Is God competent or incompetent?

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Gilgamesh

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Epicurus took care of the God delusion centuries before the birth of Jesus. I've never seen anyone refute this short quote.

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
 
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Gilgamesh said:
Epicurus took care of the God delusion centuries before the birth of Jesus. I've never seen anyone refute this short quote.

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
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This has become a simplistic view thanks to science having discovered evolution.


Evolution is responsible for most human to human evil.
All we can do as we evolve is either cooperate or compete.
Cooperation is considered good while competition will be seen as evil from the losers perspective.


To end that evil, if there was a God, would probably mean forcing the extinction of man.


If you were a God, would you end evil?


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DL
 
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French Patriot said:
This has become a simplistic view thanks to science having discovered evolution.


Evolution is responsible for most human to human evil.
All we can do as we evolve is either cooperate or compete.
Cooperation is considered good while competition will be seen as evil from the losers perspective.


To end that evil, if there was a God, would probably mean forcing the extinction of man.


If you were a God, would you end evil?


Regards
DL
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Evolution does not explain creation.

The division between what is alive, organic, "quick" and what is inorganic, mineral and "dead" is abrupt and profound. There are no part-way steps in nature around us whereby we can see the inorganic metamorphosing into the organic. There is only one or the other and if the inorganic some how "evolved" (why would it) into living material, we would still see it happening all of the time. There still is no complete explanation backed up by any evidence as to how and why life came into being. God is as valid a theory as any other, at this point.
 
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Curious Cdn said:
Evolution does not explain creation.

The division between what is alive, organic, "quick" and what is inorganic, mineral and "dead" is abrupt and profound. There are no part-way steps in nature around us whereby we can see the inorganic metamorphosing into the organic. There is only one or the other and if the inorganic some how "evolved" (why would it) into living material, we would still see it happening all of the time. There still is no complete explanation backed up by any evidence as to how and why life came into being. God is as valid a theory as any other, at this point.
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I do not agree because, if there was a God, and he wanted to be relevant to man, he would pop up and prove his existence.


Right?


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French Patriot said:
I do not agree because, if there was a God, and he wanted to be relevant to man, he would pop up and prove his existence.


Right?


Regards
DL
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Maybe, we humans are just a passing, intermediate stage in a progression to something much better ... like the dinosaurs were. We can only perceive in three dimensions, we're self destructive to a fault and most of us can't agree on the colour of shyte. We're hardly the penultimate in consciousness!
 
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Curious Cdn said:
Maybe, we humans are just a passing, intermediate stage in a progression to something much better ... like the dinosaurs were. We can only perceive in three dimensions, we're self destructive to a fault and most of us can't agree on the colour of shyte. We're hardly the penultimate in consciousness!
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We continue to evolve to a better form, I agree.


We are still the best possible human we can be at this point in time, given the past history that got us here.


We are living in the best of all possible world that our history could produce.


Not the best world we might be able to imagine, but the only possible world thanks to entropy.


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DL
 
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