How much effort is going into identifying and arresting prolific murderer(s)?

spilledthebeer

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Are you kidding me? There is NO effort going into Cdn legal system! Its why seven accused killers were released this summer by LIE-beral hug a thug judges because LIE-berals did not have the resources to give them a trial in good time! LIE-berals NEED ALL the gravy to buy civil service Hog votes so they can cling to power at ANY price!

Are you kidding me? There is NO effort going into Cdn legal system! Its why seven accused killers were released this summer by LIE-beral hug a thug judges because LIE-berals did not have the resources to give them a trial in good time! LIE-berals NEED ALL the gravy to buy civil service Hog votes so they can cling to power at ANY price!

Consider this:
I put this post up a while back but its worth repeating because it PROVES that Lie-beral philosophy and policy have completely lost touch with reason, reality and logic- which is why LIE-berals CLAIM crime numbers are down!

So, lets talk about Crime and Bullshit! Figures don’t lie but liars figure. Crime statistics are down in this country because crime is evolving and it simply LOOKS like crime is reduced. During his last term in office prime minister Pierre Trudeau and his LIE-beral hug a thug friends CHANGED how crime statistics were compiled-at the time Conservatives complained that the change would make it harder to compare crime statistics from different decades-an obvious point now proven.

LIe-berals will deny this in every way. They will INSIST that “no fundamental changes have been made to the system” and of course we recognize the weasel words “:no fundamental changes”.....meaning THEY don’t think its important but anybody who has been robbed or victimized in some way and then watched as LIE-beral appointed `hug a thug` judges give out minor slaps on the criminal wrist DOES think it’s a BIG DEAL!

If you argue these points, LIE-berals will send you links to out of date and irrelevant Stats/Canada publications to `prove` their point using papers and publications that don’t address the issues. They will also try to distract by discussing the Young Offenders Act rather than looking at the issues involving adult career criminals which is what I am trying to illustrate here. LIE-berals have already made it virtually impossible to learn anything useful about Youth crime and now they are doing the same “hide it all for the good of the party” job with adult crime numbers. In short, they will prove once again why we call them LIE-berals!

Under the old system there was one crime if you `possessed` burglar tools and planned to break into a home while the family was away some place, A second crime if you actually broke into the house, A third crime (theft over $5000.00) occurred when you found the keys to a vehicle in the garage and decided to load it up with the stuff you stole from the house and use it as a getaway vehicle. A fourth crime occurred when you found a gun cabinet and broke it open and took possession of and loaded a shotgun for which you have no license. The family comes home unexpectedly and you take them hostage using your stolen shotgun and that’s the fifth and six crimes-kidnaping and misuse of a firearm. A neighbour sees you waving the gun and phones the cops who arrive on the scene and you fire the shotgun out a window a couple of times to keep them back while you consider your options and thus produce crime seven ( assault with a deadly weapon) and crime eight which is resisting arrest. Prior to Trudeau each of these crimes would be listed separately and would be relatively easy to track in appropriate categories-firearm offenses, burglary, theft etc. But now these eight crimes are lumped together as ONE CRIME SCENE and its now MUCH HARDER to track individual crimes since they are no longer listed in such an easy to access and read fashion.

Further, as of 20 years ago about 80% of criminals had their cases `plea bargained` and now we can only guess (since Lie-berals don’t like to talk about this stuff and hide the details where possible and they certainly don’t want to admit that they are practicing `catch and release` with dangerous criminals) that today virtually ALL criminals cut endless deals during which major crimes become minor crimes and minor crimes become small misdemeanors or are easily forgotten entirely....except by the victims. Why bother trying the guy for possession of stolen property when you already have him for stabbing somebody? Crimes are `lost`, forgotten, dismissed, not needed, just plain GONE so the statistics are now useless for getting a real view of crime in Canada.

Further, the evolution of technology is encouraging crime itself to evolve. Why bother getting a gun and a stolen getaway car and robbing a store when you can get a bunch of forged credit cards from your neighbours in organized crime and go on a spending spree with no consequences to speak of? Why bother getting out of your comfortable arm chair and going out into the dark and cold to vandalize the house of a neighbour you don’t like when its so much easier just to lounge in your pajamas in front of a computer screen and send the jerk a virus? And maybe hack his credit cards and online banking information as well? As we know, cops don’t even bother looking for those who spread viruses and hackers are mostly ignored as well....UNLESS there is a really HUGE internet disruption.

The computer is good for all sorts of things like selling stuff online that you have stolen or forged-no need to show yourself and your ID to a pawn shop owner or to a `fence` who may turn fink on you if the cops get to him. Much better to meet the suckers at a coffee shop or at a friends place and later (if there is any trouble) the friend covers for you and denies any involvement since the sucker never saw the friend when the purchase was made and the person who sold the fraud item doesn’t live at the address where it was sold-it’s a double blind cutout.

There is also the political action of thugs and gang members. Thugs have figured out that there is safety in numbers-each gang banger and his girlfriend and mother providing an alibi for the others which makes conviction much harder due to less evidence and the few potential witnesses available to speak having been intimidated by strangers-read other gang members.

Even worse- parents and elder care givers are often dependent on the “income” the gang kid supplies- either from criminal activities or from welfare payments. If one or two family members go to jail it may result in the elders getting evicted to smaller or cheaper quarters- MTHC frowns on one old person living in a 3 bedroom affordable apartment that they cannot pay for- even if the other gangsters will be coming home eventually! So elders are put in an awkward position of feeling compelled to LIE to authorities about criminal activities in exchange for fiscal support!

The thugs also are putting pressure on loonie leftist Lie-beral politicians to rein in `racist` cops and end their alleged brutality. A while back the Lie-beral loving Toronto (Red) Star did an article on how much crime has dropped in 2014 and how quiet it has become in Youth Court rooms across Toronto......the article being presented as if meant cops had somehow decided to stop picking on poor innocent kids.......buried in the article was an admission that in response to `public`(read Black Lives Matter) pressure, cops had drastically cut back on their use of `carding`....that is....stopping and questioning known gang members and their friends who were trespassing and such.....No Contact EQUALS No Problem! No more guns and knives being confiscated, no more stashes of drugs found, no more stolen property found in cars, no more ability to track gang members as they move about the city conducting their `business`! Get the cops to stop looking for crime and the crime `statistics` start to look pretty good!

If you start talking tough on crime then certain ethnic voters scream `white racist` at you....while ignoring the Russian mobster in King City with the fine mansion and the high end BMW with all the frills....and the stash of 800 forged credit cards and the computer with enough stolen personal information to make 4000 MORE cards....which he is selling to gang members and the dork is out on parole for PREVIOUS credit card fraud. And NOBODY is counting the bribery, intimidation and outright extortion needed to get such personal information!

Or the Portuguese guy who was late for his court date to deal with his TENTH arrest for causing an auto smash up while driving drunk-this count does NOT include the MANY other times he was arrested before he hit anything.

Or the guy who extorted 30 MILLION DOLLARS here in Ontari-owe a year back and the McWynnty government cut him a deal: he KEEPS ALL the money and promises to leave Ontari-owe forever and the charge will be dropped....Ontari-owe is so BROKE they don’t have the court and legal resources to deal with such a clever swindler within a sensible time frame!

Or perhaps we should speak of the SEVEN accused murderers recently released from jail this spring of 2017 WITHOUT the bother of a trial! Yes- LIE-berals do not even have the money available to properly prosecute FIRST DEGREE murderers here in Ontari-owe and must release them or see their “rights” violated by not getting a trial in a fair and reasonable time! But LIE-berals DO have LOTS of money ofr teachers- plenty of cash to pay for millions of dollars worth of beer and pizza and comfy hotel rooms for teacher union reps while LIE-berals PRETEND to bargain hard in contract “talks” with their teacher allies! And we all know that a LIE-beral could not get elected to pick up dog crap in the park without the PURCHASED support of civil service union Hogs!

Only a Lie-beral would consider any of this a victory!
 

spilledthebeer

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These were overdoses. Where is the murder? If there was any crime it would be suicide.

Cops and health care system are overloaded. Cops are spending HUGE amounts of time chasing Muslim terrorists instead of dealing with drug dealers!

Consider that the more money spent on stupid LIE-beral stuff that most Cdnms oppose- the LESS money is available for your local issues!

Here is an article illustrating just how screwed up is LIE-beral policy on immigration and national security issues- things which are becoming an ever increasing worry to Cdns as illegal aliens flood across our borders without so much as a minimal security clearance and settle in LIE-beral-ville tent camps that are slightly better in quality than the infamous Hoovervilles of the 1930`s!

And the rapidly rising tide of Muslim terror is also an increasing concern- especially after the Edmonton mess-with the attacker ACTUALLY having the arrogance to ATTACK the people he is seeking charity and landed immigrant status from! Just how grossly ENTITLED have LIE-berals trained these people to think they are? With some comments of my own in brackets):

Contagion apples from the Khadr tree must be kept apart

BY MARK BONOKOSKI, POSTMEDIA NETWORK
FIRST POSTED: MONDAY, AUGUST 28, 2017 04:47 PM EDT | UPDATED: MONDAY, AUGUST 28, 2017 06:43 PM EDT

Omar Khadr wants unsupervised visits with his sister Zaynab Khadr. Knowing who and what she is, it is impossible to look into the eyes of Zaynab Khadr and not see the contempt for us staring back.

Those dark, dull eyes, seen through the slit in her black niqab in various media photographs taken over the years, are the only windows into her jihadist-promoting soullessness. But the hardness is evident.

Despite Zaynab Khadr being Omar Khadr’s oldest sibling, he cannot be allowed to see her alone. She is too dangerous a contagion.

(I have stated before that radical Islam is a political disease that should be quarantined! Let swine like Zaynab believe anything she wishes- but let her do it SEPARATE from us!)

On Thursday, Canada’s celebrity boy terrorist, now a 30-year-old multi-millionaire courtesy of the Trudeau Liberals, will appear before an Edmonton court to have his bail conditions substantially eased.

He wants unrestricted access to his extremist Ottawa-born sister, despite her well-documented hatred of all western values except, perhaps, Canada’s place as a safe haven, its social welfare programs and its universal health-care system.

(The Khadr clan would not be here at all if it were not for LIE-beral Jean Chretien who suffered some sort of brain cramp and INVITED the father of Omar to immigrate here- from an Italian jail where he had ended up convicted of making bombs for Jihadists!)

(And LIE-berals insist that we cannot deport the wretched Khadr clan because they are first and last Canadians- so LIE-berals insist- in spite of their terrorist activities! The youngest Khadr son was badly crippled while fighting Yankee forces in Afghanistan and he was then airlifted back `home` to Canada and requires regular and sophisticated medical attention that is not available in Afghanistan and which the family cannot pay for anyway as they have devoted their lives to making bombs in support of Jihad and thus have NO marketable job skills! They are life long parasites on Cdn economy courtesy of LIE-beral madness! At least Moma Khadr has stopped venting her venom onto the Cdn public apparently due to rising outrage among Cdns- I guess she figures that if she spews enough crap the govt might be forced to deal with her in some sensible fashion- like throwing her out! Khadr HATE of all things western is a corrosive force! At least Omar will not be getting more welfare now that he has that 10 million dollars courtesy of Our idiot Boy!)

He wants more freedom to move about Canada, the country he left with his al-Qaida father as a boy in order to help make the improvised bombs in Afghanistan that would be used as roadside death traps against Canadian, American and allied soldiers.

We all know how he ended up imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay because there is no question that he pleaded guilty to throwing a grenade in a shootout with American forces in Afghanistan that killed a U.S. soldier and partially blinded another- though he later recanted saying his confession had been forced.

Revisionists can change what they want.

(And Khadr getting caught red handed in the middle of a battlefield- and riddled with bullets by the people he was fighting against is a telling piece of evidence!)

And, lastly, Omar Khadr wants unrestricted access to the Internet where, despite its vastness, the brutality and barbarity of al-Qaida, the Taliban and ISIS are just an e-mail click away.

He should be granted none of these liberties.

One would need a GPS to track the movements of the much-married Zaynab Khadr, but she was so popular in terrorist circles that Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri attended her first wedding to a Yemeni gunman named Yacoub al-Bahr. But suffice, she is rarely found in countries where terrorism is a foreign commodity. She was detained briefly in Turkey a year ago because of an expired visa, recently had a fourth child in Egypt, and is today reportedly living in Sudan with her fourth husband after a brief sojourn in Malaysia.

(One has to wonder what happened to the 3 previous hubbies? Are they all martyrs for the Muslim cause? With Zayban happily taking them to bed and giving them a taste of Paradise as promised by Muhammed? Those promised 72 virgins are great advertising? Zaynab is hardly a virgin but no doubt- with FOUR husbands under her belt- she knows the way to a mans heart!)

It is her plan, according to court documents obtained by the Canadian Press, to return to Canada in the near future.

She cannot be stopped, of course. Like her brother, Omar, she is Canadian born.

(I am going to suggest that although LIE-berals WISH to PRETEND she can legally return if she wishes- without opposition- a different and more sensible govt COULD invoke various legal statutes related to being a traitor so as to either block her entirely or else make her life here so miserable with jail time and various house arrest restrictions that she chooses voluntarily to leave us! All it takes is a legal mind willing to admit she is a terrorist and a sponsor of terrorists and British Law allows for us to treat people who are operating in the servise of a foreign power to be treated as spies and as `semi citizens` with greatly reduced civil rights! And serving Isis and al Qaida or Taliban certainly qualifies as serving a very foreign power! And with all the travelling she is doing one has to ask: “where in hell is she getting her cash”?)

When Zaynab Khadr returned to Canada from Pakistan in 2005, her brother was already in Guantanamo and her father had already been killed in a 2003 firefight with authorities along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.

When she touched down in Toronto, she was met by RCMP with a warrant to search her luggage. They discovered had a laptop filled with al-Qaida videos, information about weaponry, and songs when translated had titles such as I Am A Terrorist, and Strike and Kill The Infidels.

(Only a LIE-beral would shrug off such garbage! And oh how foolish and impotent we must look to her now that brother Omar has that 10 million award? One has to ask if the already publicly expressed Khadr contempt for Canada can get any deeper?)

Another brother, Abdullah, also an unpleasant piece of work, said the laptop was his but, in a separate set of luggage sent by Zaynab Khadr from Pakistan to Toronto, customs official found more propaganda, as well as a terrorist training manual.

(They tell us bare faced lies and expect us to swallow their crap! And why not? LIE-berals gobble it up!)

These are the apples that fall from the Khadr tree. It is the job of the courts to protect Canadians, as well as to set bail conditions on the convicted that steer them away from potential trouble.

(Too bad our courts are more oriented to serving LIE-beral needs- to BUY immigrant and Muslim votes and to hell with Cdn needs or common sense!)

If not for his family tree, and the fruit it has borne, Omar Khadr might have an argument for his bail conditions to be eased. But it is what it is, and he must live with its consequences.

He is no poster-boy candidate for premature mercies!

markbonokoski at gmail

(AND ALL of this poison is courtesy of LIE-beral LOON Jean Chretien! No kind LIE-beral deed ever goes unpunished and just look what Chretien and his Khadr kindness have wrought for us! Our idiot Chretien could have saved tax payers MILLIONS of dollars in court costs, welfare, medical bills and security screening if he had simply left Papa Khadr- the BOMB MAKING RADICAL ROTTING where he deserved in that Italian jail!)sider how much mess LIE-bera;ls are making of national security:
 

Mowich

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I wish some intrepid reporter would dig into the numbers of people who have been revived more than once as I am sure there are more than a few. On one episode of Emergency Room, one person had just been revived for the 3rd time - that day. Twice on the street and once in the ER. My point being when is enough.......enough. If these poor souls want to do themselves in, who are we to deny them? Is it really kindness and caring to bring them back only to send them right out to do it all over again?

My compassion lies mainly with the emergency workers, nurses and doctors who have to deal with this day in and day out.
 

MHz

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Simple solution, one revival and then just let them remain dead if it happens again. It isn't like the person changes his lifestyle over it.
 

DaSleeper

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The pushers would be the criminals. Good luck in laying any charges against the CIA as they have been the ones in charge since the early '60's..
Another conspiracy......
Quit sniffing crazy glue..........

Simple solution, one revival and then just let them remain dead if it happens again. It isn't like the person changes his lifestyle over it.

And take your damn pills
 

JLM

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Simple solution, one revival and then just let them remain dead if it happens again. It isn't like the person changes his lifestyle over it.


Great solution but would you just stand by when it happens to your child, wife, girl friend?
 

Hoid

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Heard about a phone app a grade school class in Washington DC is creating that will provide an alternate number to 911 for people who will not call 911. It will also collate and broadcast these ODs and try to warn users in time to tip them off. Its an interesting app and sounds actually useful.

But this is just the beginning of the crisis. This drug is going to hurt Canada that way crack hurt America.
 

JLM

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JLM doesn't believe in personal responsibility. He's a socialist.


And how did you arrive at that stupid conclusion?

And Cannucklehead is great at categorizing everybody else. :) :)

I wish some intrepid reporter would dig into the numbers of people who have been revived more than once as I am sure there are more than a few. On one episode of Emergency Room, one person had just been revived for the 3rd time - that day. Twice on the street and once in the ER. My point being when is enough.......enough. If these poor souls want to do themselves in, who are we to deny them? Is it really kindness and caring to bring them back only to send them right out to do it all over again?

My compassion lies mainly with the emergency workers, nurses and doctors who have to deal with this day in and day out.


Sure glad you showed up here today, Mowich, lovely change from the deluge of drivel that's been happening here today!:) Beautiful day here so I did manage to escape and get some yard work done before the snow flies. I guess it's time you got your hatches battened down. You're bang on the money as far as the drug scene goes. In the end you save very few people from their own stupidity!