NAFTA; Did Mexico throw Canada under the bus ?

spilledthebeer

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Time is on our side. If Trump drops the bomb and slaps tarifs on "Canadian" autos, the North American auto production system goes haywire. GM, Chrysler, Ford stocks take a dive and Hyundai, Toyota and Honda get even bigger. None of this will help Trump with his mid-terms one iota (it may show the American people that he's not such a shithot negotiator after all ... maybe). Tough it out and it might just help a bit to bring the tyrant down.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Time is on our side say the LIE-berals!

Why dont you LIE-berals pile that fresh, ripe, steaming, straight from the back of the Bull, organic fertilizer and let it ferment for a while!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Economic upheaval DOSE NOT SUIT our civil service union Hogs!!!!

Their stocks are not performing so well now with all the threats of tariffs!!!!!

And people connected with the auto business are wondering if they will have jobs in 4- 6 months!

Merry Christmas to all- and last person fired shuts of the lights and locks up till we get a new govt that actually understands business!

And so what about the debts piling up as companies hedge their bets and try to figure out how to manage in this uncertain business climate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And too damned bad for all the workers who will NOT be getting raises in pay this year thanks to such economic uncertainty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Though our taxes WILL BE GOING UP AS USUAL- TO PAY THE federal LIE-beral carbon tax!!!!!!!!!!!!

And LIE-berals will be hitting us with a new Canada Pension Plan rate in 2019- unless they chicken out and cancel it- after all an election is coming and LIE-berals are now so unpopular their survival is now in jeopardy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our property taxes will be going UP -to to cover the pay raises Wynne-bag LIE-berals gave to civil service union Hogs- just before the June election massacre!

And our water and sewer rates will also be going up to cover those Hog deals for their pals in the water dept!!!!

And our income taxes will be going up as well- Our idiot Boy needs nearly 5 billion dollars just to pay for his Kinder Morgan pipeline to nowhere!!!!!!!

Then there is the interest on the $70 plus billion in new debt Our idiopt Boy has run up so far- with the 2018 debt nowhere near totalled up yet!

College and university tuition will be going up - more gravy is needed to cover deals made between Wynne-bag LIE-berals and education Hogs!

No.......time really is ONLY on the side of LIE-berals who are to busy trying to save their own skins and their grand places on the gravy train to worry about the messes they have made!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Trudeau ( and his globalist nazi commie followers) threw Canada under the bus.

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RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The way LIE-berals are going it will soon be a toss up whether they begin party meeting with shouting Sieg Heil or with signing the Soviet The Internationale!

LIE-beral policy borrows in ugly way from both Nazi and Soviet ideology!!!!!!!!!!
 

Curious Cdn

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Feb 22, 2015
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time is on our side say the LIE-berals!
Why dont you LIE-berals pile that fresh, ripe, steaming, straight from the back of the Bull, organic fertilizer and let it ferment for a while!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Economic upheaval DOSE NOT SUIT our civil service union Hogs!!!!
Their stocks are not performing so well now with all the threats of tariffs!!!!!
And people connected with the auto business are wondering if they will have jobs in 4- 6 months!
Merry Christmas to all- and last person fired shuts of the lights and locks up till we get a new govt that actually understands business!
And so what about the debts piling up as companies hedge their bets and try to figure out how to manage in this uncertain business climate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And too damned bad for all the workers who will NOT be getting raises in pay this year thanks to such economic uncertainty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Though our taxes WILL BE GOING UP AS USUAL- TO PAY THE federal LIE-beral carbon tax!!!!!!!!!!!!
And LIE-berals will be hitting us with a new Canada Pension Plan rate in 2019- unless they chicken out and cancel it- after all an election is coming and LIE-berals are now so unpopular their survival is now in jeopardy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our property taxes will be going UP -to to cover the pay raises Wynne-bag LIE-berals gave to civil service union Hogs- just before the June election massacre!
And our water and sewer rates will also be going up to cover those Hog deals for their pals in the water dept!!!!
And our income taxes will be going up as well- Our idiot Boy needs nearly 5 billion dollars just to pay for his Kinder Morgan pipeline to nowhere!!!!!!!
Then there is the interest on the $70 plus billion in new debt Our idiopt Boy has run up so far- with the 2018 debt nowhere near totalled up yet!
College and university tuition will be going up - more gravy is needed to cover deals made between Wynne-bag LIE-berals and education Hogs!
No.......time really is ONLY on the side of LIE-berals who are to busy trying to save their own skins and their grand places on the gravy train to worry about the messes they have made!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go ahead, spilledtheheer. Sign a shyte deal because Trump DEMANDS that you sign it, or else! Only LIE-berals want good deals for Canada. Alt Reich tuff gize want to surrender NOW and give GOLORIOUS LEADER everything that he wants. MAGA!
 

White_Unifier

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Feb 21, 2017
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Go ahead, spilledtheheer. Sign a shyte deal because Trump DEMANDS that you sign it, or else! Only LIE-berals want good deals for Canada. Alt Reich tuff gize want to surrender NOW and give GOLORIOUS LEADER everything that he wants. MAGA!

I'd rather Canada sign a deal with the United states than that it walk away with no deal. That said, I'd like the agreement to be an open agreement that would inscribe the freedom of each party to unilaterally reduce tariffs against any country in the world as it pleases.

I could see one problem with the above though. The US could worry that if Canada unilaterally reduced tariffs on different products from different countries, Canadian manufacturers could benefit from lower tariffs on the raw materials and machinery that they use. One solution to that would be to allow the US in such circumstances to request that Canada raise the tax on the net profits of resource-extraction, animal-husbandry, and addictive-products (e.g. alcohol, tobacco, etc.) businesses to a maximum of 1/3 of net profit so as to reduce Canadian exports of at least those products to the US so as to re-balance the balance of trade in such circumstances.

Should any unilateral reduction in tariffs against other countries on the part of Canada give Canadian businesses a significant advantage against their US counterparts, we could include a clause that would allow the US to raise reasonable countervailing tariffs in response, but not retaliatory ones.

This would allow Canada to freely trade with the rest of the world as much as it wants while still allowing the US to counter any Canadian tariff-reduction against other countries that could unfairly advantage Canada against the US.
 

White_Unifier

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Feb 21, 2017
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Canada should also try to exempt itself from Canadian-content rules too. What if Canada can get better parts at a better price from elsewhere?
 

White_Unifier

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that said, Canada should be willing to give concessions on supply-management and Canadian-content rules.
 

Curious Cdn

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Feb 22, 2015
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Parasites is more accurate.
Allies are not parasites and the United States derives it's great power from it's multilateral relations around the planet. As the US slowly sinks into the sunset as a great power, they may just figure that out too late. Trump is utterly clueless about the history of his onpwn country. He makes it up as he goes along and lies, lies, lies.
 

Curious Cdn

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Canada consists of much more than just dairy farmers and the journalism industry.
Trump's I vented complaint is that dairy farmers on Wisconsin are topping themselves because nasty Canadians protect their dairy farmers. Better in Trump's mind if Canadian dairy farmers are committing suicide instead. Maybe that's the difference. We're better at taking care of each other than the Americans are. Why should we lower our standards?
 

AncientMuse

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We're better at taking care of each other than the Americans are. Why should we lower our standards?

Because Trump says so, that's why.

Whatever Trump (blessed be thy name) says is absolute and unquestionable gospel, engraved in stone... forever and ever, amen.

How dare you question the word of Trump.

Heretic !