Open military to non citizens?

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Tecumsehsbones said:
Yep, because that's what tough-guy heroes do.

Their role model is Marion Morrison, aka John Wayne, who couldn't be bothered to put on a uniform in the middle of World War II, unless it was to pretend to be a man for the cameras.
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He was stopped from signing up as all the movies were inspiration to many people who did sign up. Dying takes some of the glory away from actual war.

Facts make you look like an asshole btw. I thought you should know that.
 
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MHz said:
He was stopped from signing up as all the movies were inspiration to many people who did sign up. Dying takes some of the glory away from actual war.
Facts make you look like an asshole btw. I thought you should know that.
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Clark Gable and Jimmy Stewart both served. There were other options.
 
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Curious Cdn said:
There were others ... Ronald Reagan was another.
Eisenhower, on the other hand, was careful about not putting his young men in harm's way for no good reason.
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Nope, Reagan served. He was a REMF, he served in Hollywood, but he did serve. He joined the Army Reserve in 1937, and was called to active duty in 1942.

Johnson and Nixon, too. Naval Reserve, but they were signed up and would have been called if we had been attacked on our shores.

Now, out of 25 candidates, only three have served (Buttigieg, Gabbard, and Moulton, all Democrats). But only one dodged the draft.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Jimmy Stewart stayed in the Reserve long after, too. I met him in West Berlin in 1983. He was a retired brigadier in the Air Force.
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An old family friend of ours was a WW II tanker in England (who missed D-Day because they held him back to train others). Anyway, he said that they used to play poker with Clark Gable and that he was just a regular guy.
 
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MHz said:
That as close as you get to the war or did you serve as a 'code-talker' in Vietnam??
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The amazing thing about the code talkers is that both the Germans and Japanese were so devoid of imagination to figure it out (although Navajo speakers would have been hard to come by on Okaido).
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Still, ever notice how tough some guys get when their service-eligible days are behind them?
They grow a backbone, and the yellow on their bellies fades until you can just barely see it.
They're the true heroes.
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Canadians don't really pay attention to that. The importance of the draft in general culturw is more of a US thing.

In fact, I think most Canadian PMs outside the WWI and II generations haven't served and even then.
 
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White_Unifier said:
Canadians don't really pay attention to that. The importance of the draft in general culturw is more of a US thing.
In fact, I think most Canadian PMs outside the WWI and II generations haven't served and even then.
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I know, generally y'all tucked yourselves under the wing of Mama U.S. and ignored the fact that the only existential threat Canada and the U.S. faced in the 20th century was the USSR.

And it's the importance of service in general culture. We only draft occasionally.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
I know, generally y'all tucked yourselves under the wing of Mama U.S. and ignored the fact that the only existential threat Canada and the U.S. faced in the 20th century was the USSR.
And it's the importance of service in general culture. We only draft occasionally.
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We also draft occasionally but Canadians aren't very familiar with their own military history.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
I know, generally y'all tucked yourselves under the wing of Mama U.S. and ignored the fact that the only existential threat Canada and the U.S. faced in the 20th century was the USSR.
And it's the importance of service in general culture. We only draft occasionally.
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We also spend far less on the military, so fewer Canadians would even have an opportunity to serve even if they wanted to.
 
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White_Unifier said:
We also spend far less on the military, so fewer Canadians would even have an opportunity to serve even if they wanted to.
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Canada has a perennial shortage of military personnel. Although there were temporary hiring freezes during the force reduction of the 1990s
 
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