B.C. pipeline protests continue to halt Ontario trains for 5th day in a row

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This is so ****ing out of control. The Wet'suwet'en after being asked by the BC government to have their 'supporter's stand down, almost immediately did the exact opposite, telling them to keep it up and are still refusing to talk. There is zero chance that the spineless little twit will travel to BC and quite frankly, he shouldn't. In spite of being a total wimp PM, he is the head of our Federal government and the very idea of him meeting with them is ridiculous.
 

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This is so ****ing out of control. The Wet'suwet'en after being asked by the BC government to have their 'supporter's stand down, almost immediately did the exact opposite, telling them to keep it up and are still refusing to talk. There is zero chance that the spineless little twit will travel to BC and quite frankly, he shouldn't. In spite of being a total wimp PM, he is the head of our Federal government and the very idea of him meeting with them is ridiculous.
Its welfare Wednesday in BC. Itll take 4 or 5 days for the meth to wear off.
 

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The more the merrier I always say.


With that in mind, as we'll have a larger group, we might have to rent a pub or sumptin' for the meetings.


Anyone with the knowledge and ability to access (significant) federal monies to facilitate this (now) traditional, ceremonial and highly sacred event should come forward ASAP


Like drafting a letter to the Feds, kind of ability? I'm up for that but it might take me abit to come up with the correct approach and wording. For sure it must include the historic wrongs done to our Nation - BTW Head Chief we need a name for our Nation.

I happen to have a genuine Eagle feather in my possession. I found it myself when out prospecting one day. I also have tobacco and the material for a smudge - my best friend smudges a lot.
 

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This has gone beyond beyond. This has to stop.
Think of the consequences if that mentally handicapped individual challenging a train on the tracks today had not made it off the tracks. I have a feeling that the outcry and reaction from the rabid aboriginal activists would make these illegal blockades look pale in comparison.
 

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CN train engine collides with wooden pallets at Tyendinaga

The takedown of a Tyendinaga Mohawk blockade on CN Railway tracks at a level crossing east Belleville on Monday hasn’t ended disruptions in the area for rail officials trying to reopen the Toronto-Montreal corridor after nearly three weeks of hundreds of freight train cancellations.
A second protest group of local Mohawks camped not far down the tracks near the original protest site continue to hamper CN officials and Ontario Provincial Police working to get freight and passenger train traffic moving again.
A Canadian National Railway engine collided Wednesday with wooden pallets strewn across the tracks near the second encampment of Tyendinaga Mohawk demonstrators along the tracks at a Highway 49 CN overpass.
Demonstrators were witnessed dragging debris Wednesday morning toward a patch of scorched earth on the railway tracks where a burning tire was thrown Monday evening.
Ontario Provincial Police were on scene to counter protester efforts to block further rail traffic.
As of press time, it’s not known if any of the demonstrators at the second camp were taken into custody by uniformed officers.
Ten protesters arrested Monday, meanwhile, at the first location, have been charged by Lennox and Addington OPP with various offences including disobeying a court order, resisting arrest and mischief of more than $5,000.
One protester was charged with obstruction of a police officer.
Those charged have been ordered to appear in court March 24.
The arrests have upset members of the Tyendinaga Mohawk Council who chided federal officials for the police operation Monday to remove protesters after Indigenous Services Minister Marc Miller had met earlier with the Wyman Road protesters and pledged further dialogue.
Amnesty International Canada, meanwhile, issued an open letter to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and posted the letter on its website Tuesday.
The organization said it visited the Tyendinaga Mohawk protesters in the hours after Monday’s arrests.
Alex Neve, secretary general, wrote in the letter his organization “visited Tyendinaga today, in the aftermath of the Ontario Provincial Police’s enforcement action which has reportedly resulted in the arrest of 10 protesters. It was notable to us that all community members we spoke with described a feeling of betrayal and broken trust, particularly given the dialogue that had begun with Minister Miller on February 15th, reiterated in his assurance to Tyendinaga leadership the following day, in his letter of February 16th, that he ‘welcome the invitation to talk again in the near future to continue our open and respectful dialogue.’”
Neve informed Trudeau “we appreciated the restraint that your government demonstrated in the initial phases of the blockades” noting the “call for patience is particularly inappropriate with respect to the Wet’suwet’en people, who have waited for 23 years for their land rights to be recognized following the groundbreaking 1997 Supreme Court of Canada Delgamuukw decision; and for the Tyendinga Mohawks who have waited for over 170 years for the return of their lands taken as part of the Culbertson Tract.”
“While your government did initially show remarkable restraint, you have of course in the end given a nod to enforcement action, which is now being pursued by national, provincial and municipal police forces across the country. That enforcement will not bring resolution to the deep concerns that underly these rights struggles and protests.”
Amnesty called upon the prime minister to “ensure that land defenders are not criminalized and that people who have been arrested for defending the land and who have not engaged in acts of criminal violence are released unconditionally.”
Among other recommendations, Neve urged Trudeau “engage directly and personally in discussions with Indigenous chiefs, elected and hereditary, so as to demonstrate that you recognize that these are not simply matters of barricades and law enforcement, but are the very essence of a respectful and rights regarding nation-to-nation relationship.”
 

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How long is it going to take for the indians to settle down and be ok with it all?

Because that's the deal.
 

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Did Pilsner foresee this day coming?



BTW can you count the rabbits?

 

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‘Disappointment, fear and anger:” Indigenous communities blindsided by Teck's decision to pull Frontier project
CALGARY – Ron Quintal was barbecuing with his family on Sunday when he received a text from one of Teck Resources Ltd.’s vice-presidents, requesting an urgent phone call.
“I thought it was an invite to Ottawa,” said Quintal, president of the Fort McKay Metis Nation, noting that he expected good news and to attend a ceremony approving the project this week. “It’s devastating,” he said.
The Fort McKay Metis was one of the 14 Indigenous groups that had signed benefits agreements with Vancouver-based Teck for Frontier, a proposed 260,000 barrels per day oilsands mine that would have required 7,000 people to build it.
Quintal said Teck leadership had been in meetings for four consecutive days and came to the decision Sunday afternoon. The cancellation of the project has come as a “shock” to his community.
Now, Quintal said, his members are asking him, “What the hell is going on?”
On Sunday night, Vancouver-based Teck announced it was withdrawing its application to build the 270,000-barrel-per-day oilsands mine in northern Alberta just days before Ottawa was set to approve the project.
Like other companies that have recently pulled major projects planned to be built in Canada, Teck president and CEO Don Lindsay said in a letter to federal environment minister Jonathan Wilkinson, his company was concerned that Frontier had become a symbol and a victim of a broader debate about resource development and climate change.
“The growing debate around this issue has placed Frontier and our company squarely at the nexus of much broader issues that need to be resolved,” Lindsay wrote. “In that context, it is now evident that there is no constructive path forward for the project.”
The decision left Indigenous communities, competing oil and gas companies and the broader Alberta business community grappling with “disappointment, fear and anger” on Monday morning, as the decision reverberated through the province, Quintal said.
“They’re a Canadian-based company that did everything right. If one of our own can’t get a project built, then who can?” Quintal said, adding that the cancellation should cause deep introspection across the country. “You don’t just look at a $20-billion project walking away without taking it seriously.”
Similarly, Fort McKay First Nation Chief Mel Grandjamb said in a release Monday afternoon he was “disappointed” by Teck’s decision to shelve the project, adding that his nation had been working with the company on the project since 2008.
“Teck’s decision follows in the wake of a national debate about resource development, climate change, environmental protections and Indigenous interests,” Grandjamb said, adding, “Responsible resource development can be a meaningful tool for reconciliation when it also recognizes Canada’s obligation to protect Treaty rights.”
To many in Alberta’s business community, the cancellation of Frontier is a continuation of a larger pattern of major companies withdrawing large projects. In the past five years, TC Energy Corp. has cancelled plans for its $15-billion Energy East pipeline, Petronas Bhd withdrew its $36-billion Pacific NorthWest LNG proposal, CNOOC Ltd. scrapped its $28-billion Aurora LNG project and Exxon Mobil Corp. pulled the application for its $25-billion West Coast Canada LNG project.
“The root of all this is our country is not united behind a vision to develop resources in a responsible way that manages climate change,” Adam Legge, Business Council of Alberta CEO, said on Monday.
The Business Council of Alberta is calling on Ottawa to launch a royal commission to develop a framework and plan for resource development and climate change in Canada in an attempt to address the concerns raised in Lindsay’s letter.
Legge said that if a consensus can be reached on these issues, it’s possible that Teck’s Frontier project could be resurrected. “I just don’t know how we can get to that national consensus,” he said.
In the meantime, he said it’s disappointing that 14 Indigenous communities lost out on potential jobs and benefits agreements with Teck for the project. “These opportunities don’t come around very often in the remote areas of our country,” Legge said.
The shock withdrawal of the Teck’s application will have implications for oil and gas producers outside of the oilsands trying to attract investment, said Grant Fagerheim, president and CEO of Whitecap Resources Inc., which produces light oil in Alberta and Saskatchewan.
Fagerheim said he received two calls from international shareholders on Monday morning — one from the U.S. and one from the U.K. – asking for an explanation of what would have led to this decision.
“The loser at the end of the day is the Canadian public,” Fagereheim said.
The cancellation of Frontier also underscores the political risk investors now face when looking at putting their money into Canadian companies.
“Investors look very carefully at the risks they face,” said Kevin Neveu, CEO of Precision Drilling Corp., noting that most oil and gas investors putting their money in Canada are focused on geological or seasonal risks. “They have a hard time analyzing political risks.”
The cancellation of Frontier – amid a broader debate about major projects, pipelines and rail blockades – is particularly difficult for foreign investors to understand. “It’s really hard for investors to figure out public sentiment if they’re not living inside the country,” Neveu said.
Neveu said his company has worked hard to reduce the environmental impact of its operations, but Canadian resource companies don’t get credit for the work they’ve done.
Indeed, Explorers and Producers Association of Canada president Tristan Goodman said domestic oil and gas companies have worked to reduce their emissions and demonstrate that the Canadian sector can be part of the response to climate change.
“We do have a climate problem that we as a nation have to show leadership on,” said Goodman, whose industry group represents small- to mid-sized oil and gas companies.
At the same time, Goodman said, oil and gas continue to be in demand in both developed and developing countries. While Canadian projects are blocked, competing oil companies in other countries are rushing to meet that demand.
“The cancellation of something like this reverberates so far outside of Canada,” Goodman said. “Investors are increasingly nervous putting their money into this country.”
business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/disappointment-fear-and-anger-indigenous-communities-blindsided-by-tecks-decision-to-pull-frontier-project


There is certainly something different between the way things are done in America and how there are done in Canada. In America they appear to be quite pro business. Climate change and the environment does not get in the way of big projects all that much anymore in America thanks to Donald Trump. Trump has relaxed plenty of environmental rules and regulations that have gotten in the way of trying to help companies get their big projects up and running. And the American Indians appear to have no problem signing agreements. In Canada trying to get a project and jobs going seems to be quite the task. I guess that there really is a difference between capitalism in America and liberal socialism in Canada. I could be wrong, but that is what I am seeing here.
 

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Terry Glavin: Uphold the rights of all Indigenous Canadians, not just anti-pipeliners

If Ottawa intends to usurp the rights of all those Aboriginal people who want the pipeline built, then Trudeau should come right out and say so

You’d think the country was convulsing in an apprehended insurrection or something. It isn’t. It is a very big deal, in its way, with tens of thousands of frustrated commuters and ships idled in the harbours and so on. There’s a lot of public aggravation and a whole lot of shouting and crazy rhetoric. But the flag is still flying on government buildings. People really need to calm down.

So let’s start there, and let’s also remember that while all the roadblock banners and the chanted slogans loudly declare that the point of it all is “Wet’suwet’en solidarity” and “reconciliation” and so on, that doesn’t make it true. If you’ve found yourself enraged by all this stuff, don’t blame the Wet’suwet’en. And don’t assume that these eruptions are even about Indigenous people, or about reconciliation, at all.

I cut my teeth as a cub reporter up in the Gitxsan and Wet’suwet’en territories. My first book was about their traditions and their laws and their courageous land-rights struggles. I spent years reporting from the front lines of Aboriginal rights battles. And the thing about all the goings-on right now that we’re being led to believe were kicked off by a rumpus involving the Unistoten blockaders on that remote stretch of the Morice River, is that the people now shouting the loudest about these things seem to be less literate about Indigenous rights and title than Canadians were, say, 20 years ago. Somewhere along the way, a strange thing happened.

It’s not just because the terminology has changed, although that’s part of it, too. The very reason we’re all using the term “Indigenous” now instead of “Aboriginal” is because of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, which is being waved around like holy writ, as though it’s come down to us from Mount Sinai, and as though the RCMP and Coastal GasLink are committing sins somehow proscribed by UNDRIP. They’re not. So let’s get that sorted right away.

If you take the time to read the whole thing you should notice that there isn’t really much to UNDRIP that in any substantial way adds to what was already there in Canadian law, in Section 35 of the Constitution Act, and in the way the Aboriginal rights section has been interpreted by judges in a clear and fairly steady and perfectly comprehensible line of reasoning, going back several years now, through the Sparrow decision and Vanderpeet vs. The Queen and Gladstone and Delgamuukw and Tsil’qot’in and on and on.

Somewhere along the way, a great many people seem to have gotten it into their heads that the doctrine of Aboriginal rights is intended as some kind of collective atonement, a penance in the form of some sort of national affirmative action program for Canada’s 600-odd First Nations communities. But that’s not what Aboriginal rights are for, and that’s not the point, in law, of reconciliation.

The current weirdness is at least partly attributable to a sappy, anti-historical and hyper-problematized comprehension of the challenges Indigenous communities face that is encouraged and epitomized by the diction and the tone and the tenor of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau himself, whenever he addresses these questions. Trudeau gives every impression that he thinks interminably apologizing for how wicked the rest of us have been, and continue to be, is what leadership is. And that what’s needed in order to give effect to this great civic virtue we’ve come to call “reconciliation” is to subject the whole damn country to some kind of never-ending shock therapy consciousness-raising teach-in exercise. Despite what the far-right has been saying, that’s all that he shares with the protesters. But in any case, that is not what’s needed.

For years — decades — Canadians in the main have been alert and acutely willing to assist in the restoration of flourishing, proud and healthy First Nations communities. One public opinion poll after another shows this to be true. Just this week, Ipsos-Reid’s polling shows that three-quarters of Canadians say Ottawa needs to immediately act to elevate the quality of life among Indigenous peoples.

That’s up 12 per cent from seven years ago. What the Ipsos-Reid numbers also show is that Canadians are getting fed up with all the disruptions over the past three weeks — 63 per cent want the police to take care of it. There is absolutely no contradiction in these numbers.

Canadians are starting to figure out that the main reason people are shutting down highways and commuter lines and seaports is because they can. Fair play to all the white “allies” who think they’re actually doing some good by acting like this, but come on. It’s cathartic and it’s fun and exciting and you don’t even get arrested. You can tell yourself you’re part of something big that’s going on, that you’re “making a difference,” and if anyone gives you backchat you can start comparing yourself with Rosa Parks and Mohandas Gandhi and Martin Luther King. But if what you really want is to shut down the whole liquefied natural gas complex that will be pouring product through the Coastal GasLink pipeline, which all those Indigenous communities from the Peace River country to the Gitga’at territories out on Pacific want to build and benefit from, then say so. Have the courage of your convictions.

Stop using a minority faction led by eight Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs as your pretext. You don’t even need it. You’ve got a point.

Most of that LNG is bound for China, and China isn’t using LNG to wean itself off coal. China is shutting down and scaling back its coal production all right, but it’s dodging its commitments to the Paris climate accord by digging more coal mines and building out more coal-fired electrical-generating capacity in Central Asia, South Asia and Africa than all of Europe’s coal capacity, combined.

As for the Wet’suwet’en imbroglio and its federally induced dysfunction of Indian Act band council jurisdictions competing with tribal council jurisdiction, the Assembly of First Nations’ Perry Bellegarde is quite right that Ottawa should have dealt with that years ago. For the time being, though, the main thing Ottawa should do is to admit that the honour of the Crown is at stake here, as successive Supreme Court of Canada rulings have stressed, and that the Crown in Right of Canada is burdened by a constitutionally derived fiduciary duty to protect and uphold the Aboriginal rights and title of all those First Nation communities along the pipeline route who want to get on with building it.

Aboriginal rights under Section 35(1) of the Constitution are not confined to such things as Indigenous people putting on button blankets and cedar hats to give drum and dance performances for you at Nathan Phillips Square in Toronto. Aboriginal rights are very real, and meaningful, and enforceable, and West of the Rockies wherever there are no treaties in place, Aboriginal title confers upon First Nations the right to decide how traditional lands are used, and the right to benefit in a contemporary manner from those uses, to dig mines, to engage in industrial forestry, and to build pipelines. That’s the law.

If Ottawa intends to infringe upon or usurp the Aboriginal rights of all those Indigenous people who want the pipeline, then the Trudeau government should come right out and say so. Either way, Ottawa should uphold the honour of the Crown, discharge its fiduciary duty to those Indigenous communities, and uphold the damn law.

nationalpost.com/opinion/terry-glavin-uphold-the-rights-of-all-indigenous-canadians-not-just-anti-pipeliners

In the meantime the illegal blockades continue and the spineless little twit and his ineffectual ministers 'hope' they come down. I didn't get the Conservative MPs name who said this but he nailed it. "Hope is not a management tool."