End the Lockdown

Blackleaf

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If you want to get away with breaking lockdown rules, just be a Muslim.

 

B00Mer

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Okay enough with "End The Lockdown" because at least for Canada, it's a dream..

For anyone who thinks that if you only stay home and lock down for a couple of weeks we'll all be saved...

Remember... A vaccine will take at least 18 months. And that doesn't count getting it into the hands of the billions of people Bill Gates and Co. think should be forced to take it.

Texas is opening up, California May 15th, Canada looking around July 15th.

 

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"More Dangerous Than Going To The Grocery Store" - Not really. Grocery stores have done a pretty good job of distancing 2+ meters. Other jobs may require close distances.
Many don't. Let them go back to werk.
 

Mockingbird

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So we've got another shitweasel who naively believes that someone being locked up at home almost continuously for weeks on end has no detrimental effect on their health and wellbeing.
I'm rather alarmed that you have more concern for a caged bear than to the many elderly people and others who are going to die during the lockdown as a result of being effectively caged.

A shitweasel? Oh that's creative, good for you. Stephen King fan are ya?

To continue, locked up at home? Hmm, are you locked up in your house? Am I? Just a sec, I'm going to go check and see if I'm locked up in my house, brb. Okay, I'm back, and nope, not locked up in my house at all. Turns out the locks are still on the inside of my doors. What a relief, you had me going there for a second. In fact I saw my neighbour while out there, turns out her locks are still on the inside of her doors too, isn't that great? We enjoyed the sunshine for a bit and had a visit, all while social distancing of course. And bonus, she's going to the market tonight to pick up some fresh produce and offered to grab me some so that worked out well.

Now do tell, how did you came to the conclusion that because I feel for animals who are locked up in actual in cages (see, their locks are on the outside) somehow means that I care less for the "many elderly people and others who are going to die during the lock down as a result of being effectively caged." I am truly curious as to how you deduced that as I have not stated as such to you or any person for that matter. Could it be possible that an individual, such as myself, could have sympathy for animals spending the entirety of their lives locked up in a cage while at the same time have sympathy for people who may fall victim to a virus? I know it may be a stretch for someone as simp I mean as single minded as you seem to be, but I assure you it is possible. So your alarm really is unwarranted.
 

Blackleaf

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A shitweasel? Oh that's creative, good for you. Stephen King fan are ya?
To continue, locked up at home? Hmm, are you locked up in your house? Am I? Just a sec, I'm going to go check and see if I'm locked up in my house, brb. Okay, I'm back, and nope, not locked up in my house at all. Turns out the locks are still on the inside of my doors. What a relief, you had me going there for a second. In fact I saw my neighbour while out there, turns out her locks are still on the inside of her doors too, isn't that great? We enjoyed the sunshine for a bit and had a visit, all while social distancing of course. And bonus, she's going to the market tonight to pick up some fresh produce and offered to grab me some so that worked out well.
Now do tell, how did you came to the conclusion that because I feel for animals who are locked up in actual in cages (see, their locks are on the outside) somehow means that I care less for the "many elderly people and others who are going to die during the lock down as a result of being effectively caged." I am truly curious as to how you deduced that as I have not stated as such to you or any person for that matter. Could it be possible that an individual, such as myself, could have sympathy for animals spending the entirety of their lives locked up in a cage while at the same time have sympathy for people who may fall victim to a virus? I know it may be a stretch for someone as simp I mean as single minded as you seem to be, but I assure you it is possible. So your alarm really is unwarranted.

Utter crap.

Now stop supporting totalitarianism.
 

B00Mer

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Britain tried the herd immunity, didn't work so well for Boris :lol:

Almost killed him... Almost ;)

I think they should let those who want herd immunity out, when they get sick deny them aid.. After all, you can't fix stupid but you can let them die of COVID-19
 

B00Mer

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There really is no lockdown, no body is forcing you to stay inside..

Go for a walk, enjoy the day, go to the Walmart and shop..

Nobody is saying you can't go out.. I was at the park today, Dollar General, Taco restaurant then back to the truck.
 

Mockingbird

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Utter crap.
Now stop supporting totalitarianism.


Oh come on now! I've seen you take a swing at less! Get that bat off your shoulder! For reals, I think you have a touch of the "Walter's" with your two word responses. "Utter crap" lol, what a cop out. Oops, dismiss that last part, you used six whole words, with periods and a big boy word and everything. Good for you, you earned a ribbon!

 

Mockingbird

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There really is no lockdown, no body is forcing you to stay inside..
Go for a walk, enjoy the day, go to the Walmart and shop..
Nobody is saying you can't go out.. I was at the park today, Dollar General, Taco restaurant then back to the truck.


I went outside today too, multiple times in fact. No one forced me back in my home at gunpoint.
 

Serryah

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Oh, awesome!

When do you start demanding BoJo to step down, Blackie?

From his speech today, he's all in favor of staying in and people being under lockdown.


Oops...
 

Blackleaf

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Oh, awesome!
When do you start demanding BoJo to step down, Blackie?
From his speech today, he's all in favor of staying in and people being under lockdown.
Oops...

Boris isn't a fan of the lockdown and was very reluctant to impose it.

He's not naturally comfortable with removing anyone's personal liberties.

Throughout his career, Johnson disparaged ideas of the "nanny state" and disdained the political instincts of those who use the state to tell the public what to do.

In a 2004 newspaper column, Johnson wrote of a proposed smoking ban: "We should have the common sense to listen to others before we presume to act in their interests."

Mocking those who supported the ban, he wrote: "Next thing, I said, you'll be wanting to ban drink in order to remove any temptation to get drunk, or ban cars, to avoid ever being tempted to drive too fast..."

His reluctance to tell others what to do goes beyond gags about drinks. In the same column, Johnson made reference to the Iraq war -- and attacked the government of the time (now the opposition Labour party) who "decided, from a position of such ignorance, that the best way to help Iraq was to kill so many of its people."

This stuff runs deep for Johnson. He has spent decades honing his image as a liberal Conservative who believes people should be free to live their lives how they wish. It is a seam which has run through his entire professional career: from editing magazines to running the official Brexit campaign.

The fact that Johnson has for years defined his political views as driven by personal liberty might go some way to explaining why the new rules are in fact a little less drastic than they initially sound.

Yes, movement will be limited -- but even after this latest announcement, the UK's response is still less strict than in Germany, France and Italy. Yes, the police can break up gatherings of people and impose fines -- but there's no mention of detention. And Johnson's advisers were keen to remind journalists that the rules will be reviewed in three weeks (13th April).



https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...navirus-lockdown-analysis-gbr-intl/index.html


Boris will have to be careful, though. He's got a whopping 72% approval rating but the longer he keeps the lockdown going the more likely it is he'll start seeing his popularity wane.
 

Serryah

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Boris isn't a fan of the lockdown and was very reluctant to impose it.

He's not naturally comfortable with removing anyone's personal liberties.

Throughout his career, Johnson disparaged ideas of the "nanny state" and disdained the political instincts of those who use the state to tell the public what to do.

In a 2004 newspaper column, Johnson wrote of a proposed smoking ban: "We should have the common sense to listen to others before we presume to act in their interests."

Mocking those who supported the ban, he wrote: "Next thing, I said, you'll be wanting to ban drink in order to remove any temptation to get drunk, or ban cars, to avoid ever being tempted to drive too fast..."

His reluctance to tell others what to do goes beyond gags about drinks. In the same column, Johnson made reference to the Iraq war -- and attacked the government of the time (now the opposition Labour party) who "decided, from a position of such ignorance, that the best way to help Iraq was to kill so many of its people."

This stuff runs deep for Johnson. He has spent decades honing his image as a liberal Conservative who believes people should be free to live their lives how they wish. It is a seam which has run through his entire professional career: from editing magazines to running the official Brexit campaign.

The fact that Johnson has for years defined his political views as driven by personal liberty might go some way to explaining why the new rules are in fact a little less drastic than they initially sound.

Yes, movement will be limited -- but even after this latest announcement, the UK's response is still less strict than in Germany, France and Italy. Yes, the police can break up gatherings of people and impose fines -- but there's no mention of detention. And Johnson's advisers were keen to remind journalists that the rules will be reviewed in three weeks (13th April).



https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...navirus-lockdown-analysis-gbr-intl/index.html


Boris will have to be careful, though. He's got a whopping 72% approval rating but the longer he keeps the lockdown going the more likely it is he'll start seeing his popularity wane.


Was.


Now he's touting people to stay safe, stay indoors and follow guidelines.


Hopefully, after experiencing what Covid can do, he'll understand WHY all this is needed. If he - a 'healthy' man - had that hard a time with it, imagine how others who aren't as healthy due to medical reasons will take it?
 

Blackleaf

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Chancellor Rishi Sunak to warn that economy will reach 'tipping point' if Cabinet doesn't balance needs of protecting Britain against damage caused by lockdown

The Chancellor is expected to warn of an economic 'tipping point' if the Cabinet does not balance the coronavirus lockdown with the financial damage it is causing.

Rishi Sunak will issue ministers with internal government forecasts showing a gloomy outlook for the economy if Britons remains shut indoors.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson closed the country down on March 23 to try to stem the tsunami of Covid-19 patients flooding into hospitals.

The Chancellor and Health Secretary Matt Hancock will outline a model on the potential aftermath of the crisis this week.

The pair are 'taking a holistic approach in trying to find the right balance' between the health and economic impacts of the lockdown, a source close to Mr Sunak told the Telegraph.

But a senior Conservative MP warned: 'If people are told to stay at home for another four weeks, it's going to be really tough.

'The tipping point is when there is no money in the economy to pay for it [the lockdown].'

It is understood there will be a Cobra meeting on the lockdown on Thursday after ministers hear from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) committee.

The Cabinet has divided into hawks who want to lift the shut down in a few weeks and doves who want to delay until late May at the earliest.

Leading the hawks is Mr Sunak, who previously made 'robust' representations to 'doveish' Mr Hancock that the economy will suffer unless normality is restored.

Mr Hancock believes the protection of the NHS should be the overarching priority, but hawks have been alarmed by the problems stacking up in their departments.

Hawks hoped the lockdown could end by May 8, but doves cited the first day after the May 26 bank holiday as the earliest date for a phased return to normal.

According to one report, the PM is hawkish about the lockdown, and has been taken aback by how rigorously it has been observed by the public.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ng-point-Cabinet-doesnt-balance-lockdown.html
 

Blackleaf

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Was.
Now he's touting people to stay safe, stay indoors and follow guidelines.
Hopefully, after experiencing what Covid can do, he'll understand WHY all this is needed. If he - a 'healthy' man - had that hard a time with it, imagine how others who aren't as healthy due to medical reasons will take it?

What a load of cobblers.