Nationalize oil firms, almost half of Canadians say

White_Unifier

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No.

... Silly twit



It WILL push business away.

Under the suggestion of increased royalties by both Stelmach and later, Notley, the CapEx budgets by a number of oil co.s directed towards Alberta based projects were almost immediately transferred to Sask, BC and the USA.

Capital moves really fast and once spent, there's no undoing those expenditures.

This isn't rocket science bud

Sometimes that might be the whole point. Raising royalties even by a little can greatly reduce the rate of extraction.
 

OpposingDigit

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Petro Canada must of been making money because just look at all the assets they purchased before being sold off. Most people would say that Petro Canada was reinvesting its profit rather than dishing it out to shareholders as dividends.
 

captain morgan

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Sometimes that might be the whole point. Raising royalties even by a little can greatly reduce the rate of extraction.

If that's your goal, then just ban resource extraction or stop issuing any more permits.

No point in over complicating something that is really that straight forward.

... On that note, what's the master plan for all of your transportation and logistical needs in terms of running society?
 

White_Unifier

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If that's your goal, then just ban resource extraction or stop issuing any more permits.

No point in over complicating something that is really that straight forward.

... On that note, what's the master plan for all of your transportation and logistical needs in terms of running society?

We need fuel so we can't just ban it or just stop it. Raising royalties strikes a healthier balance to just discourage it.
 

captain morgan

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We need fuel so we can't just ban it or just stop it. Raising royalties strikes a healthier balance to just discourage it.

So, to be clear.

You need fuel and as such can't just ban it or stop using it, but the goal is to discourage the use of the fuel in question.

... So, I'll ask the same question a little differently this time.

What's the master plan in terms of a substitute for the verboten fuel vis-a-vis dealing with the transportation and logistical requirements in running society?
 

White_Unifier

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So, to be clear.

You need fuel and as such can't just ban it or stop using it, but the goal is to discourage the use of the fuel in question.

... So, I'll ask the same question a little differently this time.

What's the master plan in terms of a substitute for the verboten fuel vis-a-vis dealing with the transportation and logistical requirements in running society?

Raising royalties would encourage businesses to function more efficiently over time. It would encourage more innovation.
 

captain morgan

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Raising royalties would encourage businesses to function more efficiently over time. It would encourage more innovation.

Great.

Thyat's like teaching a guy to ski by taking him to the top of the steepest double black diamond run and pushing him down the slope with the idea that he'll adapt and learn extra super quick.

... At least your plan will provide lots of work for the morticians and cemeteries in the local areas

By the way, you still haven't answered my Q regarding substitutes
 

JamesBondo

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we dont have a pipeline that feeds the eastern provinces. so you dumb****s that want to nationalize the oil had better get busy laying pipe because I'm ****ing going postal if you think I'll sit in the dark.
 

Curious Cdn

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Just try nationalizing the oil companies and the CIA will be actively trying to change the Canadian government, the next day. Watch them support an Alberta-based armed insurgency ... death squads and all ... as per their time-proven model ... The "Lacombedanistas"

Ralph Klein VIVA!
 

White_Unifier

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Great.

Thyat's like teaching a guy to ski by taking him to the top of the steepest double black diamond run and pushing him down the slope with the idea that he'll adapt and learn extra super quick.

... At least your plan will provide lots of work for the morticians and cemeteries in the local areas

By the way, you still haven't answered my Q regarding substitutes

Substitutes? How about promoting higher-density cities with more walking and cycling paths? How about promoting more telecommuting and home offices? For starters.

I'm still waiting to hear if he figured out OEM.

I didn't get your point about them.
 

captain morgan

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Enjoy your 10 km cycle to work in -20... How refreshing.

Not every province has opportunity for hydro, let alone the provincial infrastructure to accommodate such.

You are living in a fantasy Machjo and the plan to cut-off the fuel supplies and hope that all is well is a piss-poor plan.
 

White_Unifier

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Enjoy your 10 km cycle to work in -20... How refreshing.

Not every province has opportunity for hydro, let alone the provincial infrastructure to accommodate such.

You are living in a fantasy Machjo and the plan to cut-off the fuel supplies and hope that all is well is a piss-poor plan.

Who says you couldn't cycle in the summer and drive in the winter? With higher urban density, public transit might be more efficient too. Again, I'm not proposing shutting the fuel industry down altogether, just raise royalties somewhat to shrink it.