Britain is banning plastic straws — and asking Canada to join

Hoid

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What are the chances that climate change deniers are going to deny that plastics present a problem or concern?
 

Curious Cdn

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That's the spirit, Walter. Not an entrepreneur bone in your ideslogue body, eh?

Canadians should apply their extensive, world-leading knowledge of Pulp and Paper technology and become the go-to, World-wide exporter of paper straws.

When foreigners think "environmentally friendly paper straws" they should also think "from Canada".

I'm not joking. A Yank wouldn't think twice about exploiting a situation like this.
 

JamesBondo

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When I was a kid and teenager, it was 100% of us. You won't find much archaeological evidence of it though, as it would have mostly broken down by now.

dont be BULLSHITTING us. When you were a kid, straws were made from straw.

What are the chances that climate change deniers are going to deny that plastics present a problem or concern?
it is only a problem because millenial pukes like you are too ****in lazy to recycle.
 

Hoid

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Single use plastics should be phased out to the greatest extent possible.

Just like lead in gas.

Same people who are arguing about plastics were arguing about lead in gas being OK.
 

JamesBondo

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Single use plastics should be phased out to the greatest extent possible.

Just like lead in gas.

Same people who are arguing about plastics were arguing about lead in gas being OK.
were you around to remember the led in gas issue or did you wikipedia it?
 

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Perhaps the only reason is to show how sub-servant we are while they are not beholden to do anything we ask of them.
 

Hoid

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Lead in gas, seat belts, asbestos, cigarette smoking,vaccines, - it doesn't matter what you try to tell people a small number of them are going to resist it because....well, we don't know why but they just do.
 

Hoid

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IN fact my 69 Buick GS was designed to run on leaded - the lead lubricated the valves. On no lead gas you do not get the performance.
 

White_Unifier

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Why not just introduce a tax on companies that extract the raw materials from which plastics are made? A tax of 1/3 of net profits should do it.

Hi Walter.
 

White_Unifier

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Businesses do not pay taxes.

If we want a business to pay taxes, then it will pay taxes if it abides by the law. Sure it will pass the cost on to consumers, but that's the point. It will increase the cost of the product and so reduce consumption. See how the market works?

Alternatively, we could tax it at the retail end but that's less efficient as sellers calculate a penny her and a penny there. If we tax it on the resource-extraction company, then it just has to calculate the tax on its total net profits and so imposes minimal man hours on calculating the tax as a ratio of the amount of tax collected.
 

Walter

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If we want a business to pay taxes, then it will pay taxes if it abides by the law. Sure it will pass the cost on to consumers, but that's the point. It will increase the cost of the product.

See, businesses do not pay taxes, they pass the cost to the consumer, so it is actually the consumer who pays the tax.
 

White_Unifier

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See, businesses do not pay taxes, they pass the cost to the consumer, so it is actually the consumer who pays the tax.

The business collects the tax from the consumer to pay it to the government. So yes, it pays the tax but just then passes it on to the consumer.

I think it's much more efficient to tax the business than the consumer though that way we don't waste a retailer's time collecting taxes a penny at a time. Charge it on the net profits of a resource-extraction business, and it's just a matter of dividing a fraction from the total net profit which the business needs to calculate anyway.

Hi Walter.
 
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