What are the chances Alberta will get a new pipeline?

[captain morgan]

Driving a pipeline through BC is politically impossible. It requires the permissions of a dozen First Nations.

Nope.

Fed jurisdiction and all of the whining by Burnaby or the FNs are meaningless if the Feds allow it

 

[Twin_Moose]

I would say that the toll charge for use of the pipeline would float with the oil prices.

The economic spin off is more than enough compensation for a province to accommodate a minor inconvenience

 

[petros]

Nope.

Fed jurisdiction and all of the whining by Burnaby or the FNs are meaningless if the Feds allow it

The Spirit of Elvis is kicking ass and taking names.

He'll kick Injun ass back to Siberia.

The economic spin off is more than enough compensation for a province to accommodate a minor inconvenience

The Feds bought the Prairies a shiny new Port in Prince Rupert.

Watch for sea can style oil tanks coming to a well head near you.

 

[Hoid]

if the Feds owned all the land between alberta and pr you would all set wouldn't you.

 

[captain morgan]

The Feds bought the Prairies a shiny new Port in Prince Rupert.

Watch for sea can style oil tanks coming to a well head near you.

I have come across a company that is currently producing portable LNG plants (trucks) that can operate right at the wellhead and transport the LNGs to a central gathering/transmission facility

 

[Hoid]

why not just drive another pipeline down to the states and into their network?

 

[captain morgan]

if the Feds owned all the land between alberta and pr you would all set wouldn't you.

Feds have complete authority over the ports, interprovincial highways, waterways, airports railways, etc.

Like I said, Burnaby can mince around like little pansies all they want, the decision isn't up to them

why not just drive another pipeline down to the states and into their network?

That's happening already... has been for years

 

[petros]

Then send tankers to China from Puget Sound?

 

[captain morgan]

Jordan Cove in Ore will be operational soon.

 

[petros]

Even better. A 4 days sail further from China than Prince Rupert.

 

[Hoid]

So you don't even need BC or anything else. All the pipelines are already there in the States. Use them.

 

[Twin_Moose]

So you don't even need BC or anything else. All the pipelines are already there in the States. Use them.

Then we are at the mercy of U.S. pricing that is the whole argument to have our own ports to take advantage of world demand and world market pricing

 

[petros]

How will BC get its oil to Burnaby?

 

[Hoid]

Then we are at the mercy of U.S. pricing that is the whole argument to have our own ports to take advantage of world demand and world market pricing

you have to have your own ports ?

alberta is land locked.

 

[captain morgan]

Then we are at the mercy of U.S. pricing that is the whole argument to have our own ports to take advantage of world demand and world market pricing

We are and the US is benefiting.

... But right now, BC oil and gas needs the AB and Sask systems to get to market and as you BC folks have such dirty oil, I think that an eco tax of say $25/bbl and $100/mcf is in order

 

[Hoid]

How will BC get its oil to Burnaby?

we will build a pipeline through Alberta.

 

[Twin_Moose]

I heard there is a proposal to open a terminal at Churchill, but the couple month window of shipping I don't think it is worth it personally

 

[petros]

So it just sits now? all 100,000bbl a day? Is that what Site C is for? Fill it with oil and wait for a pipeline?

 

[Twin_Moose]

we will build a pipeline through Alberta.

You already have it is to get it to the world market that is the problem

 

[captain morgan]

I heard there is a proposal to open a terminal at Churchill, but the couple month window of shipping I don't think it is worth it personally

It can work, especially now since we've had an ice free North since 2013