The Problem With The Me. Josh Threads...

Tecumsehsbones

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hahah You are as gullible as your Trumplicans. Ask yourself "what is China's motive"?
While you are at it, check out China's human rights record.
I don't have any particular problem with China. I wouldn't want to live under their system, but I recognize that their culture, including their laws and their notions of human rights, are appropriate for their people, in the main.

Western culture and Western notions of human rights haven't exactly been all ice-cream and candy either.
 

Curious Cdn

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Do you recall which member of the loco collective gave you that term?? A truly independent thinker is not your strong suit. Chop, chop, Paris awaits you, . . . sort of.
Take the little blue pills.
 

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I don't have any particular problem with China. I wouldn't want to live under their system, but I recognize that their culture, including their laws and their notions of human rights, are appropriate for their people, in the main.

Western culture and Western notions of human rights haven't exactly been all ice-cream and candy either.


I have quite a few issues with China, but also recognize that their culture is totally, totally different from ours.


I moreso dislike how indoctrinated they are to the dictatorship ideals of the "Communist Party".


The few Chinese students I've met though here in town seem nice enough.
 

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I don't have any particular problem with China. I wouldn't want to live under their system, but I recognize that their culture, including their laws and their notions of human rights, are appropriate for their people, in the main.
That's a matter of perspective. The Chinese I have met over here all moved here for a reason; to get out from under an oppressive gov't. if you aren't a believer of Buddhism, Catholicism, Daoism, Islam, and Protestantism, you are toast unless you're hiding your religion even though there is " religious freedom" (which carries no guarantees thatyou are free of persecution by anyone or anything).

Western culture and Western notions of human rights haven't exactly been all ice-cream and candy either.
True but it's still no excuse for Eastern ones to be abusive.
 

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Oppressed enough that they had enough money to move away?? (while most people can't afford to move across the street) Perhaps China 'let' some low level crooks buy their way into a new country instead.'
 

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That's a matter of perspective. The Chinese I have met over here all moved here for a reason; to get out from under an oppressive gov't. if you aren't a believer of Buddhism, Catholicism, Daoism, Islam, and Protestantism, you are toast unless you're hiding your religion even though there is " religious freedom" (which carries no guarantees thatyou are free of persecution by anyone or anything).

The Chinese in the neighbourhood around me have all turned up with heaping pots of money and to get that out of China, they must be all good and well connected Communist Party members. You don't just stroll out of a police state dictatorship and slap down five million bucks in Canada for a McMansion with a driveway full of Mercs.

Oppressed? What's with that? There are hundreds of them here and in Vancouver who are seriously wealthy when they land.
 

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I have quite a few issues with China, but also recognize that their culture is totally, totally different from ours.
I moreso dislike how indoctrinated they are to the dictatorship ideals of the "Communist Party".
The few Chinese students I've met though here in town seem nice enough.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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That's a matter of perspective. The Chinese I have met over here all moved here for a reason; to get out from under an oppressive gov't. if you aren't a believer of Buddhism, Catholicism, Daoism, Islam, and Protestantism, you are toast unless you're hiding your religion even though there is " religious freedom" (which carries no guarantees thatyou are free of persecution by anyone or anything).
I think the only thing funnier than elevating the fairy tale of your preferred flavour to a human right is governments deciding which fairy tales they'll allow and which ones they'll suppress.
True but it's still no excuse for Eastern ones to be abusive.
My only point is that anyone cursing the Chinese as horrible bastards needs a break to look in a mirror.

I really can't see that there's anything inherently worse in the Chinese system than in the Western system. I'm just more comfortable with the Western one because I grew up in it.
 

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That's a matter of perspective. The Chinese I have met over here all moved here for a reason; to get out from under an oppressive gov't. if you aren't a believer of Buddhism, Catholicism, Daoism, Islam, and Protestantism, you are toast unless you're hiding your religion even though there is " religious freedom" (which carries no guarantees thatyou are free of persecution by anyone or anything).


True but it's still no excuse for Eastern ones to be abusive.
If the gov't wan't oppressive, why would they need to hide their money? And everyone that emigrates to here is rich? hahaha Now look who's swallowing the stereotype. There's also the constant watching. How do you think the credit system is implemented without the gov't watching every move people make 24/7?
 

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I think the only thing funnier than elevating the fairy tale of your preferred flavour to a human right is governments deciding which fairy tales they'll allow and which ones they'll suppress.

My only point is that anyone cursing the Chinese as horrible bastards needs a break to look in a mirror.

I really can't see that there's anything inherently worse in the Chinese system than in the Western system. I'm just more comfortable with the Western one because I grew up in it.
Well, you live in the USA so I can understand that.
 

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Josh,
'You do put up a good debate, almost commercial.
But consider, the West's position, your country and mine and all those of the free world.
"I pity the suffering of the slave, but I must be mum,
or where, would I get my Sugar and Rum?
A better way than killing is lie vee up yo' self,
and don't be no drag.
cheers, mate.
 
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I think the only thing funnier than elevating the fairy tale of your preferred flavour to a human right is governments deciding which fairy tales they'll allow and which ones they'll suppress.

My only point is that anyone cursing the Chinese as horrible bastards needs a break to look in a mirror.

I really can't see that there's anything inherently worse in the Chinese system than in the Western system. I'm just more comfortable with the Western one because I grew up in it.




Oh yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There are "horrible bastards" here in North America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Some of them use online names like Nut Zone Doug..............................


and MrJoshua...........................................


and T-bonesforbrains.....................................


and hemerHOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They are easily identified due to the DISGRACEFUL VOLUME of Fake News they produce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And by their habit of EXALTING the vile Trudeau clan while ignoring such things as Trudope family admiration for MASS MURDER!!!


Consider:::










There are those in Canada who desperately do not wish be believe that the Trudeau family are a pack of wretched communist revolutionaries seeking to permanently change AND DAMAGE Canada. These willfully blind Trudope supporters IGNORE all manner of evidence and cherry pick through the historical record-routinely discarding any information that does not reflect nicely through their rose coloured glasses!

LIE-berals and their followers do not wish to believe the historical record supplied by Max and Nadine Nemni-long time friends of Pierre Trudeau and staunch LIE-beral supporters. As such they were given privileged access to the voluminous writings of Our Pet. What they found about their long time friend during their writing of his biography prompts them to admit we MUST re-evaluate the position of Pierre Trudope in Cdn history.

LIE-berals scoff at the idea that Our Pet was a Nazi supporter and ignore the historical record. They DENY that Our Pet rode around suburban Montreal on his Harley Davidson wearing a Nazi army uniform-and sometimes giving the finger to Jews. They claim he only went out once on a lonely Laurention side road in a Prussian army uniform he found in the attic of his parents house-just a prank the apologists say. But such a claim defies credibility! LIE-beral defense of Trudope is laughable!

German prisoners of war were not shipped to Canada during the first world war as there was no reason to do so-they were put to work on farms and such in France and Britain. And even if some German prisoners were sent to Canada on what grounds would a grandparent Trudope purchase TWO uniforms from them and store them in the attic for 20 years.

But during the second world war-German prisoners were very frequently sent to Canada to prevent them from starting an uprising if German forces should invade Britain. With masses of Germans being sent to Canada it would be quite easy to pick up a uniform or two as temporary Nazi supporter and staunch Stalinist supporter Trudope has obviously done.

LIE-berals pick on a couple of reports that say Trudope appeared only once or twice out in the country in his alleged `Prussian` (WW1) uniform and they IGNORE other eye witness accounts of Trudope being spotted repeatedly IN Montreal in his NAZI (WW2) uniform. We may be assured that LIE-berals want to believe the best of their `hero` and so will ignore unpleasant reports!

Our Pet was a hard core communist and the Nemni`s document Pierre LEADING Cdns and others to meet with Soviet leaders in Moscow on several occasions in 1930`s. The Soviets signed a non aggression pact with Germany and this meant that Hitler became an ally of Stalin-and thus earned Trudope support. Hence, the repeated Trudope stunts in the German uniform. The Nemni`s document AND QUOTE the Trudope hostility to the `imperialist war` of Britain (and Canada) against Hitler. Soviet and Trudope friendship with Hitler ended once Nazis invaded Soviet Union.

In 1947, Trudeau was a student at the London School of Economics, founded by the Fabian Society. In the late 19th century the Fabian Society boasted an impressive list of members dedicated to alleviating conditions in what Charles Dickens referred to as the “dark satanic mills” of 19th century industrial Britain-the Fabians did good work in a time of non existent safety equipment, frequent use of child labour and repeated worker exposure to dangerous chemicals and unhealthy situations-clearly changes needed to be made! Fabian founders included H.G. Wells and George Bernard Shaw.

Sadly-the original members-responsible and sensible members of society- wanting a balanced and sensible economic operation died and were replaced by Soviet Moles- wolves in sheep’s clothing. The Fabian Society and its London School of Economics became a breeding ground for training Marxists. Professor Harold Laski, then head of the Fabian Society, was publicly advocating violent revolution at the time.

Almost twenty years later, Trudeau, about to become Prime Minister, reflected on his training and told reporter Norman DePoe that Laski is,

"the most stimulating and powerful influence he has encountered."

Its odd how many foolish things Our Pet blurted out without harming his career-and its proof that LIE-berals are far more interested in power than integrity! In the 1950`s Trudope told Toronto Telegram reporter Lubor Zink that if he ever became prime minister he “would take Canada from the past into the future via the route of radical socialism”.

Self professed life long LIE-beral supporter/journalist Peter Newman states in his book- When the Gods Changed-that the LIE-beral party lost the first election (with Paul Martin as leader) to Stephen Harper because the LIE-beral party no longer stands for anything except power and self promotion”! The same LIE-beral absence of values or real economic plan hampered Dion and Ignatieff in their runs for power. Sadly the current crop of LIE-berals have come to power thanks to their willingness to BUY civil service Working Family votes! When in doubt-BRIBE! This is what LIE-beral friends say of the party so its no wonder that others are much less complimentary!