Britain is banning plastic straws — and asking Canada to join

Hoid

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and businesses pay no legal fees because they pass those on to the consumer, so it is actually the consumer who pays the legal fees.
 

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You run your car on bullshit? How's that working out for you?
Don't laugh, apparently back in the day of steel wheel tractors 'heating wood chips' would produce a gas (methane?) that would allow an internal combustion engine to 'run'.


Tractor running on wood gas
 

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IN fact my 69 Buick GS was designed to run on leaded - the lead lubricated the valves. On no lead gas you do not get the performance.

The big fins on the back were there to divert the lead compounds from entering the passenger compartment.
 

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Let's leave lead out of the equation, the elite are still drinking their booze from containers made from glass with lead in them. (so all the carving can be done without the bottle shattering) Of course it leads to insanity but they have no clue that they are insane, as least the ones going that way from contaminated water are aware that something is not right.
 

Curious Cdn

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Let's leave lead out of the equation, the elite are still drinking their booze from containers made from glass with lead in them. (so all the carving can be done without the bottle shattering) Of course it leads to insanity but they have no clue that they are insane, as least the ones going that way from contaminated water are aware that something is not right.

I'm drinking my booze straight out of the copper condenser coil.
 

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By the sound of it you catch the first ounces that should be tossed away as it is a poisonous substance that will induce a lot more bad side effects than a splitting hangover.


I notice the Moonshiners finally started using potatoes for the mash. Wonder where that idea came from.


This is a garden from a single guy in some unnamed country.
 

Curious Cdn

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By the sound of it you catch the first ounces that should be tossed away as it is a poisonous substance that will induce a lot more bad side effects than a splitting hangover.

No, I use that as a fuel additive in my Studebaker because I can't get leaded gas, anymore. .... those goddam Commies!
 

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Please tell me you used silver for soldier rather than lead based. (just so I take that into account when reading your posts)
 

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no offense, I don't give a shit about latin American countries. And,even if I did, they are totally within their rights to screw up their streets any way they see fit.

Canada has a recycling program for plastics. It seems a whole lot more sensible to recycle them - today! - no excuses, just recycle them. Action is way more sensible than sitting around whining about what other people in other countries are doing.


You really are misinformed aren't you? Where do you think all that plastic ends up? Look up Great Pacific Garbage Patch and you'll find out. From there it goes into the ocean food chain and eventually, if you eat fish, into your stomach. There is no longer "us" and "them" in regard to pollution. When any nation pollutes we all end up sharing it. A far better and less expensive solution is to not pollute in the first place rather than endlessly recycling throw-away products.



And then there is this little problem.
Plastic particles found in bottled water


https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43388870

How many people use paper straws??


For decades they were the only type of straw available.

How is the Western world not using plastic straws going to stop these countries from not using them?


Simple - I doubt that any developing nation manufactures much in the way of plastic products. If there are no plastic straws they will switch to something else.

We did just fine without the internal combustion engine, too.




Did we? Manure pollution was a major problem in large cities, one the automobile solved. And then, of course, there is the fact that without modern transport, modern civilization could not exist.





Sounds exactly like the BS spewed by the tobacco industry in the 1960s and similar BS spewed by the oil industry regarding gasoline pollution.

dont be BULLSHITTING us. When you were a kid, straws were made from straw.


That is one of the original uses of straw.
 

Curious Cdn

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That is one of the original uses of straw.

That and house construction. As codes improved, we moved from building houses with straw to building them with sticks and ultimately, using bricks.
 

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You really are misinformed aren't you? Where do you think all that plastic ends up? Look up Great Pacific Garbage Patch and you'll find out. From there it goes into the ocean food chain and eventually, if you eat fish, into your stomach. There is no longer "us" and "them" in regard to pollution. When any nation pollutes we all end up sharing it. A far better and less expensive solution is to not pollute in the first place rather than endlessly recycling throw-away products.



And then there is this little problem.
Plastic particles found in bottled water


https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43388870




For decades they were the only type of straw available.




Simple - I doubt that any developing nation manufactures much in the way of plastic products. If there are no plastic straws they will switch to something else.


So the plastic ban is mandatory now? I thought it was voluntary, anyway do you think these plastic manufacturers will shut down just because? Besides are the replacements on the market already? Are they cheaper? Who is invested in the new products to put all this pressure on plastics to be banned?





Did we? Manure pollution was a major problem in large cities, one the automobile solved. And then, of course, there is the fact that without modern transport, modern civilization could not exist.






Sounds exactly like the BS spewed by the tobacco industry in the 1960s and similar BS spewed by the oil industry regarding gasoline pollution.




That is one of the original uses of straw.
 

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The paper shopping bag was deemed ecomurder through funding by the Koch bros who just happened to have a paraffin plastic bag ready to fill the gap.
 

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Is the UK running out of that type of plastic and the PR spin is 'this crap'? Considering their next fighter is supposed to be a drone the straws might be the material used to create the 'swarm'.