Canadian Oil

[petros]

Too much NIMBYism that makes Canada price-takers instead of price-makers

[youtube]http://youtu.be/KyZhlW2D2BQ[/youtube]

Wtf?

 

[taxslave]

Well, I didn't know about that one, but I think we should have more.
Value added and cost reduction and all that.

The US will be the world's largest exporter by 2020 according to plan, so I wonder where that will leave us?

Analysts Raise Oil Price Forecasts
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Analysts-Raise-Oil-Price-Forecasts.html

That and higher interest rates could "third world" the whole country.
Not to mention the carbon tax.

Sucking hind tit as usual.
Or at least as long as our lefties are owned by US businesses.

How about Alberta refines the bitumen in Alberta and ships the finished product. If they can afford this multi-billion dollar pipeline, they can afford to build a refinery.

Far better we build a dozen or so refineries on the coast then not only do we get the jobs but the infrastructure will be in place when we start drilling the Georgia basin.

There is no pipe from Sask, yet. You blame Ontario for that, do you?

YEs. And Pappas trudOwe for trying to steal western oil for the sole benefit of Ontario manufacturing.

On Energy & First Nations, politicians want to have their cake and eat it too

All sunshine and broken promises

Justin Trudeau after election victory (John Tavares/Flickr CC)

If the first step in dealing with a problem is admitting you have one, then Canada has made some progress on the environment and Indigenous rights – but on that score alone.
We traded climate change-denying, First Nations-bashing Prime Minister Stephen Harper for the smooth-talking, Sunny Ways Justin Trudeau. He made bold declarations about fighting climate change on the campaign trail, then in Paris, earning him accolades from around the world. He installed Canada’s first ever Aboriginal Justice Minister, Jody Wilson-Raybould, promised a “new relationship” with First Nations, and vowed to adopt the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People (UNDRIP).
But many of his actions have not lived up to the words. The hypocrisy is on full display for everyone to behold. For instance, he recently told The National Observer thattripling Kinder Morgan’s dilbit pipeline capacity “is an unavoidable element in a national climate plan.” Huh?
Trudeau explained his twisted logic to CBC radio’s Gregor Craigie:
First of all, we need to have a world-class oceans protection plan in place, which is why we put over $1 billion in the biggest investment in protecting the B.C. coast that there’s ever been.

Let’s pause there a moment. Wouldn’t not adding 340 new oil tankers a year to the BC coast be an even better way to protect it? Justin continued:
Second, we have to have an ambitious plan to fight carbon emissions, to reduce carbon emissions, right across the country, which we’ve brought in with the pan-Canadian framework…And third, we need to make sure that we are getting our resources to market overseas, safely and securely.The only way we can get any of those things is if we do all three of those things together. That’s the plan that we put in place, and that’s what we’re going to move forward with.


On Energy & First Nations, politicians want to have their cake and eat it too -The Common Sense CanadianThe Common Sense Canadian

Wy is it the left is happy with all the bad things trudOWE has done yet get all pissy about the one thing he has done right?

71% of Tar Sands Production Owned by Foreign Interests
May 10, 2012

How much of Canada’s energy resource lies in foreign hands?
As Ottawa mulls the fate of two major energy deals – and the implications of foreign ownership in an economy heavily dependant on natural resources – we take a snapshot of who actually owns what in the oil and gas industry.
December 03, 2012
Oil and natural gas in Canada

How much of Canada’s energy resource lies in foreign hands?
As Ottawa mulls the fate of two major energy deals – and the implications of foreign ownership in an economy heavily dependant on natural resources – we take a snapshot of who actually owns what in the oil and gas industry.
December 03, 2012
Oil and natural gas in Canada

NEglecting the fact that it is Canadians that have most of these good paying jobs and the royalties remain in Canada.ANd these companies have to pay income tax in Canada.That is where the tax revenue comes fromto pay for your freebees.

Whales love swimming in, and respiring raw BC sewage.

It's really good for them

THey also love the onslaught of tourist boats roaring over them with sonars going.

 

[pgs]

KEEP THE OIL SANDS FOR DOMESTIC USE? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Pierre Trudeau is rolling over in his grave! His National Energy Policy that prompted Albertans to get those bumper stickers suggesting "let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark" is alive and well!

Our Pet hated the west- they were too independent minded to be suckered by veiled communist crap that Trudope was selling! So he punished them with the NEP making sure the oil stayed in the ground so it would be available "for Cdn use" ! This translates to "YOU WILL NEVER USE IT"!

Its been FIFTY YEARS and LIE-berals have not developed a single new policy- they just keep repackaging and recycling the same old crap in new wrapping! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!




And now we have Our idiot Boy Justin fiddling with oil policy and helping both BC and Alberta resolve their differences by paralyzing the entire process as he struggles not to enrage west coast lefties by approving the pipeline and struggles not to anger his environmental supporters by approving pipe lines- and of course nobody is buying his crap because we are still burning fossil fuel- we might as well use Alberta oil and help our economy instead of buying so much oil from socialist pesthole Venezuela which was a charter member of OPEC - except Our idiot Boy IS a Socialist and wants to help his fellow socialist swine dictator pals!

As for Alberta oil- consider this mess originally made by Our Pet Trudeau:

How sad that some very foolish people try to claim there is not much difference between Lie-beral and Conservative political parties. The reality is that Lie-berals annoy Conservatives by telling lies about Conservatives while Conservatives enrage Lie-berals by telling the TRUTH about Lie-berals! Consider these facts:

During the Mike Harris term as Ontari-owe premier-a Conservative minister was caught misusing ten thousand dollars of tax money for treats-the usual political thing-fancy restaurants and alcohol. And Harris FIRED the minister from his cabinet and made the minister pay the money back.

During that same month, Lie-beral deputy prime minister Sheila Copps was accused of spending one hundred and eighty six thousand dollars of tax payers money in Paris-SEVENTEEN TIMES MORE than the Conservative- on the usual political treats-fancy restaurants, 5 star hotels and alcohol. When questioned about the expenses-which included a couple of EXTRA free days in Paris with no political duty whatsoever-so she could adjust to jet lag she said-and NOT so she could simply goof off at tax payer expense in the city of lights-she put on her best Princess Royal demeanor and informed the reporters that she was DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER .....AND ANSWERED ONLY prime minister Chretien. Basically she told the reporters and tax payers to **** off and got away with it-not quite the same as the Harris response in spite of Copps taking OVER SEVENTEEN TIMES MORE money than the Harris minister!

Or how about Lie-berals wanting to accuse of Conservatives of being worse money managers than Lie-berals? Yet Lie-berals do NOT want to discuss the fact that their party was in charge during 70 of the 100 years of the twentieth century-during which time MOST of our current national debts were run up! It is sad but true FACT that our national debts increased most rapidly when LIE-berals and their socialist NDP allies worked together! Lie-berals don’t want to talk about the fact that Cdn debts historically built up MOST RAPIDLY during years when minority govts with Lie-beral prime ministers supported by NDP were in charge!

Recently a Lie-beral that Harper and Conservatives sold off Petro Canada-as if the crown corporation was actually USEFUL in some fashion to Cdns and this is a truly spectacular re-writing of history! Petro Canada was created in 1975 by Lie-beral prime minister (and closet communist) Pierre Trudeau. Petro Canada was a TYPICAL Lie-beral creation-a crown corporation sucking up massive amounts of tax money and consistently failing to show a profit in spite of preferential treatment by govt. The special govt aid included FREE access to assorted oil fields on crown land around the country-access which any private oil company would have to bid on and PAY for-and yet private companies out performed the crown corporation civil service Hogs at every turn in spite of govt aid to Petro Canada RIPOFF!

Petro Canada also bought out the small privately owned experimental tar sands project in west Alberta and expanded it massively. As the price of oil soared, other companies joined Petro Canada in exploiting the tar sands. So when our current prime minister the Boy with nice hair-for Brains speaks of shutting down the tar sands he is telling us he wants to DESTROY the energy policy CREATED BY his father the odious Pierre Trudope-our vicious PET!

By 1990, with Petro Canada STILL sucking up masses of tax dollars to keep afloat-and no real hope of ever making the govt employed Petro Hogs actually PAY their way; and with many private companies producing good profits in Alberta oil fields and making Petro Canada look STUPID; and with the Conservative govt of Brian Mulroney facing a recession, it was decided to cut the MANY losses of govt and sell off Petro Canada-it was NOTHING to do with Harper!! Lie-berals miss no opportunity to lie about Harper and like good socialists, they are quite willing to re-write history-just look at the crap they spout about Harper! Socialists believe their `good will` makes them infallible and any socialist plan that goes wrong must therefore have been sabotaged by their enemies and so Socialists believe they are ENTITLED to re-write history as they please!

Some Lie-berals may jump on this information and ask what is the difference between selling Petro Canada and selling Ontari-owe Hydro? The difference is this: There were and are many companies producing oil and oil prices do fluctuate up and down from time to time-competition between oil companies is not high...but there IS Some. Compare that to your electric bill-and I ASK-when was the last time the price of electricity EVER FELL? In your LIFETIME????

Further, oil is NOT something we need every day. We can walk or bicycle to work-in fact Lie-berals would like to ORDER us to do this! Loonie leftists and Lie-berals are behind the `war on cars` in Toronto. Or we can take a bus or subway. We can control oil consumption costs by car pooling or trading in the SUV on a smaller more fuel efficient car etc. We HAVE some choices about gas consumption-not many, but SOME!

With electricity we HAVE NO CHOICE-it is produced ONLY by one entity-GOVERNMENT! And we need electricity every day. We need it to run subways. Need it for street lights and stop lights. Need it for the heart monitor Granny is hooked up to. Need it for our furnace-the main fuel may be natural gas or even oil but the thermostat won’t run without electricity! Need it for our computers and machines at work.

Oil is something we can often do without if we are careful. Electricity is something we MUST have EVERY DAY!

All democratic govts long ago adopted the notion that a monopoly is a BAD THING and ought to be regulated heavily. Petro Canada was NOT a monopoly-just a very costly business failure and good riddance . Ontari-owe Hydro is a powerful monopoly that WE ALL need and Ontari-owe Lie-berals are selling it off for short term gain and long term pain-a quick one time infusion of cash in exchange for long term LOST PROFITS!

AND Lie-berals have ended the ability of provincial auditors to even look at the books of the electrical MONOPOLY in future and we ought to be asking what they are planning to hide in those now closed off books! Ontari-owe premier McWynnty-the Great Whore who sold herself, her party and our future to the Hogs has now sold 15 percent of Ontari-owe Hydro and has used that small sale as an excuse to completely shut the Hydro books IN SPITE of Hydro STILL being a publicly owned entity! Petro Canada was an easily replaced money pit. Ontari-owe Hydro is an essential service being stolen from Cdns!

There was NO CHANGE in the price or supply of oil after Petro Canada was sold but there WILL BE big changes in the cost of electricity in future in Ontari-owe! Lie-berals are scamming the public with this one and sneering as if Conservatives were the problem!

Lie-berals blame Conservatives for ruining the economy during the Harper years....yet after the 2008 recession (engineered by U.S. bankers) Lie-berals screamed at Harper for not spending enough borrowed money to save the economy! And now that Trudope-Our foolish Boy with hair for brains-is in charge and the economy is PLUMMETING FURTHER, Lie-berals are blaming Harper for spending TO MUCH! Such absurd hypocrisy from Lie-berals!

And how ironic is it that Justin, the Boy with nice hair for Brains campaigned in the recent election promising to CLOSE DOWN the Alberta tar sands projects-the COSTLY creation of Pierre Trudeau and his Lie-berals! Lie-berals are so muddled they cannot even keep their own policy straight much less figure out what others are doing or why!

Although the truth is that Our Boy is so selfish and pig headed that he will hurt anybody who disagrees with him-if he can. So oil from Lie-beral loathing Alberta stays in the ground while natural gas from more liberal friendly provinces is put in a new pipeline and shipped off to the west coast and environmentalists be damned-there are LIE-beral votes at stake!

And why has the Cdn dollar sunk so far and so fast recently? Money managers and economists are a LOT smarter than poor Justin and they can see (even if he cannot) that his economic `plan` is nothing more than a retread of the crap thrown at us by NDP Bob Rae!

The international money managers that Our hair-brained Boy wants to borrow from have seen this loonie leftist Lie-beral trick before-does anybody other than disgusted bankers remember Bob Rae and his Rae days? BoB the BOOB was going to spend us rich with borrowed money! Or look at the recent example of stupid debt and how best to piss off your creditors perpetrated in Greece! Money managers don’t like what they see of Our Boy! The Boy with hair for brains has been on the job for only a few months and the economic world has cast its vote: a 74 cent Cdn dollar is our reward for “letting the deficit take care of itself”!

Civil service Working Family Hogs LOVE the Boy because he is going to BUY their support and their love....but the real world of sensible economists think the Boy has hair for brains and Cdns ought to be economically punished for being stupid enough to elect the dolt!

But Lie-berals will tell you its all Harpers fault! Even when its LIE-beral promises being broken its STILL somehow all Harpers fault! LIE-berals want the Harper regime buried and forgotten so nobody will look back and compare foolish LIE-berals to previous more responsible govts! Its why Our Boy admires the Chinese-because THE PARTY writes the history! And Our Boy wonders why some people call his party LIE-berals?

You don’t like the liberals very much it would appear . Good rant.

 

[petros]

The refinery contributes over $300M in GDP annually to the local economy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_Refining

They should be everywhere in Canada, but they aren't (and like ont hydro, which has been) screwed, for communist reasons.

They should be where there are supply shortages.

BC as an example. Currently gas is $1.39L in Vancouver.

A 30+ cent premium. Even going to Washington will only bring you to what people are paying on average in the rest of Western Canada.

Border or no border the entire region is under supplied.

Chilliwack would be an ideal locale.

 

[taxslave]

And overtaxed to pay for public transit for those that don't drive.

 

[petros]

That's on your Hydro too.

 

[captain morgan]

And overtaxed to pay for public transit for those that don't drive.

I don't know how anyone can actually operate a business in BC

 

[petros]

Over charging.

 

[captain morgan]

What a win-win for everyone

 

[captain morgan]

Am really interested to find out how the Liberals intend on raising money in the next year.

An election is on the horizon and I'm pretty sure that the debt markets aren't to warm on Canada these days

 

[spilledthebeer]

Same crap as obama pulled in the uS

You left out the (double in Ontario) liebarrel housing crash, down 22% in january from last year same time.

just sayin.



Oh yeah, them are in canada now aren't they...oooopsi, my bad.

I meant ontario


point being

The refinery contributes over $300M in GDP annually to the local economy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_Refining

They should be everywhere in Canada, but they aren't (and like ont hydro, which has been) screwed, for communist reasons.

Apparently some people have not noticed that there WERE oil refineries in Canada once upon a time but they are now CLOSED! This is the natural consequence of 100 years of mostly LIE-beral policy! LIE-beral prime ministers ruled Canada for fully 70 years in the 20th century and routinely "solved" employment problems by throwing "grants" at foreign multi nationals to set up a branch plant here. It was short term gain and long term pain!

Our economy has been SOLD to the Yankees! Its why "our" oil is refined in Louisiana. Its why Danes can sell us Ikea furniture but we cannot sell them anything. Its why Swedes can sell us Volvo cars but we sell them nothing. Its why German tool maker Makita can sell us stuff and we sell them nothing. We are shut out of many world markets because we are that branch plant economy owned by foreigners - AND THEY TELL US WHERE WE MAY SELL!

This is why its such a HUGE mistake not to sell Alberta oil to Cdns- it isnt refined here but at least it is produced here and it keeps money in Canada instead of shipping it off to Venezuela to keep the eastern half of Canada running on foreign oil! And if Venezuela did not have the flow of oil money coming they might actually have to start sorting out their economy in the same way as Chile- ajnd the same way we ought to be sorting out our economy - and we should START by disposing of tax and spend mad LIE-berals- fifty billion in new debt in two years and Our idiot Boy will ride his trust fund off into the sunset once we hit the debt wall!

Civil service union Hogs and their LIE-beral allies THINK they are immune to the crap they are drowning US in!

 

[Curious Cdn]

Am really interested to find out how the Liberals intend on raising money in the next year.

An election is on the horizon and I'm pretty sure that the debt markets aren't to warm on Canada these days

Wait until the NDP stumble-bumbles their way into power in Ontario.

 

[pgs]

Apparently some people have not noticed that there WERE oil refineries in Canada once upon a time but they are now CLOSED! This is the natural consequence of 100 years of mostly LIE-beral policy! LIE-beral prime ministers ruled Canada for fully 70 years in the 20th century and routinely "solved" employment problems by throwing "grants" at foreign multi nationals to set up a branch plant here. It was short term gain and long term pain!

Our economy has been SOLD to the Yankees! Its why "our" oil is refined in Louisiana. Its why Danes can sell us Ikea furniture but we cannot sell them anything. Its why Swedes can sell us Volvo cars but we sell them nothing. Its why German tool maker Makita can sell us stuff and we sell them nothing. We are shut out of many world markets because we are that branch plant economy owned by foreigners - AND THEY TELL US WHERE WE MAY SELL!

This is why its such a HUGE mistake not to sell Alberta oil to Cdns- it isnt refined here but at least it is produced here and it keeps money in Canada instead of shipping it off to Venezuela to keep the eastern half of Canada running on foreign oil! And if Venezuela did not have the flow of oil money coming they might actually have to start sorting out their economy in the same way as Chile- ajnd the same way we ought to be sorting out our economy - and we should START by disposing of tax and spend mad LIE-berals- fifty billion in new debt in two years and Our idiot Boy will ride his trust fund off into the sunset once we hit the debt wall!

Civil service union Hogs and their LIE-beral allies THINK they are immune to the crap they are drowning US in!

See Greece , pain is sure to follow this madness , but as I am of an age that I won’t see it , should I continue to support tax and spend regimes ?

 

[spilledthebeer]

Apparently some people have not noticed that there WERE oil refineries in Canada once upon a time but they are now CLOSED! This is the natural consequence of 100 years of mostly LIE-beral policy! LIE-beral prime ministers ruled Canada for fully 70 years in the 20th century and routinely "solved" employment problems by throwing "grants" at foreign multi nationals to set up a branch plant here. It was short term gain and long term pain!

Our economy has been SOLD to the Yankees! Its why "our" oil is refined in Louisiana. Its why Danes can sell us Ikea furniture but we cannot sell them anything. Its why Swedes can sell us Volvo cars but we sell them nothing. Its why German tool maker Makita can sell us stuff and we sell them nothing. We are shut out of many world markets because we are that branch plant economy owned by foreigners - AND THEY TELL US WHERE WE MAY SELL!

This is why its such a HUGE mistake not to sell Alberta oil to Cdns- it isnt refined here but at least it is produced here and it keeps money in Canada instead of shipping it off to Venezuela to keep the eastern half of Canada running on foreign oil! And if Venezuela did not have the flow of oil money coming they might actually have to start sorting out their economy in the same way as Chile- ajnd the same way we ought to be sorting out our economy - and we should START by disposing of tax and spend mad LIE-berals- fifty billion in new debt in two years and Our idiot Boy will ride his trust fund off into the sunset once we hit the debt wall!

Civil service union Hogs and their LIE-beral allies THINK they are immune to the crap they are drowning US in!

Oh- and the REALLY FUNNY THING about hypocrite LIE-berals- they keep telling us they want to build the economy- at the same time they sneer at people like Harper for being "friendly" to business- but go back in time to read about LIE-beral C.D. Howe- the notorious "minister of everything" under several LIE-beral prime ministers during and after WW2- when Canada really began booming- Howe routinely spent long weekends hob-nobing with Roosevelts, Vanderbilts, Morgan and other pirates of industry!

In 1949 our longest serving prime minister Mackenzie King retired- King actually met Adolf Hitler in 1936- shortly after Hitler told the world that "Germany would forge its future in blood and iron" and Kign then told Cdn parliament that "Hitler was a dour but basically good man giving the German people some much needed hope and discipline"! And King went on to whine that Winston Churchill was a war monger and rabble rouser! Cdns went to WW2 roughly trained and badly equipped because LIE-berals RESPECTED Hitler and refused to start arming Canada! Great LIE-beral values on display there eh!

And in those days being a politician in Canada was considered a part time job and our longest serving PM King had little money so the bloated plutocrat Roosevelt family stepped up and gave King a NICE LITTLE life time pension to live on!

And now LIE-berals SCORN business people and our economy is loaded with debt! An odd coincidence maybe?

And what are we to make of the sour statements of self professed life long staunch LIE-beral supporter Peter C. Newman? He has told us in his book "When the Gods Changed" that the LIE-beral party no longer has any values, no more morals, no goals, NO PLAN" "All they have now is a belief they are entitled to rule"!

Justin Trudope has invited tens of thousands of illegals to come here with NO PLAN how to house, feed or employ them! He is the crazy cat lady of the immigration world- compulsively collecting!

Our idiot Boy has run up huge debts in 2 years wirth no sign of any plan to shut off the spending! In fact his electoral reform "plan" would have splintered our parliament into little warring factions and turned our govt into exactly the same sort of paralyzed mess as the Italian version- 65 govts in 67 years or something like that - with NO long term planning- just a horde of lunatic fringe parties looting and pillaging and blaming each other and that is NO PLAN!

And how does LIE-beral Party plan to defend itself from all the FAILED POLICIES? They will label us as "Islamophobes" and call us hate mongers and haul us into Human Rights Kangaroo Courts were politically correct LIE-beral judges will punish us for hurting LIE-beral sensibilities! The problems and FAILURES WILL STILL BE IN PLAIN VIEW- we just will not be allowed to mention them!

That is the full extent of LIE-beral planning- to simply silence critics and to make themselves and their Hog allies comfortable on the govt Gravy train - REGARDLESS of what happens to the country!

See Greece , pain is sure to follow this madness , but as I am of an age that I won’t see it , should I continue to support tax and spend regimes ?

Oh- you are old enough to escape the pain you think? Are you planning to DIE in the next 6 months? We have been told that if NAFTA dies then our federal deficit may balloon to as much as $120 billion dollars and that takes us WELL INTO Greek territory!

And as of 2012 we were told that federal LIE-berals had made pension promises of $300 billion dollars to their federal union Hogs- with other levels of govt owing more hundreds of billions of dollars in pension promises. We were told that 97 percent of all defined benefit pension plans were in serious danger of bankruptcy unless they got huge new infusions of cash very soon- and can you picture that fiscal chaos if our retired civil service |Hogs had to suddenly take a FIFTY PERCENT CUT in pension payouts while at the same time currently employed Hogs had to face a fifty percent INCREASE in pension contributions!

But dont worry- LIE-berals have a plan for this trouble- they have arranged with their union pals and LIE-beral loving news madia NOT TO TALK ABOUT THE LOOMING DISASTER! There- now all is good- for LIE-berals!

Of course our electricity rates have soared as LIE-berals have turned our electrical system into a vast slush fund for their union pals and have slammed shut the books because its none of our business what they do with OUR MONEY!

And if Ontaari-owe LIE-berals win the election in June 2018, we can count on them to go on an epic tax loot and pillage campaign of staggering proportions to pay for the union Hog and ethnic voters they have bought! So -if you want to escape disaster you BETTER DIE SOON!

 

[Twin_Moose]

Apparently some people have not noticed that there WERE oil refineries in Canada once upon a time but they are now CLOSED! This is the natural consequence of 100 years of mostly LIE-beral policy! LIE-beral prime ministers ruled Canada for fully 70 years in the 20th century and routinely "solved" employment problems by throwing "grants" at foreign multi nationals to set up a branch plant here. It was short term gain and long term pain!

Yes PET set it up so all the refining would be done in the East and the refined goods shipped back to the West, so the bulk of the jobs would be in Ont. and Que. 3 refineries in Montreal down to 1 owned by Suncor which got Enbridge to reverse the flow of Line 9 to refine their own oil from Ft Mac. I think there was 3 or 4 in or around Toronto and they are down to 0 or 1 I believe due to the fact that Alta, and soon after Sask. started refining themselves.

 

[petros]

Canadian Refineries

Alberta

Strathcona Refinery, Edmonton (Imperial Oil), 187,000 bbl/d (29,700 m3/d)
Scotford Refinery, Scotford (Shell Canada), 100,000 bbl/d (16,000 m3/d)
Edmonton Refinery, Edmonton (Suncor Energy), 135,000 bbl/d (21,500 m3/d) - formerly Petro-Canada (before Aug 2009) and historically a Gulf refinery and British American.
Sturgeon Bitumen Refinery, Alberta's Industrial Heartland (North West Redwater Partnership), 50,000 bitumen bbl/d (7,900 bitumen m3/d) - Phase 1 of North West Upgrading/Canadian Natural Upgrading)
Scotford Upgrader, Scotford (AOSP - Shell Canada 60%, Chevron Corporation 20%, Marathon Oil 20%), 250,000 bbl/d (40,000 m3/d)
Horizon Oil Sands, Fort McMurray (Canadian Natural Resources), 110,000 bitumen bbl/d (17,000 bitumen m3/d)
Long Lake, Fort McMurray (OPTI Canada Inc. 35% and Nexen Inc. 65%), 70,000 bitumen bbl/d (11,000 bitumen m3/d)
Syncrude, Fort McMurray (Canadian Oil Sands Trust, Imperial Oil, Suncor, Nexen, Conoco Phillips, Mocal Energy and Murphy Oil), 350,000 bitumen bbl/d (56,000 bitumen m3/d)
Suncor Oil Sands, Fort McMurray (Suncor), 450,000 bitumen bbl/d (72,000 bitumen m3/d)
British Columbia Edit
Burnaby Refinery, Burnaby (Chevron Corporation), 55,000 bbl/d (8,700 m3/d), Nelson Complexity Index 9.1
Prince George Refinery, Prince George (Husky Energy), 12,000 bbl/d (1,900 m3/d)
New Brunswick Edit
Irving Oil Refinery, Saint John (Irving Oil), 300,000 bbl/d (48,000 m3/d)
Newfoundland and Labrador Edit
North Atlantic Refinery, Come by Chance (North Atlantic Refining), 130,000 bbl/d (21,000 m3/d)
Ontario Edit
Nanticoke Refinery, Nanticoke (Imperial Oil), 112,000 bbl/d (17,800 m3/d)
Sarnia Refinery, Sarnia (Imperial Oil), 115,000 bbl/d (18,300 m3/d)
Sarnia Refinery, Sarnia (Suncor Energy), 85,000 bbl/d (13,500 m3/d)
Shell Corunna Refinery, Corunna (Shell Canada), 75,000 bbl/d (11,900 m3/d)
Mississauga (Imperial Oil), 7,550 bbl/d (1,200 m3/d) - known as Port Credit Plant and historically a Texaco refinery, closed in 1985[37]
Mississauga (Suncor Energy), 15,600 bbl/d (2,480 m3/d) - formerly Petro-Canada and known as Clarkson Refinery, refining ceased in 1993
Oakville Refinery, Oakville, Ontario (Suncor Energy), 90,000 bbl/d (14,000 m3/d) - formerly Petro-Canada (before Aug 2009) and historically a Gulf refinery, refining ceased in 2005
Oakville Refinery - Oakville, Ontario (Shell Canada), 44,000 bbl/d (7,000 m3/d) - closed in 1983
Quebec Edit
Montreal Refinery, Montreal (Suncor Energy), 140,000 bbl/d (22,000 m3/d) - formerly Petro-Canada (before Aug 2009) and historically a Petrofina refinery[38]
Quebec City Refinery, Lévis (Ultramar) (acquired by Valero in 2001), 265,000 bbl/d (42,100 m3/d),[38] Nelson Complexity Index 7.7[36]
Saskatchewan Edit
CCRL Refinery Complex, Regina (Federated Co-operatives)), 145,000 bbl/d (23,100 m3/d)
Husky Lloydminster Refinery, Lloydminster (Husky Energy), 25,000 bbl/d (4,000 m3/d)
Husky Lloydminster Upgrader Lloydminster (Husky Energy), 75,000 bbl/d (11,900 m3/d)
Moose Jaw Refinery, Moose Jaw (Gibson Energy), 19,000 bbl/d (3,000 m3/d)

 

[Curious Cdn]

Yes PET set it up so all the refining would be done in the East and the refined goods shipped back to the West, so the bulk of the jobs would be in Ont. and Que. 3 refineries in Montreal down to 1 owned by Suncor which got Enbridge to reverse the flow of Line 9 to refine their own oil from Ft Mac. I think there was 3 or 4 in or around Toronto and they are down to 0 or 1 I believe due to the fact that Alta, and soon after Sask. started refining themselves.

You lost me. What mechanism did PET or anyone else put in place to move crude oil to the East and refined product back to the West? There was/is no infrastructure in place to do so other than grossly inefficient choo-choo trains. It never happened. It would never have happened as it is a kooky idea that couldn't have ever paid it's way in any form. It is Western Separatists fake news.

 

[Twin_Moose]

You lost me. What mechanism did PET or anyone else put in place to move crude oil to the East and refined product back to the West? There was/is no infrastructure in place to do so other than grossly inefficient choo-choo trains. It never happened. It would never have happened as it is a kooky idea that couldn't have ever paid it's way in any form. It is Western Separatists fake news.

NEP Oil came East on pipelines went west on trains and trucks Sarnia has an Enbridge terminal and Line 9 was originally built to feed Montreal with oil for their refineries, after the East started to buy cheaper foreign oil Line 9 was reversed to haul excess oil back towards Sarnia to feed the Ont. refineries. Now with the Suncor refinery in Montreal Line 9 reversed once again to supply Suncor with their own oil.

 

[Curious Cdn]

NEP Oil came East on pipelines went west on trains and trucks Sarnia has an Enbridge terminal and Line 9 was originally built to feed Montreal with oil for their refineries, after the East started to buy cheaper foreign oil Line 9 was reversed to haul excess oil back towards Sarnia to feed the Ont. refineries. Now with the Suncor refinery in Montreal Line 9 reversed once again to supply Suncor with their own oil.

There are no oil pipelines east. Our oil comes from Venezuela. try, though.

 

[captain morgan]

There are no oil pipelines east. Our oil comes from Venezuela. try, though.

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