Impeach Biden!

[Twin_Moose]

So question; if someone in the Obama Admin had whistleblow against him, would you be just as suspicious/disbelieving?

It would depend if it were an actual whistle blower with first hand information, Obama's treatment of whistle blowers was much harsher than Trump's. Take Manning as an example imprisoned, sex change, pardoned on his way out of office.

I withheld judgement on the Ukrainian report until it came out the whistleblower was a set up and the actual transcript was released, and yes it was a transcript and Vindman testified that it was accurate from the phone call.

 

[Hoid]

Pardoning Manning was harsh?

Is harsh another one of those words you don't understand?

 

[Twin_Moose]

Pardoning Manning was harsh?
Is harsh another one of those words you don't understand?

Playing silly bugger again I see since that is all you criticized in the post.

 

[Hoid]

It was the funniest part.

 

[Serryah]

It would depend if it were an actual whistle blower with first hand information, Obama's treatment of whistle blowers was much harsher than Trump's. Take Manning as an example imprisoned, sex change, pardoned on his way out of office.

Wait...


So because Manning was Trans and got hormone treatments and then later GRS that somehow equals... harsh treatment?


Just a little confused what her trans status has to do with her being a whistleblower.


Also, by definition a whistleblower doesn't HAVE to have first hand information to be a whistleblower. That's why when they make a report about something, it's investigated and OTHER people agree or not if it's credible.

As for Manning herself... I'm still not sure if she's a whistleblower or traitor.

I withheld judgement on the Ukrainian report until it came out the whistleblower was a set up and the actual transcript was released, and yes it was a transcript and Vindman testified that it was accurate from the phone call.

It was a set up? Unbiased source to prove that?

 

[Twin_Moose]

Wait...
So because Manning was Trans and got hormone treatments and then later GRS that somehow equals... harsh treatment?
Just a little confused what her trans status has to do with her being a whistleblower.
Also, by definition a whistleblower doesn't HAVE to have first hand information to be a whistleblower. That's why when they make a report about something, it's investigated and OTHER people agree or not if it's credible.
As for Manning herself... I'm still not sure if she's a whistleblower or traitor.

Would he had gone through with the surgery if she didn't go to jail over releasing sensitive material because they wouldn't follow up on his whistle blower concerns?

It was a set up? Unbiased source to prove that?

Google WaPo they gave Shifty 4 Pinocchio's for his lie not meeting the whistleblower before the report was released.

Oh wait you won't look it up anyway so here

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...ives-schiff-four-pinocchios-for-whistleblower

If the Hill isn't good enough right from the Horses mouth

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...m-his-committee-had-not-spoken-whistleblower/

 

[Serryah]

Would he had gone through with the surgery if she didn't go to jail over releasing sensitive material because they wouldn't follow up on his whistle blower concerns?

What's her trans status, again, have to do with anything, other than you implying it was somehow harsh treatment? You DO know for such procedures you have to have patient consent?

Whether she would go through the transition or not has NOTHING to do with anything.

Google WaPo they gave Shifty 4 Pinocchio's for his lie not meeting the whistleblower before the report was released.

Oh wait you won't look it up anyway so here

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...ives-schiff-four-pinocchios-for-whistleblower

If the Hill isn't good enough right from the Horses mouth

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...m-his-committee-had-not-spoken-whistleblower/

Actually I would have.


But usually in a situation like this, you make a claim you say is somehow an example or fact, it's up to the person stating it back it up, aka "do your work".


After reading those articles, I'm not sure it was a 'set up' per say but I do think Schiff fuked the dog in this and I can see why there are questions about the whole thing.


And you may have had a point, if other people did not confirm since it all came out that yes, Trump WAS doing what the whistleblower complaint said he was doing.


Should Schiff be looked into for any possible foreknowledge? Yep.

Does it change anything? Nope.

 

[Twin_Moose]

What's her trans status, again, have to do with anything, other than you implying it was somehow harsh treatment? You DO know for such procedures you have to have patient consent?
Whether she would go through the transition or not has NOTHING to do with anything.
Actually I would have.
But usually in a situation like this, you make a claim you say is somehow an example or fact, it's up to the person stating it back it up, aka "do your work".
After reading those articles, I'm not sure it was a 'set up' per say but I do think Schiff fuked the dog in this and I can see why there are questions about the whole thing.
And you may have had a point, if other people did not confirm since it all came out that yes, Trump WAS doing what the whistleblower complaint said he was doing.
Should Schiff be looked into for any possible foreknowledge? Yep.
Does it change anything? Nope.

It was posted on the forums a few times when it happened, sorry you missed it

And btw I could care less if he transitioned to her and it was their choice, and at the time she said she did it partly because she was to be jailed for a long time and he was being abused in Leavenworth. It was a way to get out

I maybe wrong about the abuse reason I thought I read it somewhere

 

[Serryah]

It was posted on the forums a few times when it happened, sorry you missed it

And btw I could care less if he transitioned to her and it was their choice, and at the time she said she did it partly because she was to be jailed for a long time and he was being abused in Leavenworth. It was a way to get out

I maybe wrong about the abuse reason I thought I read it somewhere

Usually someone who is trans DOES get abused when in prison worse than the 'normal' inmate. It's why there are some prisons who have 'alternate lifestyle' sections. But I doubt the military has that. (I checked, Leavenworth doesn't)



She's female, she should'a went to a female prison. Instead she went to the all male housing.



If you mean the harsh treatment she got was from people in the prison itself, I could understand it. Yet from the way you wrote your post, it read as if you thought Manning transitioning was somehow harsh treatment.


Maybe you meant it sarcastically, considering the rest of what you said.

 

[pgs]

With the recent cases of Jessica Yaniv, Morgane Oger, Fallon Fox, and Rachel MacKinnon, it is clear Transgender people deserve no special rights.

Most Transgender are mentally ill, sexually deviant, or pretending to be Transgender to game the system.

If a transgender wants to be accepted, he or she should accept the way society is. The problem is they want special rights, and most hate women.

I sometimes long for the old days, where these freaks would be put in their place by alpha males, after imposing their lifestyle on others. A few boots to the head usually is enough to keep them in-line

Come now , those are fine upstanding citizens you are talking about . As long as they inhabit your daughters locker room and not mine .

 

[Twin_Moose]

Usually someone who is trans DOES get abused when in prison worse than the 'normal' inmate. It's why there are some prisons who have 'alternate lifestyle' sections. But I doubt the military has that. (I checked, Leavenworth doesn't)
She's female, she should'a went to a female prison. Instead she went to the all male housing.
If you mean the harsh treatment she got was from people in the prison itself, I could understand it. Yet from the way you wrote your post, it read as if you thought Manning transitioning was somehow harsh treatment.
Maybe you meant it sarcastically, considering the rest of what you said.

I meant the way she was being treated in jail for being a leaker, he had it rough before Leavenworth and announced her intentions leaving court on the way to Leavenworth. That's why I wrote would He/She have had the surgery if the whistle blower report would have been handled properly before He decided to leak it to WikiLeaks?

 

[Twin_Moose]

Feinstein on the fence over impeachment wow

Feinstein stirs confusion with comments on impeachment vote

 

[Serryah]

I meant the way she was being treated in jail for being a leaker, he had it rough before Leavenworth and announced her intentions leaving court on the way to Leavenworth. That's why I wrote would He/She have had the surgery if the whistle blower report would have been handled properly before He decided to leak it to WikiLeaks?

And still has nothing to do with her being trans, other than someone who is being sent to an all male facility. Considering the fact at the time anyone who was trans and came out as trans in the military was doing so illegally at one point, and then still not a 'good thing' even after DADT was revoked, it's no wonder she didn't 'announce it' beforehand.


As for having the surgery if things had been handled properly - I don't know, nor does anyone; depends if she would have stayed in the military or not. If not, likely she still would have transitioned. Most people who are trans do have some sort of surgery at some point to help with the dysphoria.

 

[Hoid]

I meant the way she was being treated in jail for being a leaker, he had it rough before Leavenworth

I'm guessing you watched a story on ET or TMZ?

 

[Mockingbird]

How do you know he didn't?

Show me where Trump investigated Biden previous to 2019...

 

[Hoid]

It was and is congress's job to investigate Biden.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Show me where Trump investigated Biden previous to 2019...

If I brought out Trump had interest in Biden before his POTUS bid in April 2019 will you admit that the Dems. were wrong?

 

[Hoid]

Everything the Dems said Trump did has been corroborated by witnesses

 

[Twin_Moose]

Yeah whatever, and manufactured and hid a lot as well

 

[Hoid]

But on the Biden quid pro quo let's get the Republican congress to explain themselves on that one.

I agree with you there

Obviously everyone knew about it

How come only Trump gets in trouble for doing it?