Nearly 2000 years of England-Wales tolls come to an end

[Blackleaf]

Maybe, they both have a better future trading with the Europeans than with a poor, depressed England, who will be suffering forever under punative tarrifs imposed on her as a warning to the EU members not to leave.

And there we have the classic contradiction all in one sentence.

On the one hand we get told that the UK will suffer because it's leaving the European Union, a union with which the UK does a lot of trade (43%, but falling, of UK trade), so the UK will suffer as a result, and yet on the other hand we get told that Scotland should leave the UK and that it would be better off outside it even though 63% of Scottish trade is with the UK.

As for saying that Scotland will have a better future as part of the EU than as part of the UK, I doubt you'd be saying that if Scotland left the UK, rejoined the EU as a new nation state, and has to accept the disastrous euro (which polls show most Scots don't want because it will be disastrous for the Scottish economy), Schengen, free movement of people and be a net contributor to the EU budget rather than - as it is now - a net receiver of subsidies from the UK Treasury. And Scotland in the EU still won't be an independent, sovereign state. Ir'd still be part of a political union but be run by Brussels rather than London. And as a small member state it'll have much less of a voice and much less influence in the EU as it does in the UK - it'd be dwarved and have less voting power than titans such as Sweden, Hungary, Belgium, Portugal and Austria.

 

[Curious Cdn]

And there we have the classic contradiction all in one sentence.
On the one hand we get told that the UK will suffer because it's leaving the European Union, a union with which the UK does a lot of trade (43%, but falling, of UK trade), so the UK will suffer as a result, and yet on the other hand we get told that Scotland should leave the UK and that it would be better off outside it even though 63% of Scottish trade is with the UK.
As for saying that Scotland will have a better future as part of the EU than as part of the UK, I doubt you'd be saying that if Scotland left the UK, rejoined the EU as a new nation state, and has to accept the disastrous euro (which polls show most Scots don't want because it will be disastrous for the Scottish economy), Schengen, free movement of people and be a net contributor to the EU budget rather than - as it is now - a net receiver of subsidies from the UK Treasury. And Scotland in the EU still won't be an independent, sovereign state. Ir'd still be part of a political union but be run by Brussels rather than London. And as a small member state it'll have much less of a voice and much less influence in the EU as it does in the UK - it'd be dwarved and have less voting power than titans such as Sweden, Hungary, Belgium, Portugal and Austria.

Trade with England might get worth didly-squat in the future. The Scots will want to be paid in a harder currency than the Peso Sterling.

 

[Blackleaf]

Trade with England might get worth didly-squat in the future. The Scots will want to be paid in a harder currency than the Peso Sterling.

It's great news for the economy that the pound is falling. It's been too high for several years. British trade and productivity will expand.


Much rather the pound than the euro. The British were, despite the warnings from the EUphiles, right to keep out of the euro, just as we'll be proven right to leave the EU, when Britain booms and becomes more democratic and the EU and its member states sink into oblivion, with Britain once again becoming Europe's greatest economic and military power.

 

[Curious Cdn]

It's great news for the economy that the pound is falling. It's been too high for several years. British trade and productivity will expand.
Much rather the pound than the euro. The British were, despite the warnings from the EUphiles, right to keep out of the euro, just as we'll be proven right to leave the EU, when Britain booms and becomes more democratic and the EU and its member states sink into oblivion, with Britain once again becoming Europe's greatest economic and military power.

Our relatively low dollar helps us but that is because we are a net trading nation that sells much more than we buy (most if the time). England hadn't been one of those since Victorian tines and you need a stronger currency to purchase all if the goods, food, etc. that you don't produce yourselves. Your ability to do that is becoming diminished.

 

[MHz]

It's great news for the economy that the pound is falling. It's been too high for several years. British trade and productivity will expand.

Considering the backbone of NATO is a thriving arms industry the opportunity for sales has increased with the US leaving or is the place, full. Does the training that ISIS get now more in line with messing the place up from the inside using sabotage tactics rather than bombs? (like all that training in Ireland supplied you with so it could be done right under 6the noses of the victims)

I assume the EU NATO members that are not sending arms to the KSA have already filled all the current contracts and nothing new was in the works anyway. If the KSA buys arms for Lebanon they that is fine and legal, you know the place where the leader can't for a Government but he knows how to get to the KSA and France for all sorts 'of things'.

 

[Blackleaf]

Our relatively low dollar helps us but that is because we are a net trading nation that sells much more than we buy (most if the time). England hadn't been one of those since Victorian tines and you need a stronger currency to purchase all if the goods, food, etc. that you don't produce yourselves. Your ability to do that is becoming diminished.

Actually, the UK has a trade surplus with the whole of the world except for one part of it - the EU. And most of the UK's trade is with the world outside the EU. UK trade with the EU is rapidly diminishing.

 

[MHz]

Our relatively low dollar helps us but that is because we are a net trading nation that sells much more than we buy (most if the time). England hadn't been one of those since Victorian tines and you need a stronger currency to purchase all if the goods, food, etc. that you don't produce yourselves. Your ability to do that is becoming diminished.

For somebody with lots of oil and extra food we are living in poverty so it is being given away and they are the ones reaping the rewards so now you know the rest of the story of why a rich country has a dollar that is as low as it can go.

 

[Blackleaf]

Britain is the ninth-biggest exporting country in the world, ahead of Canada and a bigger exporter per capita than the USA.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Actually, the UK has a trade surplus with the whole of the world except for one part of it - the EU. And most of the UK's trade is with the world outside the EU. UK trade with the EU is rapidly diminishing.

No, you have a net trade deficit.

The widening of the trade in goods deficit was due to increases in imports and decreases in exports, from and to non-EU countries, in the three months to January 2018

This is from your own trade office.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/january2018

 

[Blackleaf]

No, you have a net trade deficit.
The widening of the trade in goods deficit was due to increases in imports and decreases in exports, from and to non-EU countries, in the three months to January 2018
This is from your own trade office.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/january2018

I think you'll find Britain has a trade surplus with the whole world - except with the EU.

In fact, the trade surplus that Britain has with the non-EU world has grown fivefold since 2012 from £8bn to £39bn.

 

[Curious Cdn]

I think you'll find Britain has a trade surplus with the whole world - except with the EU.
In fact, the trade surplus that Britain has with the non-EU world has grown fivefold since 2012 from £8bn to £39bn.

I've found that Britain has a trade deficit and it's increasing. No wonder you are Brexiter. You are operating with incorrect information.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/april2018

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-kingdom/1946-04-01/britains-declining-role-world-trade

 

[Blackleaf]

I've found that Britain has a trade deficit and it's increasing. No wonder you are Brexiter. You are operating with incorrect information.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/april2018
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-kingdom/1946-04-01/britains-declining-role-world-trade

No. You're operating with incorrect information.

 

[Curious Cdn]

I think you'll find Britain has a trade surplus with the whole world - except with the EU.
In fact, the trade surplus that Britain has with the non-EU world has grown fivefold since 2012 from £8bn to £39bn.

... whiskey and tea cup exports ...

 

[White_Unifier]

Curious Canadian, why do you have an anchor ensign on your avatar? What do you think Canada is anchored to?

 

[Blackleaf]

Curious Canadian, why do you have an anchor ensign on your avatar? What do you think Canada is anchored to?

It's the RCN flag.

 

[White_Unifier]

It's the RCN flag.

But why does the RCN want to weigh Canada down?

 

[Blackleaf]

But why does the RCN want to weigh Canada down?

Scared that you won't be there when they try to return to port.

 

[MHz]

Curious Canadian, why do you have an anchor ensign on your avatar? What do you think Canada is anchored to?

Perhaps the closer meaning is he is an anchor that keeps things from progressing.

 

[White_Unifier]

Perhaps the closer meaning is he is an anchor that keeps things from progressing.

He's an anchor baby that keeps things from progressing?

 

[Blackleaf]

Maybe he's a former naval man, like I am.