Britain is banning plastic straws — and asking Canada to join
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Are those the ones they use for chunky soup? Yell down one you will probably hear an echo.
single use is a myth. I recycle my straws, they become pill bottles for ill people like hoid, eventually, I buy it back as a patio chair.
Maybe. That's the theory, anyway.
http://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/climate/recycling-landfills-plastic-papers.html
Besides, recycling costs us money. About the only recycled item that generates a profit are aluminum pop cans. Around here, they subsidize most of the rest of the recycling program. Grinding up plastic straws to make into pellets for moulding requires all sorts of sorting laboir and it is not efficient to do so. Why do much resistance to returning to the paper straws that we used for 45ths of the Twentieth Century? Why such angst?
What will they build with the plastic that will not be used in straws or is that another industry heated for scrap-heap. Part of the 'un-spoiling program' that the peasants must endure while the elite move onto glass straws with graduation marks.
The oil industry doesn't run on doing 'useful things'. It needs to be watched closely or it will do the same shit Texaco did in the Amazon.
I think this is a desperate attempt by the pulp and paper industry to regain some markets. They know that commercial hemp is coming back and they are worried.
furthermore,I think we should be going in the opposite direction. We should be replacing single use toothpicks with multi use plastic picks
Since we already KNOW that Cdn oil is produced under more stringent environmental laws than oil from South America- why then is Our idiot Boy Justin so insistent that we buy oil for eastern North America from Venezuela?
If oil tankers operating on the west coast of Canada are such a menace- why are LIE-berals ignoring oil tankers on east coast?
LIE-berals are deliberately screwing up NAFTA negotiations simply because Yankees do not believe native rights should be included in a trade treaty- so why are Cdn LIE-berals supporting South American socialists who care nothing for the rights of natives in their jurisdictions??
Is there no subject that LIE-berals cannot obfuscate with irrelevant blather?????
LIE-berals are currently STOPPING construction of Kinder Morgan pipeline since there has been NO gender study done on the effects of the pipeline- yet LIE-berals admit the have NO PLAN to make Venezuela produce such a gender plan!!
Do LIE-berals stay up late dreaming up new nd unique ways of displaying their hypocrisy? It would seem so!!!!
And when LIE-berals are finally thrown off the political stage I guess we can look forward to Our idiot Boy whining about how harshly Cdns have condemned him as an ENTIRELY NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Texaco story couldn't happen in this day and age. (Baffin Correctional Center shows a real lack of concern for the health and welfare of the locals so don't get all teary eyed). We still have the Yukon and the tailings from the gold dredges to clean-up. Now that it can be done at a profit by recovering the gold they missed there are moves underway to declare them a national heritage so even looking at them needs a permit.
You may be right, but what would stop large companies like Weyerhaeuser or Kimberly-Clarkfrom switching to hemp as a basic resource?
We put ours in the dishwasher. They can be reused indefinitely.
My frugal and canny Scottish family has been recycling the same condom for generations!
POOR FOOLISH LIE-BERALS NATTERING ON ABOUT STRAWS while hoping we will forget abput stuff like this:
Here is an article illustrating how LIE-beral policy is drowning in its own selfish hypocrisy. With some comments of my own in brackets):
“Yes, anti-pipeline Vancouver really is North America’s largest exporter of coal
5/55 National Post. Tristin Hopper.
Coal is moved at Neptune terminals, North Vancouver, April 28 2017.© Gerry Kahrmann / Postmedia File.
Lately, it’s one of the few things that oil boosters and environmental activists can agree upon: Calling Vancouver a hypocrite for opposing carbon emissions while also being the continent’s largest coal port.
And both camps are correct. According to the data, Canada’s mecca of anti-pipeline sentiment does indeed rank as the largest single exporter of coal in North America.
Vancouver’s various coal facilities exported 36.8 million tonnes of coal in 2017, according to the Vancouver Fraser Port Authority.
(Oh dear- there is the dirty coal stained heart of LIE-beral hypocrisy! It was LIE-berals who told us no price was too high to pay to get rid of coal fired electric generators! And it was LIE-berals who sold us on using “clean burning natural gas” appliances for our homes and who then decided they needed more gravy and considered forcing us to give up natural gas in favour of electricity produced in the LIE-beral mouldy green electricity slush fund- until public backlash at that greed halted them- FOR NOW! And it was LIE-berals who bought into a Yankee power company that owns a number of coal plants- with NO plan to shut them down any time soon- with the added bonus the company is in the middle of a massive pollution lawsuit that our idiot LIE-berals will have to help pay to clean up- using OUR MONEY!)
(The most foolish aspect of LIE-beral policy is that China wants to phase out coal generation and would like to switch to cleaner natural gas- if only they could get a reliable supply– and LIE-berals are REFUSING to use pipe lines to export Cdn gas to China!)
This places the B.C. city well above Norfolk, Virginia, the busiest coal port in the United States. Despite a massive spike in U.S. coal exports for 2017, only 31.5 million tonnes of coal moved out of Norfolk last year.
(Versus 36.8 million tons for B.C. Oh well- just the usual LIE-beral posturing!)
Vancouver’s coal exports also dwarf the total coal production for the entire country of Mexico. According to data gathered by the U.S. Congressional Research Service, Mexican mines have produced no more than 16 million tonnes of coal per year since 2006.
Much of Vancouver’s coal is handled by a single facility that ranks as the largest of its kind on the continent.
Westshore Terminals loaded 29 million tonnes of coal in 2017, nearly triple the combined coal exports of the entire U.S. West Coast.
(And we KNOW LIE-berals will NOT want to kill those union port jobs!)
It’s also right next to the Tsawwassen ferry terminal, making it a familiar sight to any passenger aboard a ferry arriving from Vancouver Island. Currently, Westshore Terminals is in the midst of a $275 million upgrade to “replace aging equipment and modernize our office and shop complex,” according to the company.
(So they ARE planning to be in coal biz for the long term!)
B.C. mines provide much of the coal flowing through Metro Vancouver. Even as coal production enters a prolonged decline around much of the world, it has been positively thriving west of the Rocky Mountains.
“Coal production is a mainstay of the province’s economy, generating billions of dollars in annual revenue and supporting thousands of well-paid jobs,” reads the website for B.C.’s Ministry of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources.
(Oh what a remarkable HEADACHE for NDP airheads! Good jobs in Alberta producing clean burning natural gas versus good jobs in B.C. producing FILTHY COAL! Would it not be fun to confront Jagmeet Singh and see how HE feels about this mess? What sort of double dealing/ talk out both sides of his mouth sort of crap would he spew? With BOTH federal AND provincial votes hanging in the balance? HAHAHAHAJHAHA!!!!)
Coal is the province’s number one export commodity, with $3.32 billion of coal mined in 2016. Much of this is metallurgical coal, which is exported to Asia for the making of steel.
(So the sale of natural gas to China will NOT affect B.C. coal sales since its mostly used for steel production anyway?)
In recent years, however, Vancouver’s coal ports have also accommodated a massive increase in exports of thermal coal, which is used for the production of electricity.
(Uh oh! THERE IS THE DIRTY hypocrisy! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!)
In 2008, only 4.4 million tonnes of Vancouver’s coal exports could be called non-metallurgical. By 2017, this had more than doubled to 11.3 million tonnes.
(Oh- eleven million tons burned for electricity- and even the Chinese want alternatives- that LIE-berals are BLOCKING! Even more silly is LIE-beral refusal to export Alberta oil to eastern Canada since Alberta oil is produced under more rigorous environmental rules than the Venezuelan oil we currently use- but then Our idiot Boy Justin IS a silver spoon socialist and he desires to support the Venezuelan socialist fellow travellers at any price!)
Controversially, almost all of this thermal coal is coming from the United States. As lawmakers in Washington and Oregon have begun shutting down their own coal ports due to environmental concerns, thermal coal producers in Wyoming and Montana have simply diverted their product through Canada.
In August, then-premier Christy Clark called for a ban on Vancouver exports of U.S. thermal coal in retaliation for U.S. tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber.
“They are no longer good trading partners with Canada. So that means we’re free to ban filthy thermal coal from B.C. ports, and I hope the federal government will support us in doing that,” she said at the time.
(Oh my- such a TANGLED WEB! LIE-berals are under attack from Trump administration due to their careless handling of national security issues that affect both countries! Yankees do not want to import Muslim radicals and assorted illegals along with their Cdn dairy and softwood lumber- so Trump has been hitting trade in hope of pressuring Our idiot Boy who seems utterly oblivious to the trouble!)
In the main, however, Metro Vancouver has benefited handsomely from the presence of the coal industry, according to numbers compiled by the B.C.-based Coal Alliance. Between 2012 to 2017, coal-related companies spent $2.29 billion in Metro Vancouver, including $470 million in the City of Vancouver proper.
One of the most visible contributions of the coal sector has been as a key sponsor of the Vancouver Aquarium. In 2012 Teck Resources donated $12.5 million to the attraction, the aquarium’s largest-ever single donation.
It’s difficult to precisely calculate the life cycle carbon footprint of Vancouver’s coal exports, given that the city’s ports handle a variety of coal types, each with their own specific emissions profile.
But according to emissions formulas used by the Sierra Club, Vancouver’s 2017 coal exports will produce 99.8 million tonnes of CO2 over their lifetime.
For context, this is significantly higher than B.C.’s entire carbon footprint. In 2014, B.C. estimated that it produced 64.5 million tonnes of CO2 equivalent.
(But nobody wants to ask what the carbon foot print would be if we sold natural gas to China so they could cut back on coal use? Such an AWKWARD question!)
(And does anybody want to ask if there would be added environmental benefit if we began shipping Alberta oil to eastern Canada under more stringent regulations than Venezuela ignores? Oh.....yet ANOTHER hard question! Poor LIE-berals- people want them to make sensible choices- NOT selfish ones!)
It also means that B.C.’s existing coal exports are roughly as bad for the climate as anything scheduled to come out of the Trans Mountain expansion.