A basic income for all

[spilledthebeer]

LIE-berals are remarkable for their selective vision- they insist that we must NEVER believe what we see on news media- and then DEMAND that we accept their arguments and explanations and excuses for their MANY failed policies- based on highly subjective crap printed in LIE-beral friendly media! There IS a reason we call them LIE-berals! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Here is an older post to remind us how LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY screwing with our immigration system for their own utterly selfish motives!

Here is a review of a book detailing how and WHY LIE-berals plan to use immigration rule changes to permanently ALTER Cdn society.

Book review by Anthony Furey, Postmedia Network. First posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 06:03 PM EDT | Updated: Sunday, May 01, 2016 09:06 AM EDT.

Candice Malcolm's new book Losing True North

When Justin Trudeau became Canada’s 23rd prime minister, he promised to govern differently – in an optimistic and transparent way.

Instead, as author and Sun columnist Candice Malcolm reports in her new book, Losing True North, Trudeau has chosen to pursue a cynical political agenda to manipulate Canada’s immigration system.

As authorities in Europe struggle to respond to terror attacks and waves of migration from conflict zones, Trudeau is haphazardly throwing Canada’s doors open to the world.

Why is Trudeau granting Canadian citizenship to a convicted terrorist? Why is he scrapping the language test for many citizenship applicants?

Malcolm puts forward compelling evidence that the prime minister is undermining Canadian values — and doing it for one simple reason: so his Liberal Party can win favour with special interest groups and add to its voting coalition in time for the next election.

With his radical changes to our immigration system, Trudeau is sacrificing Canada’s traditions and advantages. He is putting our economy, our national security and our very way of life at risk.

Trudeau is changing our country – and changing what it means to be Canadian.

Losing True North is a wake-up call to all Canadians.

Q&A with Losing True North author Candice Malcolm:

Why write this book now?

"Justin Trudeau has wasted no time in implementing his radical, partisan immigration agenda. His policies are already hurting Canadians and putting our national security at risk. We shouldn’t let him get away with it."

What’s your biggest concern with this issue?

"That Trudeau’s policies will put Canadians’ lives at risk. A secondary concern is that his schemes will drive public skepticism towards immigration. Trudeau may wake up in 4 years to a country that no longer welcomes newcomers with open arms."

What do you hope readers take away from the book?

"These are dangerous times. I hope Canadians remember that it’s each of our responsibility to remain vigilant against threats to our freedom. Canadians should pay attention – these are issues that will change our country."

Are you optimistic about the future?

"Yes. I may not have confidence in our prime minister, but I do have faith in the Canadian public. Canadians instinctively understand the important balance of freedom and security, and have a tremendous sense of justice and fairness. We will get through these challenging times, regardless of Trudeau’s disastrous agenda."

FOUR MISTAKES

Four ways Trudeau is hurting Canada with his citizenship and immigration agenda:

1. Gambling Canada’s national security and public safety, making us more vulnerable to Islamic terrorist organizations and criminal networks.

2. Opening us up to more fraud and abuse by those who seek to take advantage of our generosity.

3. Undoing the economic benefits of immigration by loosening the rules and accepting too many elderly immigrants.

4. Undermining public trust in our system and driving more Canadians to reject more immigration.

 

[White_Unifier]

Good ideas W.U. but you'll never prevent the purchase of addictive substances unless you kill the vendors!

Good point. To give money to an addict is like giving a blood transfusion to a man with a severed artery.

If we are to give money to addicts, then we need to crack down hard on the supply to stop the bleeding first so that the blood we give them will actually stay with them.

 

[spilledthebeer]

Good point. To give money to an addict is like giving a blood transfusion to a man with a severed artery.

If we are to give money to addicts, then we need to crack down hard on the supply to stop the bleeding first so that the blood we give them will actually stay with them.

AS always- those who know history recognize that there are proven answers to most problems! In Imperial China- circa 1900- something like 65 percent of the entire country was addicted to Opium- the less powerful opiate that Heroin and Morphine are derived from. Chinese got their drug problem under control by using several methods.

First- govt action to limit smuggling- meaning more rigorous searches at the border- something Cdn LIE-berals are ignoring as a solution.

Second- addicts treated in confined facilites- no getting to choose if you want to quit- if you are identified as an addict- off you go. At the secure facility- your first visit will be pleasant as you are seen as ill and in need of aid and you will be kept till drug residue is out of your system- then you will be released. If you get identified a second time you will be taken back to the facility and treated as a victim that has been foolish and relapsed. You will be treated decently but you will be expected to make yourself useful later- washing floors, cleaning up vomit and etc and after serving some honest community service you will be released. |If you get picked up a third time you will be returned to the facility and get minimal treatment- clean up your own vomit- make your own bed if you can, nobody available to sponge your fevered brow or spoon feed you if you are too weak- and once you have the strength you WILL do community service a the facility because you are a three time screw up and social parasite! Get cught a fourth time and its bullet in the head for you.

As for drug smugglers and dealers- its quick trial and bullet in the head upon conviction!

Now- as LIE-berals are not even willing to put mass killers such as Clifford Olsen and Paul Bernardo out of their deranged misery- we KNOW that executing mere drug dealer or screwed up addicts will not fly here! This leaves the solution of much increased detection of drugs. \better tracking of chemicals needed to make crack and etc and more aggressive searches of shipping entering and leaving Canada- and of course LIE-berals dont want to do that either because it would take away from their gravy stash- with the added bonus that people smuggling counterfeit crap here from third world pest holes would have their `business` interfered with and LIE-berals might lose votes!

Anybody see the recent news in which Markham`s Asia Pacific Mall was nominated as one of the worlds very largest vendors of counterfeit crap? here are links to Chinese Communist Party and Chinese Peoples Red Army in this crap! There is reason to believe that Chinese govt likes the hard currency the fraudsters are bringing in!

The idea that Our idiot Boy Justin can insult Trump with impunity, ignore Yankee concerns with the tens of thousands of Illegals coming here with no Cdn worries about terrorists activities and get NAFTA killed off because Yankees do not want to import terrorists along with their Cdn dairy and softwood lumber, and then take up the NAFTA slack by doing deals with China are the delusions of a fool!

 

[White_Unifier]

AS always- those who know history recognize that there are proven answers to most problems! In Imperial China- circa 1900- something like 65 percent of the entire country was addicted to Opium- the less powerful opiate that Heroin and Morphine are derived from. Chinese got their drug problem under control by using several methods.

First- govt action to limit smuggling- meaning more rigorous searches at the border- something Cdn LIE-berals are ignoring as a solution.

Second- addicts treated in confined facilites- no getting to choose if you want to quit- if you are identified as an addict- off you go. At the secure facility- your first visit will be pleasant as you are seen as ill and in need of aid and you will be kept till drug residue is out of your system- then you will be released. If you get identified a second time you will be taken back to the facility and treated as a victim that has been foolish and relapsed. You will be treated decently but you will be expected to make yourself useful later- washing floors, cleaning up vomit and etc and after serving some honest community service you will be released. |If you get picked up a third time you will be returned to the facility and get minimal treatment- clean up your own vomit- make your own bed if you can, nobody available to sponge your fevered brow or spoon feed you if you are too weak- and once you have the strength you WILL do community service a the facility because you are a three time screw up and social parasite! Get cught a fourth time and its bullet in the head for you.

As for drug smugglers and dealers- its quick trial and bullet in the head upon conviction!

Now- as LIE-berals are not even willing to put mass killers such as Clifford Olsen and Paul Bernardo out of their deranged misery- we KNOW that executing mere drug dealer or screwed up addicts will not fly here! This leaves the solution of much increased detection of drugs. \better tracking of chemicals needed to make crack and etc and more aggressive searches of shipping entering and leaving Canada- and of course LIE-berals dont want to do that either because it would take away from their gravy stash- with the added bonus that people smuggling counterfeit crap here from third world pest holes would have their `business` interfered with and LIE-berals might lose votes!

Anybody see the recent news in which Markham`s Asia Pacific Mall was nominated as one of the worlds very largest vendors of counterfeit crap? here are links to Chinese Communist Party and Chinese Peoples Red Army in this crap! There is reason to believe that Chinese govt likes the hard currency the fraudsters are bringing in!

The idea that Our idiot Boy Justin can insult Trump with impunity, ignore Yankee concerns with the tens of thousands of Illegals coming here with no Cdn worries about terrorists activities and get NAFTA killed off because Yankees do not want to import terrorists along with their Cdn dairy and softwood lumber, and then take up the NAFTA slack by doing deals with China are the delusions of a fool!

Singapore has done a pretty good job of it too. When they replaced mandatory death sentence for drug trafficking with death sentence by default except for when the person cooperates extensively to help catch his higher ups, everyone applauded its improvement of human rights. Singapore fired back that this had nothing to do with human rights but rather with giving the convict an incentive to cooperate to catch more smugglers. Now that's the kind of attitude Canada needs.

 

[Cannuck]

Unlike social conservatives, I don't have a blind trust in gubmint

 

[JLM]

Singapore has done a pretty good job of it too. When they replaced mandatory death sentence for drug trafficking with death sentence by default except for when the person cooperates extensively to help catch his higher ups, everyone applauded its improvement of human rights. Singapore fired back that this had nothing to do with human rights but rather with giving the convict an incentive to cooperate to catch more smugglers. Now that's the kind of attitude Canada needs.

You hit the nail on the head there. Things aren't going to improve until those bastards are put out of commission. Trump has the right idea about that!

 

[Hoid]

Singapore has done a pretty good job of it too. When they replaced mandatory death sentence for drug trafficking with death sentence by default except for when the person cooperates extensively to help catch his higher ups, everyone applauded its improvement of human rights. Singapore fired back that this had nothing to do with human rights but rather with giving the convict an incentive to cooperate to catch more smugglers. Now that's the kind of attitude Canada needs.

Canada will never have the death penalty.

 

[JLM]

Singapore has done a pretty good job of it too. When they replaced mandatory death sentence for drug trafficking with death sentence by default except for when the person cooperates extensively to help catch his higher ups, everyone applauded its improvement of human rights. Singapore fired back that this had nothing to do with human rights but rather with giving the convict an incentive to cooperate to catch more smugglers. Now that's the kind of attitude Canada needs.

Singapore doesn't put up with ANY shit. Actually they are a little extreme. Just erring on the side of caution I guess. If you happen to have a stop over there, don't stand at the airport smoking a joint while awaiting a flight out. One guy tried it and got the death sentence carried out almost immediately. They don't f**k around there!

 

[White_Unifier]

Canada will never have the death penalty.

Too bad.

Yeah, prohibition always works.

The Canadian Centre for Substance Abuse states that tobacco cost the Canadian economy 17 billion, alcohol 14.6 billion, and illegal drugs 8.2 billion Canadian dollars in 2002.
Costs of Problematic Substance Use | Canadian Centre on Substance Use and Addiction

It's interesting to note that two legal drugs each cost more to the Canadian economy than all illegal drugs combined. What's up with that?
I thought prohibition doesn't work?

Singapore has its drug problem comparably more under control than others in the region. China did a good job of bringing the opium trade under control too. You just have to want to.

 

[Hoid]

Too bad we aren't Texas?

 

[White_Unifier]

Too bad we aren't Texas?

Texas is soft compared to Singapore.

Singapore doesn't put up with ANY shit. Actually they are a little extreme. Just erring on the side of caution I guess. If you happen to have a stop over there, don't stand at the airport smoking a joint while awaiting a flight out. One guy tried it and got the death sentence carried out almost immediately. They don't f**k around there!

Why do you think Singapore's per capita GDS is higher than Canada's?

Education plays a part, yes. But another reason is Singapore actually cares for its poor. For instance, while Ontario Lottery advertises on TV, Singapore bans the advertising of casinos. In Canada, a self-exclusion list means that you can still gamble until you win and then the casino will refuse to pay you.
In Singapore, a self-exclusion list means you have to scan your ID at the entrance and the machine will cross-reference it with the exclusion list. If you're on it, they'll escort you out before you even enter. Furthermore, in Singapore, family members, employers, and creditors could add a person to an exclusion list. A person could contest the request but if they can prove gambling addiction, he'll be excluded from the casino.

That's how a country that cares for its poor operates.

Unlike social conservatives, I don't have a blind trust in gubmint

Unlike extreme liberals, I recognize the need for government.

 

[captain morgan]

The Canadian Centre for Substance Abuse states that tobacco cost the Canadian economy 17 billion, alcohol 14.6 billion, and illegal drugs 8.2 billion Canadian dollars in 2002.
Costs of Problematic Substance Use | Canadian Centre on Substance Use and Addiction

It's interesting to note that two legal drugs each cost more to the Canadian economy than all illegal drugs combined. What's up with that?
I thought prohibition doesn't work?

Singapore has its drug problem comparably more under control than others in the region. China did a good job of bringing the opium trade under control too. You just have to want to.

Those stats don't include the offset in the taxes collected on tobacco and alcohol

I'd also question of the costs related to Court proceedings and incarceration are included on the drug issue

 

[White_Unifier]

Those stats don't include the offset in the taxes collected on tobacco and alcohol

I'd also question of the costs related to Court proceedings and incarceration are included on the drug issue

How do you know the stats don't include the offset? Taxes aren't actually a cost to the Canadian economy since they return to the coffers.

Too bad we aren't Texas?

Too bad we aren't Singapore. I mean seriously! I buy vegan because out of compassion, so I'm hardly the kind who'd want the death penalty for giggles. At the same time though, a compassionate society needs to crack down hard to deter narcotics trafficking not because we get a kick out of hurting or killing traffickers (since they have family, friends, etc. too and might even have just come down on their luck in life themselves), but we need to care for the addicts too.

 

[Cannuck]

Unlike extreme liberals, I recognize the need for government.

Ya, you're right. Liberals hate government.

 

[White_Unifier]

Ya, you're right. Liberals hate government.

Liberals or extreme liberals?

 

[captain morgan]

How do you know the stats don't include the offset?

Because it's not in the best interests that the Canadian Centre on Substance Use and Addiction to publish numbers that don't provide the most extreme situation possible.

Think about it Machjo, they used a 15 year window of costs (most likely healthcare related) and ignored the lifetime of tax contributions, not only the sin taxes but the bevy of Fed and prov sales taxes, hidden taxes, etc.

If these costs were truly the big concern for gvt and the Canadian Centre on Substance Use and Addiction, smokes and booze would be prohibited, but the fact is that it's actually gubmint that has the biggest addiction to smlokes and booze by virtue of the billions they collect in taxes on these each year

Taxes aren't actually a cost to the Canadian economy since they return to the coffers.

You're nuts.

Removing that (tax) money from the pockets of the average consumer costs the economy plenty in the form of greater purchasing trends of the average consumer

 

[White_Unifier]

I'd think moderate liberals recognize the need for government just as moderate conservatives do.

 

[Cannuck]

Liberals or extreme liberals?

There's no difference

 

[captain morgan]

I'd think moderate liberals recognize the need for government just as moderate conservatives do.

It's the size of gubmint that's the issue

 

[Cannuck]

It's the size of gubmint that's the issue

The power of gubmint is what is important.