If the US is evil, why hasn't Canada and the rest of the world destroyed them yet?

Jinentonix

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Don't listen to them Cdn.
For as long as we don't allow ourselves to be distracted by these sympathizers, we will wipe this filth known as the USA and its people from the face of the Earth. These sympathizers are weak! Feeble minded! Unwilling for change! Unprepared for it! It is a good thing they were not the leaders back in WW2 otherwise both Germany and Japan would have taken over Eurasia while they still waste time debating.
Ooooo listen to the impotent rage. Did you just recently convert to islam or something? :lol:

Oh I get it. We're supposed to be so cowed by your admonishment we'll immediately change our minds. Is that how the weak-minded people where you're from operate or something?

Well okay suck-boy Joshy, since you're demanding people describe ideas in dealing with the US without resorting to violence, why don't YOU tell us your brilliant master plan for invading and destroying the US.
What's your "Schlieffen Plan". :lol:
 

DaSleeper

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You haven't answered my question on whether these alternative solutions work? Whatever they maybe.

Or maybe it is because you can't or maybe you don't have an alternative solution to begin with, in which case my solution is the only one that works.

Go on, tell me these alternatives.
mrjoshua....If you haven't already noticed, this forum is virtually without moderation....
Or you surely would have been booted out by now...
I'm starting to think that the owner is letting this forum self-destruct...maybe it's an experiment on his part....letting the fools and fanatics run the asylum....

He just gets rid of spammers


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Hoid

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If the USA is evil why haven't they destroyed the rest of the world.

they certainly have the power to do it
 

AnnaEmber

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Don't listen to them Cdn.

For as long as we don't allow ourselves to be distracted by these sympathizers, we will wipe this filth known as the USA and its people from the face of the Earth. These sympathizers are weak! Feeble minded! Unwilling for change! Unprepared for it! It is a good thing they were not the leaders back in WW2 otherwise both Germany and Japan would have taken over Eurasia while they still waste time debating.
lol Usually it is a bad idea to underestimate an opponent. Keep proving that true while I sit here watching and eating popcorn. It's comical entertainment. You seem to be like a parody of Hitler from Mad Magazine.
Sieg heil! hahaha
 

AnnaEmber

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hehe Between Trump and China, I don't think our imperialistic, southern neighbour will last much longer. No need to make an attempt to do as Joshua suggests.
hhmmm Maybe he's a shill for the arms industry.
 

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This crap is trashing the planet.
"Ten Cautionary Tenets About Air Power"
1. Just because U.S. warplanes and drones can strike almost anywhere on the globe with relative impunity doesn’t mean that they should. Given the history of air power since World War II, ease of access should never be mistaken for efficacious results.
2. Bombing alone will never be the key to victory. If that were true, the U.S. would have easily won in Korea and Vietnam, as well as in Afghanistan and Iraq. American air power pulverized both North Korea and Vietnam (not to speak of neighboring Laos and Cambodia), yet the Korean War ended in a stalemate and the Vietnam War in defeat. (It tells you the world about such thinking that air power enthusiasts, reconsidering the Vietnam debacle, tend to argue the U.S. should have bombed even more -- lots more.) Despite total air supremacy, the recent Iraq War was a disaster even as the Afghan War staggers on into its 18th catastrophic year.
3. No matter how much it’s advertised as “precise,” “discriminate,” and “measured,” bombing (or using missiles like the Tomahawk) rarely is. The deaths of innocents are guaranteed. Air power and those deaths are joined at the hip, while such killings only generate anger and blowback, thereby prolonging the wars they are meant to end.
Consider, for instance, the “decapitation” strikes launched against Iraqi autocrat Saddam Hussein and his top officials in the opening moments of the Bush administration’s invasion of 2003. Despite the hype about that being the beginning of the most precise air campaign in all of history, 50 of those attacks, supposedly based on the best intelligence around, failed to take out Saddam or a single one of his targeted officials. They did, however, cause “dozens” of civilian deaths. Think of it as a monstrous repeat of the precision air attacks launched on Belgrade in 1999 against Slobodan Milosevic and his regime that hit the Chinese embassy instead, killing three journalists.
Here, then, is the question of the day: Why is it that, despite all the “precision” talk about it, air power so regularly proves at best a blunt instrument of destruction? As a start, intelligence is often faulty. Then bombs and missiles, even “smart” ones, do go astray. And even when U.S. forces actually kill high-value targets (HVTs), there are always more HVTs out there. A paradox emerges from almost 18 years of the war on terror: the imprecision of air power only leads to repetitious cycles of violence and, even when air strikes prove precise, there always turn out to be fresh targets, fresh terrorists, fresh insurgents to strike.
4. Using air power to send political messages about resolve or seriousness rarely works. If it did, the U.S. would have swept to victory in Vietnam. In Lyndon Johnson’s presidency, for instance, Operation Rolling Thunder (1965-1968), a graduated campaign of bombing, was meant to, but didn’t, convince the North Vietnamese to give up their goal of expelling the foreign invaders -- us -- from South Vietnam. Fast-forward to our era and consider recent signals sent to North Korea and Iran by the Trump administration via B-52 bomber deployments, among other military “messages.” There’s no evidence that either country modified its behavior significantly in the face of the menace of those baby-boomer-era airplanes.
5. Air power is enormously expensive. Spending on aircraft, helicopters, and their munitions accounted for roughly half the cost of the Vietnam War. Similarly, in the present moment, making operational and then maintaining Lockheed Martin’s boondoggle of a jet fighter, the F-35, is expected to cost at least $1.45 trillion over its lifetime. The new B-21 stealth bomber will cost more than $100 billion simply to buy. Naval air wings on aircraft carriers cost billions each year to maintain and operate. These days, when the sky’s the limit for the Pentagon budget, such costs may be (barely) tolerable. When the money finally begins to run out, however, the military will likely suffer a serious hangover from its wildly extravagant spending on air power.
6. Aerial surveillance (as with drones), while useful, can also be misleading. Command of the high ground is not synonymous with god-like “total situational awareness.” It can instead prove to be a kind of delusion, while war practiced in its spirit often becomes little more than an exercise in destruction. You simply can’t negotiate a truce or take prisoners or foster other options when you’re high above a potential battlefield and your main recourse is blowing up people and things.
7. Air power is inherently offensive. That means it’s more consistent with imperial power projection than with national defense. As such, it fuels imperial ventures, while fostering the kind of “global reach, global power” thinking that has in these years had Air Force generals in its grip.
8. Despite the fantasies of those sending out the planes, air power often lengthens wars rather than shortening them. Consider Vietnam again. In the early 1960s, the Air Force argued that it alone could resolve that conflict at the lowest cost (mainly in American bodies). With enough bombs, napalm, and defoliants, victory was a sure thing and U.S. ground troops a kind of afterthought. (Initially, they were sent in mainly to protect the airfields from which those planes took off.) But bombing solved nothing and then the Army and the Marines decided that, if the Air Force couldn’t win, they sure as hell could. The result was escalation and disaster that left in the dust the original vision of a war won quickly and on the cheap due to American air supremacy.
9. Air power, even of the shock-and-awe variety, loses its impact over time. The enemy, lacking it, nonetheless learns to adapt by developing countermeasures -- both active (like missiles) and passive (like camouflage and dispersion), even as those being bombed become more resilient and resolute.
10. Pounding peasants from two miles up is not exactly an ideal way to occupy the moral high ground in war.
The Road to Perdition
If I had to reduce these tenets to a single maxim, it would be this: all the happy talk about the techno-wonders of modern air power obscures its darker facets, especially its ability to lock America into what are effectively one-way wars with dead-end results.
For this reason, precision warfare is truly an oxymoron. War isn’t precise. It’s nasty, bloody, and murderous. War’s inherent nature -- its unpredictability, horrors, and tendency to outlast its original causes and goals -- isn’t changed when the bombs and missiles are guided by GPS. Washington’s enemies in its war on terror, moreover, have learned to adapt to air power in a grimly Darwinian fashion and have the advantage of fighting on their own turf.
Who doesn’t know the old riddle: If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Here’s a twenty-first-century air power variant on it: If foreign children die from American bombs but no U.S. media outlets report their deaths, will anyone grieve? Far too often, the answer here in the U.S. is no and so our wars go on into an endless future of global destruction.
In reality, this country might do better to simply ground its many fighter planes, bombers, and drones. Paradoxically, instead of gaining the high ground, they are keeping us on a low road to perdition.
More
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176571/
 

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This crap is trashing the planet.
"Ten Cautionary Tenets About Air Power"
1. Just because U.S. warplanes and drones can strike almost anywhere on the globe with relative impunity doesn’t mean that they should. Given the history of air power since World War II, ease of access should never be mistaken for efficacious results.
2. Bombing alone will never be the key to victory. If that were true, the U.S. would have easily won in Korea and Vietnam, as well as in Afghanistan and Iraq. American air power pulverized both North Korea and Vietnam (not to speak of neighboring Laos and Cambodia), yet the Korean War ended in a stalemate and the Vietnam War in defeat. (It tells you the world about such thinking that air power enthusiasts, reconsidering the Vietnam debacle, tend to argue the U.S. should have bombed even more -- lots more.) Despite total air supremacy, the recent Iraq War was a disaster even as the Afghan War staggers on into its 18th catastrophic year.
3. No matter how much it’s advertised as “precise,” “discriminate,” and “measured,” bombing (or using missiles like the Tomahawk) rarely is. The deaths of innocents are guaranteed. Air power and those deaths are joined at the hip, while such killings only generate anger and blowback, thereby prolonging the wars they are meant to end.
Consider, for instance, the “decapitation” strikes launched against Iraqi autocrat Saddam Hussein and his top officials in the opening moments of the Bush administration’s invasion of 2003. Despite the hype about that being the beginning of the most precise air campaign in all of history, 50 of those attacks, supposedly based on the best intelligence around, failed to take out Saddam or a single one of his targeted officials. They did, however, cause “dozens” of civilian deaths. Think of it as a monstrous repeat of the precision air attacks launched on Belgrade in 1999 against Slobodan Milosevic and his regime that hit the Chinese embassy instead, killing three journalists.
Here, then, is the question of the day: Why is it that, despite all the “precision” talk about it, air power so regularly proves at best a blunt instrument of destruction? As a start, intelligence is often faulty. Then bombs and missiles, even “smart” ones, do go astray. And even when U.S. forces actually kill high-value targets (HVTs), there are always more HVTs out there. A paradox emerges from almost 18 years of the war on terror: the imprecision of air power only leads to repetitious cycles of violence and, even when air strikes prove precise, there always turn out to be fresh targets, fresh terrorists, fresh insurgents to strike.
4. Using air power to send political messages about resolve or seriousness rarely works. If it did, the U.S. would have swept to victory in Vietnam. In Lyndon Johnson’s presidency, for instance, Operation Rolling Thunder (1965-1968), a graduated campaign of bombing, was meant to, but didn’t, convince the North Vietnamese to give up their goal of expelling the foreign invaders -- us -- from South Vietnam. Fast-forward to our era and consider recent signals sent to North Korea and Iran by the Trump administration via B-52 bomber deployments, among other military “messages.” There’s no evidence that either country modified its behavior significantly in the face of the menace of those baby-boomer-era airplanes.
5. Air power is enormously expensive. Spending on aircraft, helicopters, and their munitions accounted for roughly half the cost of the Vietnam War. Similarly, in the present moment, making operational and then maintaining Lockheed Martin’s boondoggle of a jet fighter, the F-35, is expected to cost at least $1.45 trillion over its lifetime. The new B-21 stealth bomber will cost more than $100 billion simply to buy. Naval air wings on aircraft carriers cost billions each year to maintain and operate. These days, when the sky’s the limit for the Pentagon budget, such costs may be (barely) tolerable. When the money finally begins to run out, however, the military will likely suffer a serious hangover from its wildly extravagant spending on air power.
6. Aerial surveillance (as with drones), while useful, can also be misleading. Command of the high ground is not synonymous with god-like “total situational awareness.” It can instead prove to be a kind of delusion, while war practiced in its spirit often becomes little more than an exercise in destruction. You simply can’t negotiate a truce or take prisoners or foster other options when you’re high above a potential battlefield and your main recourse is blowing up people and things.
7. Air power is inherently offensive. That means it’s more consistent with imperial power projection than with national defense. As such, it fuels imperial ventures, while fostering the kind of “global reach, global power” thinking that has in these years had Air Force generals in its grip.
8. Despite the fantasies of those sending out the planes, air power often lengthens wars rather than shortening them. Consider Vietnam again. In the early 1960s, the Air Force argued that it alone could resolve that conflict at the lowest cost (mainly in American bodies). With enough bombs, napalm, and defoliants, victory was a sure thing and U.S. ground troops a kind of afterthought. (Initially, they were sent in mainly to protect the airfields from which those planes took off.) But bombing solved nothing and then the Army and the Marines decided that, if the Air Force couldn’t win, they sure as hell could. The result was escalation and disaster that left in the dust the original vision of a war won quickly and on the cheap due to American air supremacy.
9. Air power, even of the shock-and-awe variety, loses its impact over time. The enemy, lacking it, nonetheless learns to adapt by developing countermeasures -- both active (like missiles) and passive (like camouflage and dispersion), even as those being bombed become more resilient and resolute.
10. Pounding peasants from two miles up is not exactly an ideal way to occupy the moral high ground in war.
The Road to Perdition
If I had to reduce these tenets to a single maxim, it would be this: all the happy talk about the techno-wonders of modern air power obscures its darker facets, especially its ability to lock America into what are effectively one-way wars with dead-end results.
For this reason, precision warfare is truly an oxymoron. War isn’t precise. It’s nasty, bloody, and murderous. War’s inherent nature -- its unpredictability, horrors, and tendency to outlast its original causes and goals -- isn’t changed when the bombs and missiles are guided by GPS. Washington’s enemies in its war on terror, moreover, have learned to adapt to air power in a grimly Darwinian fashion and have the advantage of fighting on their own turf.
Who doesn’t know the old riddle: If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Here’s a twenty-first-century air power variant on it: If foreign children die from American bombs but no U.S. media outlets report their deaths, will anyone grieve? Far too often, the answer here in the U.S. is no and so our wars go on into an endless future of global destruction.
In reality, this country might do better to simply ground its many fighter planes, bombers, and drones. Paradoxically, instead of gaining the high ground, they are keeping us on a low road to perdition.
More
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176571/
Liars figure and figures lie .
 

mrjoshua

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Ah! I thought of these already!

Diplomacy. - it's all talk. Once again madam, they are not going to change for you.

Reduced Trade. - As in $0.00?

Sanctions - woman, the US has been qualified for it a long time ago. In fact, they have been qualified for a lot of things for a long time now! Is the world ready to give up these though and are you:















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Oh my God! What a miserable bunch of hypocrites humans are!
 

mrjoshua

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Ambassadorial removal. - What good is that going to do? Is that going to hurt them? Holy mother of God, this is why I think talking to you is wasting my precious time!

Isolation - Sigh... and what does it matter what they think!?

Canadians... what is wrong with you? Is complaining and throwing about tantrums and empty threats the only thing you are going to do!? Come on people!

Did you forget that you did this:

 

Jinentonix

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Here, then, is the question of the day: Why is it that, despite all the “precision” talk about it, air power so regularly proves at best a blunt instrument of destruction?
Here then, is the answer of the day; Close Air Support. Yep, it's not 100% accurate but after over half a century of real world "practice", the US has gotten pretty damn good at it.

Air power is both a part of the combined arms philosophy of modern warfare and a force multiplier. Naval air power is an integral part of any serious navy. And when it comes to the US Navy, like it or not THEY are predominantly the ones out there keeping the international shipping lanes free and open.

Part of the reason for the F-35 is standardization. Currently the US military (all branches) are flying F-15s, F-16s, F-18s, F-22s, F-5Ns, Harriers, all their variants and the handful of F-35s so far delivered. That's a lot of different fighter a/c that have different parts and assemblies. The idea is/was to create a multi-role a/c that functions as well at each role as any specific role fighter. As I said, that was the idea. The execution isn't quite working out as hoped. But then again, when you build something with new, untried, untested designs, technology and other new stuff, there's going to be bugs that need worked out. Particularly when you want to use the same air frame for a v/stol version.
 

Jinentonix

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Ambassadorial removal. - What good is that going to do? Is that going to hurt them? Holy mother of God, this is why I think talking to you is wasting my precious time!
Isolation - Sigh... and what does it matter what they think!?
Canadians... what is wrong with you? Is complaining and throwing about tantrums and empty threats the only thing you are going to do!? Come on people!
Did you forget that you did this:
Holy shit you're a moron. The BRITISH did that. Canada wasn't even a f*cking country yet.

Look moron, you clearly know nothing about Canada and even less about Canada/US relations so why don't you go drink a nice steaming mug of f*ck off.
 

mrjoshua

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why don't YOU tell us your brilliant master plan for invading and destroying the US.

Once the US is surrounded, the world uses Canada and Mexico and the Caribbean Islands as launching pads. Take out their nuclear silos first! Don't let them use it and as much as possible, don't use nukes on them as well. We want to use their land afterwards.

Once all the nuclear silos are gone, launch bombing raids after bombing raids, reducing American cities to rubble. Destroy agriculture, destroy industry, destroy commerce, destroy transportation, destroy communication. Isolate each American city, town, village. Starve them not only of food but of the means to fight!

Then launch an all out infantry assault taking out as many American military and civilians as possible. The more you kill now, the less you have to kill later is my motto when it comes to these kinds of things. Give no quarter to any of them, not even the children. Execute everyone. The more you execute, the more they become demoralized. Those who surrender will be put in labor camps as punishment not only for fighting but for what their country has done. There they will work until they are lifeless. Do this until the very last of the 325,000,000 of them or so are dead.

Let them experience the same suffering they have brought on to the world.
 

mrjoshua

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I don't think our imperialistic, southern neighbour will last much longer.

Really? You are going to wait for China to make the move? And all the meanwhile, they are killing thousands of innocent people out there?

I mean good if they do but what if they don't? Then thousands if not millions of innocent people will be at the mercy of the evil USA!