The British Election

NZDoug

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Corbyn stands for helping the poor, want to dump the Trident Nuke Sub Programme along with Scotland, and wants to recognise Palestine!
He want to stop weapons sales to Saudi Arabia !!!
How much horrible can it get?
 

Blackleaf

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Corbyn stands for helping the poor, want to dump the Trident Nuke Sub Programme along with Scotland, and wants to recognise Palestine!
He want to stop weapons sales to Saudi Arabia !!!
How much horrible can it get?

He's a Socialist, so we'll end up in the mess that other Socialist states, like Venezuela and 1970s Britain, are or were in.

He's anti-British. Not only is he willing to break up the most successful political union in history just to get power, he also supports Britain's enemies and terrorist organisations, such as the IRA, Hamas and Hezbollah. The Labour Party are a racist party, and thousands of Jews are preparing to flee the country in the event of it taking power, reminiscent of what happened in Germany when the Nazis took power. He also celebrated 9/11. After it happened, he told the Commons: "What goes around comes around." It's no wonder that one global organisation recently called Corbyn the most dangerous individual ever to be on the brink of leading a country in the history of the West. Corbyn and his Labour Party are a deeply dangerous, racist and sinister bunch. That is why we need to vote Conservative on Thursday.
 

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Corbyn stands for helping the poor, want to dump the Trident Nuke Sub Programme along with Scotland, and wants to recognise Palestine!
He want to stop weapons sales to Saudi Arabia !!!
How much horrible can it get?

He's a Socialist, so we'll end up in the mess that other Socialist states, like Venezuela and 1970s Britain, are or were in.

He's anti-British. Not only is he willing to break up the most successful political union in history just to get power, he also supports Britain's enemies and terrorist organisations, such as the IRA, Hamas and Hezbollah. He wants to get rid of Britain's nuclear weapons, leaving the country more vulnerable to attack. The Labour Party are a racist party, and thousands of Jews are preparing to flee the country in the event of it taking power, reminiscent of what happened in Germany when the Nazis took power. He also celebrated 9/11. After it happened, he told the Commons: "What goes around comes around." It's no wonder that one global organisation recently called Corbyn the most dangerous individual ever to be on the brink of leading a country in the history of the West. Corbyn and his Labour Party are a deeply dangerous, racist and sinister bunch. That is why we need to vote Conservative on Thursday. If Labour win, then the British economy is ****ed, there'll be no Brexit and I shudder to think of what they'll do to Jews.
 

Blackleaf

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Oh, Jeremy Corbyn!
Da youth vote could pull this off!

Imagine winning an election on the votes of people who know almost nothing.

I'd rather it be decided by the votes of the wiser older folk.
 

NZDoug

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He's a Socialist, so we'll end up in the mess that other Socialist states, like Venezuela and 1970s Britain, are or were in.
He's anti-British. Not only is he willing to break up the most successful political union in history just to get power, he also supports Britain's enemies and terrorist organisations, such as the IRA, Hamas and Hezbollah. He wants to get rid of Britain's nuclear weapons, leaving the country more vulnerable to attack. The Labour Party are a racist party, and thousands of Jews are preparing to flee the country in the event of it taking power, reminiscent of what happened in Germany when the Nazis took power. He also celebrated 9/11. After it happened, he told the Commons: "What goes around comes around." It's no wonder that one global organisation recently called Corbyn the most dangerous individual ever to be on the brink of leading a country in the history of the West. Corbyn and his Labour Party are a deeply dangerous, racist and sinister bunch. That is why we need to vote Conservative on Thursday. If Labour win, then the British economy is ****ed, there'll be no Brexit and I shudder to think of what they'll do to Jews.
He wants to nationalise the railways, how horrible.
Corbyn has no problems with Jewish people,, he's against the murder, theft and lies of the state of Israel.
Israel was founded on terrorism, only they have been the wedge to split and destroy the wealth of the Middle East.I have followed the situation daily for over 20 years.
My first cousin was in the original Canadian Peacekeeping force I n Israel in 1967, and he always told me, things aint how they tell ya.
If you really want some insight into this, I recommend you study Pity the Nation: The Abduction of Lebanon by Robert Fisk.
https://www.amazon.com/Pity-Nation-Abduction-Lebanon-Books/dp/1560254424
also,
The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East by the same author.
https://www.amazon.com/Great-War-Ci...civilisation+,stripbooks-intl-ship,439&sr=1-3
Robert Fisk, you may have heard of him.
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Fisk has lived in Beirut since 1976,[12] remaining throughout the Lebanese Civil War. He was one of the first journalists to visit the scene of the Sabra and Shatila massacre in Lebanon, as well as the Syrian Hama Massacre. His book on the Lebanese conflict, Pity the Nation, was first published in 1990.
Fisk also reported on the Soviet–Afghan War, the Iran–Iraq War, the Arab–Israeli conflict, the Gulf War, the Kosovo War, the Algerian Civil War, the Bosnian War, the 2001 international intervention in Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the Arab Spring in 2011 and the ongoing Syrian Civil War. During the Iran–Iraq War, he suffered partial but permanent hearing loss as a result of being close to Iraqi heavy artillery in the Shatt-al-Arab when covering the early stages of the conflict.[13]
After the United States and allies launched their intervention in Afghanistan, Fisk was for a time transferred to Pakistan to provide coverage of the conflict. While reporting from there, he was attacked and beaten by a group of Afghan refugees fleeing heavy bombing by the United States Air Force. He was ultimately rescued from this attack by another Afghan refugee. In his graphic account of his own beating, Fisk absolved the attackers of responsibility and pointed out that their "brutality was entirely the product of others, of us—of we who had armed their struggle against the Russians and ignored their pain and laughed at their civil war and then armed and paid them again for the 'War for Civilisation' just a few miles away and then bombed their homes and ripped up their families and called them 'collateral damage.'"[14]
During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Fisk was based in Baghdad and filed many eyewitness reports. He has criticised other journalists based in Iraq for what he calls their "hotel journalism", reporting from one's hotel room without interviews or first hand experience of events.[15] His opposition to the war brought criticism from both Irish Sunday Independent columnist and senator, Eoghan Harris,[16] and The Guardian columnist, Simon Hoggart.[17] Fisk has criticised the Coalition's handling of the sectarian violence in post-invasion Iraq, and argued that the official narrative of sectarian conflict is not possible: "The real question I ask myself is: who are these people who are trying to provoke the civil war? Now the Americans will say it's Al Qaeda, it's the Sunni insurgents. It is the death squads. Many of the death squads work for the Ministry of Interior. Who runs the Ministry of Interior in Baghdad? Who pays the Ministry of the Interior? Who pays the militia men who make up the death squads? We do, the occupation authorities. (…) We need to look at this story in a different light."[18]
Reporting from Douma, Syria, Fisk suggests the Douma chemical attack never happened, quoting a Syrian doctor who attributed the victims' breathing problems not to gas but to dust and lack of oxygen after heavy shelling by Assad forces.[19]
Osama bin Laden[edit]
Fisk interviewed Osama bin Laden on three occasions, reporting the interviews in articles published by The Independent on 6 December 1993, 10 July 1996, and 22 March 1997. In Fisk's first interview, "Anti-Soviet warrior puts his army on the road to peace," he wrote of Osama Bin Laden: "With his high cheekbones, narrow eyes and long brown robe, Mr Bin Laden looks every inch the mountain warrior of mujahedin legend. Chadored children danced in front of him, preachers acknowledged his wisdom" while noting that he was accused of "training for further jihad wars".[20]
During one of Fisk's interviews with Bin Laden, Fisk noted an attempt by Bin Laden to convert him. Bin Laden said; "Mr Robert, one of our brothers had a dream...that you were a spiritual person ... this means you are a true Muslim". Fisk replied; "Sheikh Osama, I am not a Muslim. ... I am a journalist [whose] task is to tell the truth". Bin Laden replied: "If you tell the truth, that means you are a good Muslim".[21][22] During the 1996 interview, Bin Laden accused the Saudi royal family of corruption. During the final interview in 1997, Bin Laden said he sought God's help "to turn America into a shadow of itself".[23]
Fisk strongly condemned the September 11 attacks, describing them as a "hideous crime against humanity". He also denounced the Bush administration's response to the attacks, arguing that "a score of nations" were being identified and positioned as "haters of democracy" or "kernels of evil", and urged a more honest debate on U.S. policy in the Middle East. He argued that such a debate had hitherto been avoided "because, of course, to look too closely at the Middle East would raise disturbing questions about the region, about our Western policies in those tragic lands, and about America's relationship with Israel".[24]
In 2007, Fisk expressed personal doubts about the official historical record of the attacks. In an article for The Independent, he claimed that, while the Bush administration was incapable of successfully carrying out such attacks due to its organisational incompetence, he is "increasingly troubled at the inconsistencies in the official narrative of 9/11" and added that he does not condone the "crazed 'research' of David Icke, but is "talking about scientific issues".[25] Fisk had earlier addressed similar concerns in a speech at Sydney University in 2006.[26] During the speech, Fisk said: "Partly I think because of the culture of secrecy of the White House, never have we had a White House so secret as this one. Partly because of this culture, I think suspicions are growing in the United States, not just among Berkeley guys with flowers in their hair. (...) But there are a lot of things we don't know, a lot of things we're not going to be told. (...) Perhaps the [fourth] plane was hit by a missile, we still don't know".[27]
Bill Durodie notes that "recently published compilation of Osama bin Laden’s writings reveals how frequently he is inclined to cite Western writers, Western diplomats and Western thinkers. At one point he even advises the White House to read Robert Fisk, rather than, as one might have supposed, the Koran.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fisk
 

Blackleaf

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Corbyn has no problems with Jewish people,

He's the leader of an anti-Semitic party whose members just cannot prevent themselves from making vile anti-Semitic comments. The Labour Party is so racist that it's being investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. The only other party investigated by that organisation is the BNP. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany, thousands of Jews have pledged to leave the country should Labour win the election. One organisation recently called Corbyn the most dangerous individual ever to stand for election in the West. It's not only Labour's policy against the Jews, either. It's also the fact that it's a Marxist party who would bring ruin to this country. Unemployment would shoot up and everyone will be poorer. Britain would also be lead by an anti-British party that cares nothing about British defence and security and the British PM would be s man who openly celebrated 9/11.

Corbyn and his racist, dangerous, party need to br kept well away from power - and I think they are going to be annihilated tomorrow by Johnson's Tories.
 

Blackleaf

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With just 6 hours till polling stations open, polls still suggest Boris will get a majority:



 

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STEPHEN GLOVER: We stand on the brink of insanity. How can we British even consider plunging in and casting our vote for a Marxist prime minister and a Marxist chancellor?

By Stephen Glover for the Daily Mail
11 Dec 2019



When I go out to vote later today in what is surely the most momentous election in a hundred years, I will still be puzzling over a baffling question.

How it is possible, in a supposedly sane and civilised country, that millions of decent people are intending to cast their vote for a Marxist prime minister and a Marxist chancellor?

So many of them, in fact, that I won’t be astonished if at 10pm this evening, the BBC informs us that the usually reliable exit poll has predicted a hung Parliament with a probable Labour-SNP alliance.

I don’t expect it to happen, but it might. Jeremy Corbyn could be in No 10 within days, with John McDonnell installed next door, preparing his first Budget.

The British are respected for their good sense and moderation, or used to be. But they may be about to choose an extremist government that would crash the economy and appal our traditional allies.

And even if they don’t — even if Boris Johnson wins a clear majority — the question remains as to how the not- very-bright, but definitely sinister, Labour leader could have been indulged by so many for so long.

Because, although Mr Corbyn has striven to conceal a lot about himself, much is known about him. Only someone who had spent the past five years at the South Pole without any communication could reasonably claim ignorance.



We know he presides over a party in which anti-Semitism is rife. During the ITV leaders’ debate last month, he declared: ‘Where anyone has committed any anti-Semitic acts or made any anti-Semitic statements, they are either suspended or expelled from the party.’

But this is not true. Leaked confidential Labour files reveal that 136 cases of alleged anti-Semitism remain outstanding, even though the vast majority were reported to the party more than 18 months ago.

Anti-Semites often face lenient sanctions, or none at all, and are allowed to continue abusing Jewish members. Extreme complaints about incitement to racial hatred, and calls for a second genocide against the Jews, have remained unresolved for months or years.

It’s clear Mr Corbyn either tolerates anti-Semitism in his party, notwithstanding his repeated denials, or is notably half-hearted in trying to extirpate it.

Isn’t it shocking that a major party in a modern democracy should harbour people whose racist views wouldn’t have been out of place in Germany in the Thirties?

And mightn’t one expect voters to recoil in horror? Some do, of course, but millions shrug their shoulders and will today place a cross in the box marked Labour.

Perhaps it’s unfair to blame them when The Guardian, which has a proud record as a liberal newspaper, briefly considered the charges of anti-Semitism against Mr Corbyn in an editorial yesterday, before sweeping them aside and urging its readers to vote Labour.

If Mr Corbyn were a saint and a genius in every other respect, the stain of anti-Semitism would be enough to disqualify him as the leader of our country. But there are many other blemishes.

When the IRA was waging war against the British State, and committing numerous acts of terrorism in Northern Ireland and mainland Britain, he gave succour to the organisation.

At the height of the Troubles in the Eighties, he befriended a convicted IRA terrorist, Gerard McLaughlin, and helped him obtain a council flat in Islington.

As a young MP in 1984, Mr Corbyn invited Gerry Adams, then president of the IRA’s political wing, and widely believed at the time to have been a recent active terrorist, to a meeting in the Commons. A fortnight earlier, the IRA had tried to blow up Margaret Thatcher and the rest of the Cabinet, killing five people.


Even if Boris Johnson wins a clear majoritym the question remains as to how the not-very-bright, but definitely sinister, Labour leader could have been indulged by so many for so long

Isn’t this shaming? And wasn’t his frequent association as a backbench MP with members of Hamas and Hezbollah, terrorist organisations committed to the destruction of Israel, also disgraceful? He has referred to his ‘friends’ at Hamas.

Here is someone who has spent most of his adult life arguing against Britain’s unilateral nuclear deterrent, and as recently as 2014 said he wished that Nato, the Western alliance that has kept the peace in Europe, ‘didn’t exist’.

Last year, the man who is quick to embrace this country’s enemies and slow to defend its interests upset even his own backbenchers when he refused to join Theresa May in blaming Russia for the Salisbury nerve agent attack.

No wonder Sir Richard Dearlove, a former head of MI6, recently described Mr Corbyn as a danger to national security who would pose a ‘present danger to our country’ if he became PM.

I haven’t even mentioned Labour’s madcap economic policies, which would bankrupt Britain, leading to a flight of capital and deterring foreign investors.


Don’t forget how Mr Corbyn praised Hugo Chavez’s economic stewardship of Venezuela

Don’t forget how Mr Corbyn praised Hugo Chavez’s economic stewardship of Venezuela, when it was obvious that he was an autocrat ruining his oil-rich country.

After Chavez’s death in 2013, Corbyn lauded him as someone who ‘showed us there is a different, and a better, way of doing things. It’s called socialism’.

We heard nothing from the Labour leader after Chavez’s successor, Nicolas Maduro, completed the process of impoverishment, which has led to the exodus of millions. No word of complaint when Maduro’s armed cars drove into crowds of protesters.

How can millions of sensible people be contemplating voting for the misguided Labour leader who, for all his talk of bringing our country together, is fomenting class war?

It’s not as though he has made only the odd misjudgement. Jeremy Corbyn has supported countless wicked men and innumerable bad causes, and never shown the slightest awareness of his wrong-headedness, far less any signs of contrition.

I suppose there are traditional Labour voters who don’t bother with the political fine print. And younger voters for whom IRA terrorism, and Labour’s last wrecking of the economy in the Seventies, are not even a distant memory.

And there are also millions of people who loathe Boris Johnson and so would prefer any alternative. God knows, he’s far from perfect. He sometimes tells lies, though hardly on the same scale as Mr Corbyn, whose pretence that the Tories intend to sell off the NHS is an unscrupulous piece of fantasy.

Whatever his faults, Mr Johnson doesn’t embrace the enemies of Britain. Nor does he protect racists. His policies won’t beggar us. And I think he loves his country.

Moreover, Remainers who fret about the possible economic harm of Brexit — exaggeratedly so, in my view — should reflect that Labour’s economic policies with Corbyn and McDonnell in charge would almost certainly be infinitely more damaging.

Sometimes, I think to myself that the only way for Corbyn enthusiasts to discover the true nature of the man would be to experience his incompetent and divisive rule. But that is like saying that the only way to understand pain is to have a terminal illness.

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If we are delivered today from Jeremy Corbyn, it will be largely because thousands of traditional Labour voters in the so-called ‘red wall’ stretching from Wales across the Midlands and northern England have seen through him.

This really is a moment of destiny as we hover on the brink of insanity. Despite everything, I can’t believe we British are mad enough to plunge in.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...nk-insanity-British-consider-plunging-in.html
 

Blackleaf

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Around 48 million people are eligible to vote in the election.

650 MPs are to be elected. The magic number is therefore 326 - a party needs to get 326 or more seats for a majority.
 

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Around 48 million people are eligible to vote in the election.

650 MPs are to be elected. The magic number is therefore 326 - a party needs to get 326 or more seats for a majority.
Yes but you need more if Brexit is to happen .
 

Blackleaf

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Yes but you need more if Brexit is to happen .

We just need at least 326 Tory MPs.

And don't forget, there may be some Brexit Party MPs elected, too.

And there'll be some Brexiteer Labour MPs.

And don't forget the DUP.

If Boris wins, Brexit wins.
 

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Experts are predicting the biggest turnout for decades...

'Biggest queue I've EVER seen at my polling station': Turnout looks huge as thousands are ALREADY lining up to vote in Britain's most crucial election in a generation - as Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn give final call to arms



Boris Johnson gave his dog Dilyn a big kiss as the Tory leader voted early as Britain's most important election for a generation got underway today with huge queues reported at polling stations raising hopes of a massive turnout. Mr Johnson walked the rescue puppy he shares with Carrie Symonds on the biggest day of his political life - but his partner did not accompany them to the nearest polling station to No 10 Downing Street. He was voting at the Methodist Central Hall next to Westminster Abbey rather than in his Uxbridge constituency - a highly unusual move because outgoing prime ministers traditionally vote where they are standing as candidates. It came as polling stations deserted at previous elections were packed with hundreds queuing around the block in Battersea, Clapham (left) and Brixton in London as well as in Dominic Raab's Esher and Walton constituency in Surrey today. People in Wandsworth (bottom right) said they had to wait up to 45 minutes to vote - when in the past five elections it had taken less than 5 minutes during the morning rush hour. Experts have said the crowds at some of the UK's 50,000 polling stations suggests that the turnout for an election dominated by Brexit and the NHS could the highest since the peak of the 1950s and early 1960s that saw Clement Atlee and Sir Winston Churchill battle to be PM. Minutes before he arrived to vote Boris Johnson tweeted: 'Today is our chance to get Brexit done. Vote Conservative' while Jeremy Corbyn wrote on social media: 'Vote Labour today to save our NHS, to bring about real change and create a country that works for the many, not the few'. The Labour leader, accompanied by his wife Laura, also voted early in his Islington North constituency (top right) with the result in the first December general election since 1923 said to be on a knife-edge according to polls. Millions of voters face inclement weather with torrential rain and ice predicted

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7784125/Election-2020-Boris-Johnson-voters-cast-ballot.html
 

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I hope you are posting on British websites just as diligently as you do here, BL........because not one of us are able to cast a vote..........either way. Just saying.
 

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I hope you are posting on British websites just as diligently as you do here, BL........because not one of us are able to cast a vote..........either way. Just saying.
Well.....we don't have to vote in British elections.........to be interested in the events there. Personally I appreciate having members from other nations........on here......as they can speak to the events in their respective nations....... The wold is a much smaller place now......and what happens in Britain has effects ......direct or indirect elsewhere.

Just sayin' ;-)
 

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Breaking News Tories on course to win majority - exit poll



The Conservatives are set to win an overall majority of 86 in the general election, according to an exit poll for the BBC, ITV and Sky News.

The survey taken at UK polling stations suggests the Tories will get 368 MPs - 50 more than at the 2017 election - when all the results have been counted.

Labour would get 191, the Lib Dems 13, the Brexit Party none and the SNP 55.

The Green Party will still have one MP and Plaid Cymru will lose one seat for a total of three, the survey suggests.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50765773
 

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Breaking News Tories on course to win majority - exit poll



The Conservatives are set to win an overall majority of 86 in the general election, according to an exit poll for the BBC, ITV and Sky News.

The survey taken at UK polling stations suggests the Tories will get 368 MPs - 50 more than at the 2017 election - when all the results have been counted.

Labour would get 191, the Lib Dems 13, the Brexit Party none and the SNP 55.

The Green Party will still have one MP and Plaid Cymru will lose one seat for a total of three, the survey suggests.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50765773


The New York Times is stating the same thing, BL. Hope it is true as it would be a great win for Britain.
 

Mowich

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Well.....we don't have to vote in British elections.........to be interested in the events there. Personally I appreciate having members from other nations........on here......as they can speak to the events in their respective nations....... The wold is a much smaller place now......and what happens in Britain has effects ......direct or indirect elsewhere.

Just sayin' ;-)


OB, I was addressing my remarks to BlackLeaf. Of course we are interested and can post about the election. I was merely hoping that BL was as busy posting on British sites as he was here. Okay?
 

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Result will change the House of Commons

Jeremy Vine

Presenter, BBC Radio 2

To win an overall majority in the House of Commons you need 326 seats.

Theresa May fell short in 2017, but the exit poll has Boris Johnson going straight through that 326 figure making a gain of 50 seats.

The other stand-out is just how badly Labour's showing is in the exit poll.

If they do get 191 seats it would be below what Michael Foot did in 1983.

And then there is this amazing result by the SNP - if the exit poll is correct.

This would end that period in Parliament when no-one could get anything done.

If that is what happens it would be a a stunning victory for the Conservatives.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2019-50755004