Canada hits back at U.S. with dollar-for-dollar tariffs on steel, aluminum, maple syr

Tecumsehsbones

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Canada hits back at U.S. with dollar-for-dollar tariffs on steel, aluminum, maple syrup | CBC News

Canada's response to Trump hurting the US consumer is to hurt the Canadian consumer. I don't understand!

Trump shot the US in the foot and now Trudeau has decided to shoot Canada in the foot in retaliation. Help us!

Look, I've just given you several ideas for ending this li'l tiff, and you morons are gonna try to go dollar-to-dollar with a country with ten times your GDP. Good luck with that. Especially since your dollars are printed by Parker Brothers.
 

White_Unifier

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Look, I've just given you several ideas for ending this li'l tiff, and you morons are gonna try to go dollar-to-dollar with a country with ten times your GDP. Good luck with that.

At most, Canada could hurt the Northern states; but then the Us can spread that pain across its entire population, making it almost unnoticeable. Canada can't spread the pain among as large a population.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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At most, Canada could hurt the Northern states; but then the Us can spread that pain across its entire population, making it almost unnoticeable. Canada can't spread the pain among as large a population.

I guess you'll just have to suspend your anti-sex crusade until you're done being f*cked by. . .

DONALD

J.

TRUMP!

After which will toss you a hundred thou or so for an NDA.
 

Bar Sinister

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Look, I've just given you several ideas for ending this li'l tiff, and you morons are gonna try to go dollar-to-dollar with a country with ten times your GDP. Good luck with that. Especially since your dollars are printed by Parker Brothers.




Actually several of Canada's tariffs target GOP regions of the US. The EU is also resorting to similar targeted tariffs. It's a simple strategy - hit Trump supporters and avoid an all-out trade war.
 

White_Unifier

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Actually several of Canada's tariffs target GOP regions of the US. The EU is also resorting to similar targeted tariffs. It's a simple strategy - hit Trump supporters and avoid an all-out trade war.

It hits our own consumers too though.

That's why I think our governments should not retaliate legally and instead just let the grassroots organize their own unofficial boycotts. It's hard for a country to tell another to force its population to buy its products.
 

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Look, I've just given you several ideas for ending this li'l tiff, and you morons are gonna try to go dollar-to-dollar with a country with ten times your GDP. Good luck with that. Especially since your dollars are printed by Parker Brothers.

We're not alone. The EU will be joining in on the coutervailing fun and probably Mexico, too. Trump is also capable of pissing off China, Japan, Taiwan and you may find that there are tariffs beong slapped on American goods and services somultaneously all over the planet. One thing is for sure, America's attack on her trading partners tells us and them that the US is not a reliable partner and and that may curtail the possibility of some future trade negotiations.
 

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We're not alone. The EU will be joining in on the coutervailing fun and probably Mexico, too. Trump is also capable of pissing off China, Japan, Taiwan and you may find that there are tariffs beong slapped on American goods and services somultaneously all over the planet. One thing is for sure, America's attack on her trading partners tells us and them that the US is not a reliable partner and and that may curtail the possibility of some future trade negotiations.
Let’s see . How would you look at a deal when your country pays a 100% tariff to export a product yet charges 2% to import a like product from the other country . Would you think such a deal is not in your favour ?
 

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We're not alone. The EU will be joining in on the coutervailing fun and probably Mexico, too. Trump is also capable of pissing off China, Japan, Taiwan and you may find that there are tariffs beong slapped on American goods and services somultaneously all over the planet. One thing is for sure, America's attack on her trading partners tells us and them that the US is not a reliable partner and and that may curtail the possibility of some future trade negotiations.

Even if some of them don't raise tariffs against the US, they certainly will start to drop tariffs against other states.

Chocolate vs. steel: A look at Canada's strategic tariff retaliation strategy | CBC News

Expect your grocery bill to increase.
 

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Trudeau had no choice but to respond with an equal dollar for dollar retaliatory tariff war.

Europe and Mexico are doing the same thing, it's a group response to Trump's bulldog tactics.

Trump is attempting to play the extortion game with his country's allied trade partners... so we all need to stick together and slap him back just as hard.

We're going to feel some of the pain in this trade war, but we're playing a long game here people. If we don't do this now, the US (under Trump's dictatorship) will cause us even greater pain later on down the road when our economy, trade revenues, and jobs suffer in a domino effect.

All the other trade partners with the US that are getting hammered with these tariffs are doing the same thing for the exact same reason why we are. It's a necessary evil to put the bulldog back on his leash.

Meanwhile...

It's high time for Canada to find more dependable trade partners and wash our hands of trying to deal with the US. They can no longer be trusted as an economic partner. Time to take the NAFTA agreement and shred it.

It's a big world out there, and there's plenty of countries who would be more than happy to cut bilateral trade deals with us.

Why ? Because we can be trusted to keep our word with our allies, and most importantly... we can be trusted to not f*** them over later on down the road when agreements come up for renewal.

F*** Donald Trump and his little band of merry cronies.
 

White_Unifier

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Canada's not going about it the right way though. Counter-intuitively, Canada should be strategically imposing export tariffs on certain Canadian exports to the US. Among the one's I'd include would be alcohol, tobacco, steel, meat, dairy, and eggs (though granted we don't trade much in some of these as it is, they'd still have a symbolic effect).

We could consider an export tariff on watts and fuel too.
 

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Canada's not going about it the right way though. Counter-intuitively, Canada should be strategically imposing export tariffs on certain Canadian exports to the US. Among the one's I'd include would be alcohol, tobacco, steel, meat, dairy, and eggs (though granted we don't trade much in some of these as it is, they'd still have a symbolic effect).

We could consider an export tariff on watts and fuel too.

It is a strategic maneuver.

We hammered tarriffs on certain types of exports that are purchased mostly in GOP parts of the country... concentrating a huge portion of it in the upper midwest and northeast areas (industrial manufacturing sectors). In a nutshell: Trump country.

Hit Republicans where it hurts them the most: in their constituents' wallets.
 

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It is a strategic maneuver.

We hammered tarriffs on certain types of exports that are purchased mostly in GOP parts of the country... concentrating a huge portion of it in the upper midwest and northeast areas (industrial manufacturing sectors). In a nutshell: Trump country.

Hit Republicans where it hurts them the most: in their constituents' wallets.

No, you got it in reverse. We've imposed import tariffs, not export tariffs. I'm saying we should strategically impose export tariffs instead of import tariffs.
 

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Ah, you're right, sorry... I have "exports" stuck in my brain.

We hit imports from those parts of the US that I mentioned, not exports.

And yes I agree, we need to hit exports to the US... particularly our natural resources that the US is so dependent on.
 

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Trudeau had no choice but to respond with an equal dollar for dollar retaliatory tariff war.

Europe and Mexico are doing the same thing, it's a group response to Trump's bulldog tactics.

Trump is attempting to play the extortion game with his country's allied trade partners... so we all need to stick together and slap him back just as hard.

We're going to feel some of the pain in this trade war, but we're playing a long game here people. If we don't do this now, the US (under Trump's dictatorship) will cause us even greater pain later on down the road when our economy, trade revenues, and jobs suffer in a domino effect.

All the other trade partners with the US that are getting hammered with these tariffs are doing the same thing for the exact same reason why we are. It's a necessary evil to put the bulldog back on his leash.

Meanwhile...

It's high time for Canada to find more dependable trade partners and wash our hands of trying to deal with the US. They can no longer be trusted as an economic partner. Time to take the NAFTA agreement and shred it.

It's a big world out there, and there's plenty of countries who would be more than happy to cut bilateral trade deals with us.

Why ? Because we can be trusted to keep our word with our allies, and most importantly... we can be trusted to not f*** them over later on down the road when agreements come up for renewal.

F*** Donald Trump and his little band of merry cronies.
You are free to trade with companies in most parts of the world . Why not have at it ? Why do you expect private companies to change ?

It is a strategic maneuver.

We hammered tarriffs on certain types of exports that are purchased mostly in GOP parts of the country... concentrating a huge portion of it in the upper midwest and northeast areas (industrial manufacturing sectors). In a nutshell: Trump country.

Hit Republicans where it hurts them the most: in their constituents' wallets.
You are free to do that .
 

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in the end we will pay more and the cost of living here will rise and even if the trade barriers are resolved at some point in the future, our costs will never decrease. So our already high cost of living becomes ever higher making it difficult for the average joe, not to mention those on the lower economic scale, harder to make ends meet. Just freakin great!
 

Curious Cdn

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Look, I've just given you several ideas for ending this li'l tiff, and you morons are gonna try to go dollar-to-dollar with a country with ten times your GDP. Good luck with that. Especially since your dollars are printed by Parker Brothers.

One of the key reasons why the Americans can't sell their stuff around the world anymore is their over-valued currency. American goods are too expensive. German goods are also too expensive but there is a cache of high quality associated with them. That is no longer the case with US manufactured stuff and any hint of higher quality is long gone. Our Parker Bros currency gives us some competitive advantage over you "dough boys"
 

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in the end the sale of Canadian goods is going to slow down and jobs in Canada are going to be lost.

the guy from Hamilton said it isn't like the steel making business is one where you can raise the price of your steel by 25% and expect your sales to remain the same.

It would all be great for America if they could flip a switch and start making all the thing they need themselves - but that boat sailed a long long time ago.

the only thing they are managing to do is create wide spread shortages - which should be really hurting by mid term election time - where America can vote this ass hat party out and put the democrats back in and they can undo everything president shit for brain is doing.

Trudeau had no choice but to respond with an equal dollar for dollar retaliatory tariff war.

Europe and Mexico are doing the same thing, it's a group response to Trump's bulldog tactics.

Trump is attempting to play the extortion game with his country's allied trade partners... so we all need to stick together and slap him back just as hard.

We're going to feel some of the pain in this trade war, but we're playing a long game here people. If we don't do this now, the US (under Trump's dictatorship) will cause us even greater pain later on down the road when our economy, trade revenues, and jobs suffer in a domino effect.

All the other trade partners with the US that are getting hammered with these tariffs are doing the same thing for the exact same reason why we are. It's a necessary evil to put the bulldog back on his leash.

Meanwhile...

It's high time for Canada to find more dependable trade partners and wash our hands of trying to deal with the US. They can no longer be trusted as an economic partner. Time to take the NAFTA agreement and shred it.

It's a big world out there, and there's plenty of countries who would be more than happy to cut bilateral trade deals with us.

Why ? Because we can be trusted to keep our word with our allies, and most importantly... we can be trusted to not f*** them over later on down the road when agreements come up for renewal.

F*** Donald Trump and his little band of merry cronies.
agree with all of this but we are so integrated into the America economy that I don't see a way forward that doesn't include them in a major way.
 

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First of all, calling Americans "Our Friends" is total nonsense.
Americans has no "Friends" ..... They have "Business Associates"
The North American Continent Is a "Corporation".

It is going to become much worse economically across the universe as the American Empire declines and begins the China rise onto the world center stage.

And if during the past 15 years, we in North America feel more "Poor" ..... then just kinda think how this "Poor" trip is hitting other countries around the globe. Every other country in the universe has seen huge drops in lifestyle and probably 5 times as much pain endured then what we here in North America feel because we enjoyed an American Dream.

America has never in its history showed any "Sympathy" towards Business Associates ..... If anything, they are the vultures who insist on remaining behind to "Monitor" or further ravage after the collapse/bankruptcy/military loss.

The world needs to get their act together ....

Citizens of every community around the globe need to be joining boycotts of American products.
Nevermind "Tariffs" .... "Boycott" everything American.
The hit to the American Brand name would be hugely damaging.

I know that such actions will cause huge financial havoc and uncertainties in the financial markets ...... but it is actually the Americans who own at least 75 percent of world assets, if not 90%. So it would be the Americans feeling 75-90 percent of the pain.

That is how you negotiate with a Business Associate.