Canada to admit nearly 1 million immigrants over next 3 years

Cannuck

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This is the economic argument idiots routinely make about immigration. More immigrants means more jobs doing stuff for immigrants! What it leaves out is that immigrants need jobs or else they're on welfare. So while bringing in hundreds of thousands of people increases the size of the demand, and thus jobs, it also increases the number of people needing jobs.

To put it language even a simpleton can understand. If you have dinner and invite your neighbour's family to dinner and he brings food, you have more food! But you have more people consuming it. So it's not like there's actually more food for you. The table is just more crowded now. Not to mention the bathroom.

This is the arguments racist use
 

petros

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I'm saying that if you're growing your population you need more housing. Even maintaining your population requires housing due to replacing older houses. It really isn't a difficult concept, even for the simpletons here
And yet occupancy doubled in the Hat with zero need for "extra houses".
 

Vbeacher

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Hmm. . . now I'm confused. Are you opposed to capitalism?

Are you unable to read? I explained how Capitalism is supposed to work in terms of shortages of workers, how it should work, if government would leave it the hell alone. Does that not pretty much say I'm a Capitalist? But believing in Capitalism doesn't mean I look at it naively. Capitalism does some things really well, like allocating resources, which is what we're talking about here. It's also heartless, which is why it needs rules and regulations on its behaviour.

But frustrating Capitalism's ability to allocate resources in this manner means lower skilled Canadians get screwed. It benefits business, but at the expense of people. I will always side with people over business. Where I side with business it's because I believe that the existence of the business and its success helps more people than it hurts.

This is the arguments racist use


Logic? Since when do racists use logic? Racists use logic almost as infrequently as brainless progressive simpletons who need to take their socks off to count past ten.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Are you unable to read?
Yes, I can. Are you unable to answer a simple question? Apparently so.

I explained how Capitalism is supposed to work in terms of shortages of workers, how it should work, if government would leave it the hell alone. Does that not pretty much say I'm a Capitalist?
Um. . . no. Being able to describe capitalism doesn't mean you believe in it.

How does government regulating immigration constitute "leaving it alone?"

But believing in Capitalism doesn't mean I look at it naively. Capitalism does some things really well, like allocating resources, which is what we're talking about here. It's also heartless, which is why it needs rules and regulations on its behaviour.
Some folk'd call your proposed ban on immigration heartless.


But frustrating Capitalism's ability to allocate resources in this manner means lower skilled Canadians get screwed. It benefits business, but at the expense of people. I will always side with people over business. Where I side with business it's because I believe that the existence of the business and its success helps more people than it hurts.
By "people," I take it you mean Canadians?
 

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By the way, Vbeacher, I don't really care what Canada does about immigrants. If y'all curl up into a ball and ignore the world outside for the next hundred years, I doubt anybody'd notice. I was just challenging some of your assertions. You defended 'em pretty well.
 

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More taxpayers is such a great thing.

They should also include the taxes remitted by the folks who build the extra houses for the immigrants to live in...you get the point....well, you probably don't, being stupid and all.

Yeah, there probably won't be any increase in housing. My bad. They'll all live under bridges

Bridges build themselves

I'm saying that if you're growing your population you need more housing. Even maintaining your population requires housing due to replacing older houses. It really isn't a difficult concept, even for the simpletons here

This is the arguments racist use

Are you really stupid enough to think vacancy rates have to be zero before more housing is required or desired? Really?




I mean really?

Extreme? Funny coming from a guy that says occupancy has doubled

 

Vbeacher

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Yes, I can. Are you unable to answer a simple question?

I just did.

How does government regulating immigration constitute "leaving it alone?"

If government is bringing in cheaper foreign workers to thwart an alleged worker shortage then it is frustrating Capitalism. Capitalism knows how to take care of worker shortages, as I've already stated. Nor is there a shortage of workers, as several studies I've just posted have attested.

Some folk'd call your proposed ban on immigration heartless.

First, I did not suggest a ban on immigration. Second, this idea reflects the progressive belief that our immigration system is some kind of world social welfare program. It is not. The only purpose of our immigration system out to be to bring in what workers we need, presuming we need them, to our benefit.

By "people," I take it you mean Canadians?

I put the interest of Canadians first. Apparently Liberals do not.

By the way, Vbeacher, I don't really care what Canada does about immigrants. If y'all curl up into a ball and ignore the world outside for the next hundred years, I doubt anybody'd notice. I was just challenging some of your assertions. You defended 'em pretty well.

Thank you. I apologize if I seemed a might snippy, but dealing with dedicated morons like Cannuck requires a certain attitude.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Thank you. I apologize if I seemed a might snippy, but dealing with dedicated morons like Cannuck requires a certain attitude.
Not at all. I like my arguments with some hot sauce. You are one of the few with the skill to make it spicy without turning into a poo-flinging match.
 

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333K per year sounds about right. We historically fall far short of these immigration goals.
Bullshit. We have reached the 1% threshold. It's economic disaster time now.
It's not about total numbers, it's about percentage of population.
If we look at the US, the regularly accept more immigrants than Canada. But even adding in refugees their total intake is still only about 0.06% of their population.
This new number for Canada will put us over the 1% threshold. That number is something that both economists and immigration experts have called untenable.


This will also likely and thankfully kill the Liberal party next election. Polls have been pretty consistent throughout the years showing that changing immigration numbers is a bad idea for whoever is in charge. Approximately 50% of Canadians are satisfied with the current level of immigration. About 25% would like to see the numbers increased while 25% would like to see the numbers lowered.
Making any significant change in intake is likely to piss off about 3/4 of the electorate no matter what direction you go.

You say that like it's a bad thing.


Wait. . . you used facts and reasoning with mentalfloss? You've heard the definition of "insanity," right?
Yeah, I may seem silly trying, but one of these days I figure something will finally ignite the pilot light in his brain.
 

petros

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If importing people with viable skills and good credit ratings and there is no outlay of human capital investment in these people it's all win.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Well, except for the Canadians who would have filled those high-skill jobs if you hadn't blocked them by filling 'em up with furriners.
 

petros

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At least they killed the buy your way in at the Fed level but Quebec still takes cash for immigration but they call it a loan.

Well, except for the Canadians who would have filled those high-skill jobs if you hadn't blocked them by filling 'em up with furriners.

Canadians that become RNs bugger off to the US so we rely on Filipinos for RNs.