in Ottawa is indeed something different, but I am not sure how much of that is because it is new to Canada, or different in general. Perhaps it is just the plain visibility of it that is unnerving. A protest camp near a pipeline might struggle for attention, not so a camp in front of Parliament. There is still no indication that the intent of the protesters is to be violent, rather than to be a massive unyielding nuisance, but the fact local police don’t appear to have control of the situation is worrying. Mayor Jim Watson conceded Sunday that the protesters are “calling the shots.”

What is becoming increasingly clear is that this is a country that — despite laws, legislative bodies and regular elections — is governed by whoever can block traffic the longest.
 
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