"The west wants out": Separatist sentiments growing in Alberta
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I thought we had it bad with Scotland and Spain even worse with Catalonia, but you've got Quebec AND Alberta.
Dearie me.
You're wasting bandwidth sparing with this person.
.. A troll at best... An uninformed, ignorant and small minded person is the reality
Mo.. i really do appreciate your words.
Having the opportunity to engage in a real discussion, representing any/all perspectives is what a person can only hope for on a forum like this.
You, without question, represent this ideal.
It's to bad that it comes to this, but you have had the opportunity to review the opinions of many across the country and observed the various extremes.
Our buddy from Ontario feels that the solution is to set up internment camps and construct gallows to 'cleanse' Canada of this malaise... Sadly, people like that can not see past the root issues but only perpetuate the knee-jerk reactions(s) of the status quo neo-McCarthyism of which they call home.
Okay, so in all seriousness, what does Alberta (and Sask if anyone knows) want?
The Feds to stop using tax dollars collected from all provinces to ensure some sort of equality from the 'lesser' financially stable ones to be handed out (fyi, I don't think Quebec should have any sort of hand-outs at all, no equalization payments what so ever)?
To have their oil shipped to where they want it regardless of how people outside of their province feels about it?
For Canada to use the oil Alberta produces for Canada only, or to sell it to market?
For Alberta to be treated fairly, or fairer than it is being treated and if so, how is it not and what would have to be done to treat Alberta fairer?
What would it take for this whole idea of separation to stop, because the way I see it, discussions about leaving Canada is not going to help anyone outside of Alberta and Saskatchewan take you seriously. There's enough bad blood now between everyone that many might be good with the whole Wexit idea.
Is it honestly too late, should we all just accept that there will be a Wexit and let everyone go?
The Feds to stop using tax dollars collected from all provinces to ensure some sort of equality from the 'lesser' financially stable ones to be handed out (fyi, I don't think Quebec should have any sort of hand-outs at all, no equalization payments what so ever)?
To have their oil shipped to where they want it regardless of how people outside of their province feels about it?
For Canada to use the oil Alberta produces for Canada only, or to sell it to market?
For Alberta to be treated fairly, or fairer than it is being treated and if so, how is it not and what would have to be done to treat Alberta fairer?
What would it take for this whole idea of separation to stop, because the way I see it, discussions about leaving Canada is not going to help anyone outside of Alberta and Saskatchewan take you seriously. There's enough bad blood now between everyone that many might be good with the whole Wexit idea.
Is it honestly too late, should we all just accept that there will be a Wexit and let everyone go?
Under normal circumstances I might have agreed with you.
But this isn't normal.
Which is why the questions, because this is becoming a 'thing' enough that it's making national news.
And as much as I was against Quebec leaving in 95, I'd be against this Wexit idea as well, even if it is also pizzing me off at the moment.
And that's one thing I don't get.
Kenney was part of the update to the Equalization formula, wasn't he? Now suddenly it's not fair?
I mean other than Quebec... he was okay with it before?
Feds use the cash to buy the vote in the high density jurisdictions.
This last election transformed into a pissing contest on who could gut the resource sector the fastest - nothing about gvt financial or economic responsibility, only about a feigned and insincere concern about the environment.
As for the actual equalization metric, how is it that University education is cheaper in some jurisdictions - but only for residents of that jurisdiction - and more expensive if you live or apply outside that province?... How about $20/day daycare in one place and 3-4 times more expensive everywhere else?
... Not so 'equal' in the big picture, is it?
... And if I'm not supportive of cars/trucks made in Ontario, should I be able to block their manufacturing sector and export?
Eastern Canada already imports oil from overseas (ironic and hypocritical that they believe that is eco-friendly oil but Western Cdn oil is evil)
AB and SK are treated as an ATM.... Meanwhile, the Feds and some provinces take it upon themselves to block economic activity in the West which, ironically, they (the East) fully depends on for tax revenues and equalization payments.
You tell me how much sense this makes
For decades, this has been going on and I believe that there is a very strong chance that it's already hit critical mass.
Kenney's, and EVERY OTHER MP's participation was also based on not having the Feds sworn duty to shut down Cdn energy - while fully knowing that they would have to import millions of bbls per day to keep the country moving.
Regardless, this issue comes up for renewal in a couple of years and I can't imagine the Fed gvt being able to offer anything that will keep AB and SK interested.
So they had to change to a larger venue because of the large turnout . This is in Redmonton .
100's :lol:
Wake me up when it's 1000's, then it's starting to become a real movement.
Could they have picked a better photo, the first thing that comes to mind when I see that photo is....
I would just like to add that we are tired of being the free space on the Bingo card, we feed, fuel, finance a nation but still have to sit at the kiddies table.
100's :lol:
Wake me up when it's 1000's, then it's starting to become a real movement.
Better than the 50 or so that showed up to protest Kenny's budget.
Pretty good photo then...Could they have picked a better photo, the first thing that comes to mind when I see that photo is....